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0:00 Okay, today I have an incredible guest. Um, we're going to be going through Make America Healthy Again. We're going to be talking about what has changed in Donald Trump. Can RFK Jr. really make America healthy again? I know we've got to play a part in that. Also, we're coming up on the 25th anniversary of one of the biggest medical coverups in American history, maybe even world history, and I have a special guest to go through that. Now, this topic is the type of topic that can get a YouTube channel in trouble, and I want to bring you guys the truth. So, to help me overcome any censorship, I'm asking you to please give this video a like and share it with friends. Let me now introduce you to my special guest, Mary Holland. Mary, thank

0:46 you so much for joining me. Thanks for having me. So, let me give my audience some background on you and and why I wanted to speak with you. So Mary Holland is a brilliant lawyer. She is a leading voice in health freedom. Uh she resonates with me because uh she has a similar vision to RFK Jr. and President Trump when it comes to protecting children, getting the truth out about medicine. She is the CEO of the Children's Health Defense where she fiercely advocates for vaccine choice, autism awareness, and medical uh fragility when it comes to children and government overreach. Um let me let me ask this first question. This has really been on my mind. Is there collusion

1:34 between the CDC, the WHO, big pharma, FDA to bury medical malpractice? And is there collusion to making and keeping us sick? Well, there's definitely collusion. I I wouldn't say that there's necessarily collusion for malpractice, but there's collusion to keep us sick. Um I think it'd be hard to see otherwise. We have a sick care system. 90% of the money that we spend on health care goes towards chronic health conditions. Most of these conditions didn't exist 50 years ago or the percentage of people that had them was marginal. Today, over 50 way over 50% of children have either a chronic at

2:20 least one chronic health condition, including obesity or being overweight. So, we're we're not a healthy population as as Robert Kennedy often says, you know, we have the sickest kids in the world. We have the sickest population in the world and we spend the most by far on our healthcare. Yeah. You you would think there would be a correlation, right? Like, okay, we we we spend all this money, therefore we are the healthiest in the world. But the reality is we're very sick and we spend too much money. Um you're you're a lawyer, so when I said uh medical malpractice, let me let me uh couch that question a little bit different. For example, um I believe that Fizer, Merna, they knew that they shouldn't be giving these shots to pregnant women, uh to children.

3:08 They knew for a fact that this was co causing heart issues specifically within within men. And yet, because they're driven by profit or to protect their reputation, they continue pumping out something that they know. That's that's what I meant by that. And you're 100% right on that. So vaccines unlike any other product in the world have extraordinary liability protection. So literally for the COVID shots which were called emergency use authorization. You cannot sue the government. You cannot sue the manufacturer. You cannot sue the governor the the doctors. You can't s sue the government planners. So, uh, vaccines are in this very, very unique category where they have just incredible

3:54 protection or immunity. They're supposed to be inducing immunity in people, which often doesn't work, but they have really the highest level of legal immunity that you can see anywhere. Okay. I I saw a cartoon that kind of summed this up best. It was a a mother yelling at big pharma saying, "Hey, you promised me this would give us immunity and big pharma says only we get immunity when it comes to vaccines, right?" Do you do you think that Ronald Reagan was tricked when he gave big pharma this or do you think they just didn't know enough? Or do you think it came from a good place but then they said, "Wait a minute, there is hundreds of billions of dollars and we can just pump these out. We're we're protected." How did this come

4:41 about? Well, so as you mentioned, we on Friday of last week just did a 9hour oral history of Simpson. And one of the people who's really critical to Simpson being a conference in 2000 where big pharma and government agencies in supposed health, they colluded in a nonp private meeting to say we're going to cover up the knowledge that we have that the mercury and vaccines is causing severe neurological damage. But in the in the nine hours that is on our website children'salthdefense.org or under CHDTV. There's an interview with Barbara Lo Fiser who was one of the leading

5:26 parents back in the 70s and the 80s who fashioned this 1986 national childhood vaccine injury law. She was representing the parents and she was negotiating with health and human services and with big pharma and they did achieve many things but when you really listen to what happened in those negotiations it's pretty easy to see that pharma and the government knew from the beginning that this was going to be harmful and what they really cared about was the bottom line and that they would not be legally responsible when people were injured. And then they went to extraordinary lengths, as this documentary basically shows, to whittle down the compensation, to manipulate so that more vaccines

6:12 could be given, to ensure that the truth was censored. And it's been an extraordinary 25 years. It's it's a really really um important record of key people in this legacy of the last 25 years and before. Okay. I want I want to go deeper on that. Uh, I remember reading uh a snarky article about uh vaccines and mercury and they were basically saying there's only two places on planet Earth where mercury is safe. It's not safe in your thermometer. It's not safe in your hand. It's not safe in your home. It's not safe in your blankets. It's not safe here, here, here, here. The only place that it's safe is injected into your arm or in one of your teeth. and and the dental uh industry, they have uh just

6:59 quietly stopped using amalgam and and mercury and and gone to these resins and epoxies and things. Um so so they'll never admit that. Um but um I I just find it very interesting that uh this this coverup happened. So let me go a little deeper on this uh Simpson thing because we're coming up on the 25th anniversary. So this was a a secret meeting between big pharma and government that the public was not made aware of but somebody got the transcripts of it. Right. So what happened in 1979 is um I'm sorry in 1997 is that the FDA there was a Congress passed a law called the FDA modernization act and they required um the pharmaceutical

7:44 industry to tell the congress everywhere there was mercury in the products and to basically the idea would be to phase them out. And so suddenly the world, the FDA, the CDC became aware that there were really huge levels of mercury in the vaccines that they were giving. Somehow they had been fairly oblivious uh because they had liability protection. They hadn't made the connection. But for instance, the first speaker is Lynn Redwood, the first president of Children's Health Defense. She was also an absolute leader in this who's pointing out that her son had 125 times the limit of mercury that he should have had according to EPA levels

8:29 uh when he was 5 years old and he had been diagnosed with autism uh and he had regressed from having been a healthy child. So it was that modernization act that led to this recognition and then the CDC did convene this meeting of oh my gosh we have done the studies to look at the children who got this birth dose of a hepatitis B vaccine that contains thyarisol the mercury containing preservative and children that didn't get that shot and we see vast differences in children who are later diagnosed with autism with ticks with Tourettes with seizures with all kinds kinds of um learning disabilities. And this meeting at Simpsonwood was really how do we how do we bury this? Um how do

9:15 we make sure that plaintiffs lawyers don't find out about this? How do we make sure that the press doesn't find out about this? How do we manipulate the data so that the signal isn't so strong? How do we just move along and not lose trust in medicine and literally not change anything? Stephen, they were not about protecting children. They were all about protecting themselves. Wow, that's sad. Uh, it is, you know, I I do I do a political show seven days a week. Um, it's very taxing on my body and my mental health. And um, a lot of people say, "Oh, you you must just love talking about the government and politics." And I'm like, "No, I hate it. I hate it. That's why I

10:01 do my show because government in most cases government is the problem. They're they're not they're not big brother that has your back. They're big brother that's spying on you that's that's colluding. Um it that's it's just sad um that these cover-ups exist. You know, like most people don't realize that scientists at Harvard were bought off to say that sugar was making people sick and then sugar got all these government subsidies and all of the sudden fat got this bad reputation. Low fat, switch from butter to margarine, only drink skim milk. I remember growing up and all my parents' friends and my my friends parents, they all drank skim milk and my parents always just stuck with 2% or

10:47 whole milk. We always drink whole milk, right? But then I see this Harvard study and I go, "Wait a minute. These are supposed to be the best of the best scientists lying to the American public." I think, you know, when you've studied enough of these coverups and and some of the bad things that government do, you come away with this appreciation that it's not that hard to buy people off. I mean, that's the sad reality is that um people find they have prices and they're willing to lie and um the people so not everybody, as Lynn Redwood points out in this documentary about Simpson, you know, there were people that weren't invited to that convening because they did want to stop those shots right away. There were people who expressed real

11:34 grave concerns about what was happening and they weren't invited to come back the next day. I mean this was a this was a group of very uh industryoriented industry friendly people who basically called these shots so to speak. Um but but the tragedy the tragedy Stephen is that you know they knew what was happening. That's very clear. And the autism rates in you know 1985 uh were one in a thousand. We're now at one in 31 children. It's one in 12 and a half boys in California. This cover up has come at an enormous human cost and a huge monetary cost too. Of course, pharma happens to be the beneficiary of that cost, right? So, a lot of the

12:20 people with autism diagnoses are put on uh pharmaceutical drugs, which for the most part aren't particularly helpful, but they're very common and they're very expensive. Um you you just uh provoked a thought in me, Mary. Okay. So earlier I said we we pay the most for health care and we're the most sick. Like you would you would think that that would be a different relationship. Why if California is the the most heavy-handed with vaccines and uh I mean you can't buy a lawnmower without it saying it could give you cancer. You can't buy a dishwasher without it saying it could give you Why on earth are so many boys in California becoming autistic? It's the most regulated state and it's the one pumping

13:06 out the most autistic children. Um, you know, you're assuming that there's logic at play here. Uh, there's not. Uh, California is very bizarre. I fought just right now I've been helping to fight against the repeal of the religious exemption in Massachusetts. California was really the first and in 2015 the California legislature removed the personal belief exemption that incorporated a religious exemption to vaccines and uh that basically sent tens of thousands of parents that were unwilling to vaccinate their children according to the state schedule around the country. Uh, California is strange that way. You're absolutely right. They have in some ways better warning labels

13:52 than than other states and in some ways seem much more hyperreulated. And part of the ethos is um you don't get to decide. This is public health. We know what's best. We're the government. And the reality is the rates of autism, the rates of um special education and facilities for the adult population and even the younger population that can't live independently is is off the charts in California. And sadly, there's a lot of corruption there, too. Yeah. Um, I remember um during during the COVID lockdowns, uh, we we were seeing, um, people like Jean Simmons from KISS saying, you know, if you don't get vaccinated, you should you should die.

14:39 Um, we we saw uh, late night host shows saying, you you should be blocked from getting care at a hospital. Uh, Arnold Schwarzenegger, screw your freedoms. It's like all all of a sudden they wanted the government to be in charge of our our medicine uh our bodies, right? So, um it was it was just the hypocrisy was really interesting uh to watch. Uh let me ask you this. Um, I don't I don't know that this has anything to do with, you know, Trump being shot in the ear or or all that he has been through, but I noticed from covering term number one to term number two, he seems much more interested in

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16:59 888908-4425 for up to 50% off plus free shipping. Um well, Bobby Kennedy has talked a lot about this that um after that very serious assassination attempt um he having lived through the assassination of his uncle and his father, he reached out to Donald Trump immediately to just give his support and love for, you know, this horrendous thing that had just happened to him. And apparently that connection really blossomed and they connected in a way that they hadn't. And I can well imagine that for Donald Trump as a human being coming that close to being killed, um it probably did make him reflect even more

17:44 about what do I want to achieve in this second term? What will be my legacy? And I think Bobby Kennedy had really given the last 20 years of his life at Children's Health Defense where he's the founder and in other ways of of telling the truth and and leaving a better world for children whether that was in the environment or whether that was health. And so I think Donald Trump was eager to have Bobby Kennedy leave his presidential race and join him in his effort to become president. And I think that negotiation was clearly in part about um children. And I have to say that Donald Trump even before he ran for president for the first term, he on his Twitter account was talking about autism

18:31 and he was saying quite explicitly, you know, what is the story with these vaccines? It's so many for these tiny babies and I've seen them regress. So this was clearly something that he cared about. Um, but I think Bobby Kennedy brought it to fruition and and Bobby Kennedy did have many millions of voters who were supporting him. This maha movement, make America Healthy Again, I think was pivotal and and President Trump has acknowledged that that the votes that Bobby Kennedy brought to his ticket uh were pivotal in this past 2024 election. Okay. Yeah. I wondered uh I mean I I read all these stories about uh Trump secretly paying people's medical

19:17 bills, being very concerned. I mean at the the State of the Union, he brought that little boy that had had like 13 brain tumors removed. So I I I believe that it's always had a place in his heart. He's he's a grandpa, you know, he's got all these grandkids now since 2016. And uh but I do think Bobby probably played a role in saying, "Hey, listen. you've maybe never heard this because you've been busy building buildings and golf courses, but you know, da da da da da. And he goes, "Oh, wait a minute. This is actually very very eye opening." I know that's how it was for uh my wife and I when we realized, "Oh, wait a minute. Uh our health has to be our health." Like, we've got to take control of our own health, our own future. We've got to advocate for our children. Um I I love

20:04 most doctors. Um, I'm not here to bash on doctors, but they go through 10, 12, 15 years of of textbook training and then, you know, they're saddled with all of this debt and then these hospital systems and insurance and at the end of the day they're like, "Listen, I got 15 minutes to talk to you and try to diagnose." So, my heart goes out uh to the medical. When it comes to parents, Mary, are are most parents maybe too trusting that there was all of this good science behind vaccines that they were going through the same rigorous, arduous, difficult testing? I mean, some of these drugs, uh, I don't know, Viagra, uh, I can't say that's the one

20:50 that pops into my mind. uh uh all of these major drugs, they go through years and years, phases of testing, and now we're finding out there there wasn't the same level with vaccines. Are parents just assuming that that has all been done? I think up until very recently, parents did assume that why would the FDA and CDC not be working in my interest, right? The taxpayers pay for them. They're created by Congress. I think and and and in many ways the FDA and CDC have had um good reputations, but when it comes to vaccines, what most people have no idea about is a like I mentioned before, there's no liability for this. If your child is injured, you cannot sue pharma. You cannot sue a

21:37 doctor. You have to go to a compensation program that's basically a kangaroo court. But the other thing is that because vaccines can be used in the context of a pandemic, much like what we just lived through with COVID, there's this idea that they have to be made really quickly and there's not the opportunity to go through those five years of testing and to use this standard, the gold standard double blind placeboc control trials. So for drugs, you're absolutely right. blockbuster drugs, all kinds of blockbuster drugs. They basically go through four to five years of clinical trials, phase one, two, and three. And there have to be real controls. Somebody gets an inert substance. They get saline. They get sugar water. They don't get anything.

22:23 And then there's liability for the pharmaceutical industry. Vaccines have none of those protections, right? They have short clinical trials for hepatitis B for instance is given to children. It was five there was five days of monitoring. The clinical trials before that they didn't even have a control group. Uh it's it's mind-blowing. Of everything that's recommended on the childhood schedule today, none of them had true control groups. None of them had people getting true inert placeos and only inert placeos. So that's one of the things that Robert Kennedy and coming in as HHS secretary has insisted on is that any new vaccines have to have true placeos and he's talking about

23:09 radical transparency gold standard science. Those things mean telling the public what you find good or bad and requiring that it use real controls. Right. Use what is standard in science. You have to be testing one variable. You can't have variables on both sides of the equation. Yeah. Well, I I wish him luck because uh he's up against the largest lobbying groups in America. Uh some of the biggest dollars uh almost 70 to 80% of the mainstream media's income comes from big pharma. Uh so they're not going to badmouth them, you know, like they're going to control what uh information gets out to us. Um we we talked about

23:57 you you just mentioned this, you know, oh maybe a few years ago but not today. But um with that same thinking a few years ago but not today. I think most Americans believe that they were living in a system where it was genuine health care and they just had medical issues, right? And now I think a lot of them are realizing that they're living in a system of sick care that's driven by profits. And I I get that people have to make money, but shouldn't health care and healthy living be the focus? 100%. You know, we would hope that um our government, the people that we pay to protect us would have an investment in seeing us be healthy. We can't have a thriving country. We can't have a thriving economy. We can't have, you

24:44 know, happy long lives without basic health. And as Kennedy has said, you know, these are not mutually exclusive. If you have healthy people, you're going to have a healthier economy. You can have a healthy environment. Like everything is better, you know, if people are healthy. And sadly, we really have a system between the pharmaceuticals, between the food, between some of the pollution in the environment. We really do live in a toxic soup. We really are not um doing all the things that we can. And so I'm very excited to see almost ironically in this second term of President Trump a real emphasis on Make America Healthy Again. And so just a couple weeks ago in Washington, there was the first public convening of this commission, the Make

25:30 America Healthy Again Commission. And um you know, the Secretary of Agriculture was there, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, the head of the FDA, the head of the C that well not the CDC, that hasn't been confirmed yet, but the FDA, National Institutes of Health. Um it's exciting. I I do believe that there's opportunity. I'm not g here to tell you that they've solved it all. Um far from it, Stephen. There there's so much to do and many people are critical. Some of the things that have happened are kind of half measures. But as you point out, they are up against the bureaucracy. They're up against the pharmaceutical industry. They're up against um people who've been entrenched there for a long time. They're up against the media. uh they do get the vast majority of their revenue from advertising from the pharmaceutical industry. Okay. Um I

26:18 don't I don't know if you know this or not, but um you know I I listen to this uh Dr. Casey Means and this uh former lobbyist in Washington DC Casey Means. Uh what what I hear them saying make makes a lot of sense, but a lot of people are very very suspicious of them. They're critical of her path through medicine, his past with lobbyists. What What What do you What do you make of them? Because I know I'm I'm seeing a lot of really mixed messages. Some people are saying, "Hey, they're great. We want these outsiders." Others are saying, "Uh, RFK Jr.'s been hijacked. He's making terrible decision." Like, what what are your thoughts on those two? Uh, my thoughts are that overall they're the people that Robert F.

27:04 Kennedy Jr. wants at his side helping him. And I really have worked with him for 15 years. I trust his judgment. So my perception is that Casey did leave a sort of traditional medical practice because she realized that it was sick care and she started a wellness kind of practice and focused on helping people who have diabetes get off of diabetes drugs and actually handle their metabolism. Calie was a lobbyist. I've spent a fair amount of time listening to him and and being at meetings. And I do think that um he is good at uh persuading people. That's what lobbyists do. And so I think that he is working with people within the government, working with people at the state level to advance the MA agenda. So it's easy

27:51 to criticize from the sidelines, Stephvens. It's a lot harder to get things done, especially to get things done in the divided America that we live in. So, as I say, those are the people that Bobby Kennedy as secretary of HHS wants. I trust his judgment that it's not for me to figure out what's the best way for him to advance his agenda that I completely support. Okay. H my favorite part about judging people, Mary, is it's just so easy. It is. It's very easy to judge, right? Loving loving people is the hard part. Much harder. It's my my wife said to me, this was like 15 years ago. Uh I just want to do something easy tonight. I said, "Oh, should we just go to the mall and judge people?" You know, of course,

28:38 we were joking, but um that that always stuck with me that it's just so easy to judge people. And it's it's sometimes very hard to to love people. Um okay, I appreciate your insight on that because again, I listen to them on Joe Rogan. I listened to them on um the the Concrete podcast. I listened to them on several others and I thought the these they sound like they're making sense. Somebody with an extensive background in diabetes. I mean diabetes is like the most expensive part of Medicaid uh that everybody is worried about. Um it's a rising epidemic. And so to me that makes a lot of sense. But then you have people like um there's this Dr. Jack Cruz that I really like to listen to. He was super pro RFK Jr. in Bitcoin and then RFK gets

29:23 in there and moves slower and next thing he's like deceived all of us. And I I just hate to I don't think people realize like you're going up against the biggest money and lobbyists in the world. Yeah. And I mean his his uncle was assassinated, his father was assassinated. Like I don't think he takes these things lightly. Um at the same time he's very courageous to to step into this position. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. This is a really, frankly, impossible job. And, you know, he has security details for a reason. He's had many attempts against his life and many warnings over the years. He's a very courageous man and he really is doing this because uh he cares about passing on a world to his children and to our

30:11 children that is worthy of them. we're really destroying our children. As as at this meeting, the first meeting of the Maha Commission, so many of the people there said this is just morally wrong that our children are less healthy and will live shorter lives. This is wrong. We can't do this. And there was a sense of moral commitment, a kind of moral indignation that I really think that Secretary Kennedy has helped to encourage and to inculcate. And uh that's what's needed. this is this is not going to be easy, but I do think that he is courageous and he's taken on a really hard job, but I think he's making headway. So, I know some people are very frustrated and very critical.

30:57 Um, I think we have to support everything we can and of course we have to call out what we think is wrong and um I support people to do that too. Yeah. Uh what what do you make of this idea of, you know, New Zealand and the United States of America being the only two countries that allow big pharma to infiltrate the media and and the advertising space uh the the way that they do? If if Bobby is able to remove that, how do you see that changing medicine and and ad spend dollars? Yeah. Um, it is extraordinary that since the 1990s, the US and New Zealand are the only two countries in the world that

31:42 permit direct to consumer prescription pharmaceutical drug advertising. And even in New Zealand, with a population of four million, Stephen, there are way more restrictions than we have here. So, we're advertising vaccines on TV. We're advertising psychiatric drugs. We're, you know, restless leg syndrome. Literally, you watch TV and you realize, you know, this is for somebody with leukemia. There can't be that many people that they're advertising to. And what you then understand is, oh, they're not really advertising. They're just buying control of what this show can put on. Right? So pharma has made sure that people like me and other people who might be critical of the pharmaceutical industry, critical of of of psychiatric

32:30 drugs, critical of opioids, critical of vaccines. We've never gotten airtime because the networks have been controlled. So this was started by President Clinton by executive order. And I must tell you, I am waiting um to see when uh President Trump will will do this. Obviously, he will buy enemies by doing so, but it will be a radical transformation when um the pharmaceutical industry can no longer own mainstream media. But on the other hand, the truth is mainstream media has declined so much over the last 20 years that by the time that if and when that happens, it may be much less of a radical shift than than I just said, actually. Yeah. Well, I I I think

33:18 they're going to start trying to infiltrate little shows, right? I I'm I have two million. I still consider myself a little show compared to Fox News or CNN or something like that. But, uh during the pandemic, Fizer offered me $30,000 to tell people to get the vaccine. $30,000 for 60 seconds of work. That's how much money they knew they could make. Uh I'm I'm no I'm not CNN. And I'm not ABC News. I'm not I'm like one little creator. And then you find out all these people that were smaller than me, they were just hitting them up with big cash deposits on Tik Tok. It was gross to me. The these are these are teeny boppers putting out dance stuff

34:03 that then stop and say, "Hey, I love doing these dances, but you should really get your vaccine." You're not a doctor. You don't know jack squat about what this could do to my body. That was really bothersome to the all the financial incentives. You remember, you know, you got a free hamburger, you got a free, you know, joint, you get a college tuition in the lottery. I mean, the financial incentives worldwide for getting the COVID shots were shocking, horrifying. It is absolutely the antithesis of informed consent. So the Nuremberg code is 75 years old and that was adopted after the medical atrocities became known from Nazi Germany and it's you know no duress, no coercion but also like you have to be competent. There

34:50 should be nothing except you know the risk and the benefit and you the patient make an informed choice. And so everything about COVID really distorted everything about medicine. And I do think that people are awake to that now as they must be because it's not all over yet. It's still, you know, this is a process and I I pray that that things will become more and more open and more and more transparency particularly about what did happen during COVID because I do believe that millions of people died needlessly. Yeah. Yeah. That that informed consent, the ability to do research without pressure. Like right now I'm I'm studying two two medications. Uh one that someone recommended that I want to bring

35:36 information to my doctor. The other one my doctor recommended but I'm like h you know I don't know a lot about this so I want to do that research. None of that was happening during during COVID. It was just all emotions and fear and uh manipulation and it was really gross. What um what about do you do you see uh Bobby Kennedy or Trump doing anything about revoking the liability shield for vaccines so that people either get the information that they need or we get better products like on paper vaccines make a lot of sense but then you start actually reading the papers and you go oh gosh I don't know if this is worth the risk. Yeah. Uh they can't just lift

36:21 the liability shield. Uh Stephen, both of the the major laws, the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act and the 2005 PREP act, the public readiness and emergency preparedness act, those are both passed by Congress. So ultimately, these things are going to require congressional action. But I do believe that Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump by giving the public truthful information can create a kind of popular uh up upsurge that could lead to um major change politically. I mean I think we were already seeing that and I don't think that this process is over. I think as more truth comes out uh and more you know gold standard science, one of the

37:08 things that Bobby Kennedy promised um in the last month or so is by September he will start revealing what does the real science show? What do the records that they have the millions of records from Medicaid and other databases? What does it show about the correlations of autism and anything else? So, I I think that the public is going to move the political actors, but it will not be easy to get rid of those liability shields. And those liability shields are incredibly dangerous as we've seen. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that was my just off the top of my head, there's between the House and and the Senate, 535 individuals who all receive a lot of

37:53 money from big pharma. They receive a lot of money from the military-industrial complex, big oil, climate, like they're being influenced by money and voices all the time. But if if big pharma has the most uh lobbyists of any of the lobbies, you just have to imagine how many of those 535 it would be hard to convince, give up the money to do what's right, which is remove the liability and get us better products or get us the truth. I think that's why I think that's why RFK Jr. understands he has to come at this from an education. Like here's the truth in science and then you can make a decision because there's medicines out there right now that people they go okay uh

38:41 I've got to inject myself with hums but at least they know what they are. Uh, but if you're not getting that information, to me, that seems like you're being lied to or or you're counting on the fact that the patient or the patient's parent doesn't know enough to say yes or no. Exactly. I think Secretary Kennedy is is acutely aware that whatever he does by fiat will simply be reversed if people don't have a rationale for it. I think he recognizes that he has to bring to the truth, bring to public consciousness, you know, new information that they didn't know before so that they will themselves want to change their actions because they have greater

39:28 knowledge. So, I think his job is really bringing us new knowledge and um and he's actively working on that. Okay. my wife, some of her friends, people that I go to dinner with, they they all said to me, "Hey, uh, Bobby Kennedy's not doing much." I thought he was going to come in and immediately revoke immediately revoke the COVID vaccines, right? And I said, "Well, let me tell you what he has done. He's canled hundreds of millions of dollars in in new stuff, hundreds of millions of dollars in flu stuff, new research, new pills, oral stuff." He's also said, "You want to sell this, you guys have to be more upfront about the side effects and the potential downside." I I said, I just his hands

40:15 have to be tied on being able to just re revoke something immediately and they're like, "Oh, well, that makes a lot more sense." You know, so I I just think there's a lot of people out there that think just because he's in the driver's seat, he can control all of these other companies. I don't I just don't think that's true. It it's not true. He doesn't have a magic wand and he has already done more in the first four months I think than the last HHS secretary did in four years in terms of really moving us towards health. As you say, he's cut funding. He's changed uh generally recognized as safe at the FDA. He's just, I think today, terminated some of the people on the vaccine advisory board. He's put in new people with very different perspectives uh as sort of the lead of the agencies. He did

41:01 revoke the COVID shot recommendation for pregnant women and children uh if they are healthy which was a a major shift but I think his sights are to do a lot more but exactly as you say he's got a whole host of people that he has to bring along with him right the bureaucracy the pharmaceutical industry the medical profession the media congress uh is not an easy job oh I I imagine it's not Okay, final question. Um, this has been as informative and delightful as I imagined it would be. Um, over at um, the Children's Health Defense, what what is your guys main focus? Do you individually represent families or is it like class action or

41:47 is it about education or holding the government or big pharma accountable? What exactly do you guys do? So, our mission is to end the epidemic of chronic childhood disease. That is our focus. We want to advance children's health full stop. And we do that through education, advocacy, science, and litigation. So, we put out a daily newsletter, The Defender. It's free. Go to children'shealthdefense.org to sign up. We have a streaming platform, CHDTV. We go live every day at 10 a.m. And then we have special programming. So, if there's a hearing in Congress, we'll run that. We just did this documentary on Simpson. We're publishing peer-reviewed science particularly related to vaccines, but

42:32 also we're very active in the electromagnetic radiation space and also geoengineering. We think these are real concerns and food. So, we're publishing about that. We're working in that space. We have advocacy. So, we do action alerts. We're going to Washington. We're we're quite involved. And litigation. So, we are suing on behalf of children in a variety of capacities. uh where they're deprived of valid medical exemptions, where they're being deprived of valid religious exemptions, censorship of the work we do. We have a case against Meta Platforms, Facebook, that will be conferenced by the Supreme Court in a couple weeks. We have a case on behalf of Dr. Pierre Corey uh who uh has been deprived of medical free speech in the state of California. So, we're trying to advance the ability for people

43:20 to make their own medical choices and particularly for children. And not just medical choices, but choices, informed choices about food, about the water you drink, about what's the role of fluoride, about the air that you breathe. We're we're trying to restore a healthy environment so our kids will be at least as healthy, if not healthier, than we've been. Okay. Well, God bless you guys uh for what you're doing. If people want to see that um that documentary uh about the Simpsonswood secret meeting of collusion, that's on the website as well. Yeah, if you just go to children'shealthdefense.org, you will in the carousel you will see Simpsonwood. Just click on that. That'll take you right to the to the platform and you can

44:05 watch any of the individual conversations. So there's conversation with Andy Wakefield, there's conversation with Barblo Fischer, there's conversations with a lot of really interesting people. You can watch the whole thing or you can just selectively choose some. Okay, great. Well, thank you very much. I'm going to put that direct link down below. Uh Mary Holland, thank you for all that you do and for coming on. I hope you have a great rest of your day. Thank you so much, Stephen.