Watching Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution Kizuna without Nostalgia?

0:00 hello everyone and welcome to new episode of lost and transaction one this time i'll be covering digimon adventure last evolution kizuna and answering the question of what is the experience for this movie for somebody with little to no nostalgia for digimon or digimon adventure so i'll be joined by brady my partner but before we get into covering the movie here's a quick synopsis if you need a refresher for this movie as it did come out a little over a year ago so a mysterious illness starts causing chosen children around the world to fall unconscious as well as having their digimon partner disappeared the chosen children meet manoa who tells them that digimon only have a limited time with their human partners and disappear when the chosen grows up and we also learn that there's a digimon that's called asman who is behind the

0:46 illnesses that's affecting these chosen children titan yumato have to face the fact that they will soon part from their digimon partners when they have to continue to evolve and fight to save the other children because with each evolution in each battle it the time they have with their partner digimon is decreasing with each battle and evolution manoa is revealed to have created eosmond as she forced herself to grow up early and caused her own digimon partner to disappear at the age of 14 when she was able to skip and upgrades to attend university elgimon and government evolve to their final forms bond of courage and bond of friendship respectively and they are able to defeat eosmond but oglemon and government still disappear at the end of the movie titan yamato say that they'll see each other again and taichi decides on his thesis

1:32 topic can digimon and humans co-exist with each other what were your thoughts about this movie as somebody with little to no nostalgia about the digimon franchise and digimon adventure overall it was all right yeah but there were a few moments in this movie that sort of wanted you to feel nostalgic like there are a few references which i will go over later about like visual or auditory references to the digital adventure so what was your experience like as somebody without any of that nostalgia to feel things at those moments no i remember the show as a kid so it's you know i still remember uh and that's how the kids looked when i was watching the kids looking like they were 20 when you were no no in the in the in the scenes when they're not old they're young again yeah that's what i remember so no i still remember but what

2:18 did you like did you feel like any like did you have any connection to the movie like did you enjoy the movie and what were your thoughts about the movie it was all right you know it's i guess it just explores like normal themes of growing up and moving on and getting on with life you know so were there any particular moments that you enjoyed in the movie or anything anything that stood out to you not really i guess um probably though like it was a really overused motive for the butterfly constantly all the time yeah you know they always use the butterfly for everything and it's probably i would probably guess might be heavy-handed but it's you know butterflies are always used as like a rebirth sort of thing short-lived transformation sort of yeah there is that you know but the opening in the japanese version of the first season is called butterfly no there you go so maybe yeah so it's very much a

3:04 theme in a lot of digimon overall about the theme of a butterfly yeah and also morphmon sort of is a butterfly but yeah no you are right there a lot of those butterflies themes and yet everything was butterflash even the crystals like this like they had a butterfly shape yeah everything was fun it was constantly yeah anything else that you picked up on uh probably i don't know it might be a bit heavy-handed for them but the shielding like the the fact that she wanted to protect all the kids and she wanted to protect everyone and shields were a main part of everything that she did which is not something that i've seen in other digimon stuff so shielding was constant he was using a shield as a weapon like there were parts where she created a shield to cut and damage other things so using a shield as a weapon and her wanting to protect everything kind of ties in yeah thematically yeah even

3:52 if it's it may not be intentional but i think it is i didn't really think about how the design of esmond is a shield and also the fact that she's shielding the kids so i didn't actually think of that so that's a very good i think that that is probably on purpose now you brought that up i didn't actually pick up on that but that is a that is a good point and also it makes sense that if she designed the digimon then it would be protective yeah and it's the the goddess of dawn and dawn is another way of that that's another rebirth so you've got the the butterfly which is evolution and rebirth yeah and dawn is also evolution and rebirth of the day so there's a few themes there that have to do with you know the rebirth and what what asmr stands for which is like the shielding of the other kids was there anything

4:37 else you picked up on no not really apart from that it was a pretty i guess predictable movie like i guess yeah yeah i didn't really um see anything else everything else is pretty standard it was kind of boring the dg what are they called evolutions the evolutions boring well you didn't actually get that many anything else normally that's like a huge you know that's normally a big deal in all the movies with lots of music and lots of things the first ones yeah we didn't actually see many of the evolution like animations we saw the two at the start which were exactly like animated exactly how they were in adventure like the first season yeah like in the same style the same poses but they were obviously reanimated so it was nice to see though that's that style and then being in that position instead of just doing completely new evolutions uh animations like they did in try like

5:24 it was like the evolution from greymon to metalgram on is basically scene for seeing the same as the evolution in the first season and that was i really like that that's another one of those uh nostalgic bits where the fact that they used bolero and later on we have the digi egg that appears on manoa's screen appears in the same way that the kuramon egg appears in our war game and there's a few nostalgic scenes there we did watch the digimon movie a little bit ago the one where it's actually three movies combined we've got the first part no never mind yeah yeah the first part has them as little like young kids and then the second part has them as like sort of like the same age as they were in the show and then this the last part has them a little bit older with the zero two kids which was the one who liked the

6:10 ramen in this movie yeah yeah i guess well it was stupid because the whole thing made they said that you you can't if you stop digivolving then you does it reaches a point where you can't do it you don't have any growth anymore or potential and then that's why you lose digimon well that's been yeah and then they made they inferred that she never evolved her digimon it was still a kid or whatever whatever they called a child and that's why you know at 14 you know she was going to college it never did evolve because she never spent time doing that and then it disappeared but then at the end the two guys did the ditch evolve yeah they did they did they did a ditch and then they died anyway yeah because that was done it doesn't make any that doesn't yeah but they they should have that should have extended it because they did they didn't they weren't at the end of it no but they also the every evolution does sort of speed up that

6:56 time as well so it's a few things to take into account when the time is on there yeah but then if digi evolution sped it up then they would have died ages ago as compared to the kids yeah 14 years no you're not you're making sense and i'm gonna call someone and tell them you're gonna call mr digimon right now mr digimon writer the digimon cricket they're silly because they made out like everything was going to be cool and you thought it wasn't and then and then they did die so i guess that was a big yeah it's not such a kid movie because they turn around and it's like what are we gonna do tomorrow and he's dead all right let's move on like like now this movie is not for kids like the other girls well maybe it's for people who grew up watching digimon oh yeah yeah it's definitely watched it but yeah sure do you have any other thoughts about your this movie in general no no

7:43 all right so i'm going to educate you on some things so in so there were two seasons of the of this a universe we had a discussion during uh the movie about the how dif different seasons of digimon have their different universe they don't sort of take place in the same universe except for season one and two and season two continue on from season one with the same children but with a few additional ones which we also saw in the movie and at the end of this season it jumped forward 25 years to the year 2027 which is six years away now and actually told every like it sort of gave them an update about what those kids were doing uh when they were 25 years older so if you put this headphone in i have the clip to show you which is

8:29 from the ending of digimon adventure zero two it's just a headphone you just put it in your eyes no no i will turn the volume down be nice about the animation this was two 000 and that's this is what this 2001 i think maybe 2 000. and he get what is it his child is just a clone is that all of the yeah all of the uh chosen uh their children look exactly like their parents they're just minnie mouse yeah like it's not like save money on anime yeah guess who's kid he is it's really obvious that someone was sleeping around because they gave it like af birth to each other look exactly like exactly like someone else i'll have you notice that they all have their digimon yeah so that ties in with his thesis at the end of the movie why does the truth why does aggro what's his name what oh what he became an astronaut that's why he was with the rocket at the end of the movie

9:15 he doesn't need to breathe he's got a lot of suit i think he doesn't need to breathe sora the character who didn't appear in the movie basically but also her digivice had greyed out so it was kind of implied that her digimon also died i remember that guy yeah joe he was also a doctor no no the other guy ogamon yeah joe mimi's my favorite yeah that's the bug your favorite i'll bet he is oh this part really annoyed me when i was eight because she was really into computers she becomes a full-time mother there's nothing wrong with that yeah i know i was annoyed by that as a kid but i guess uh he became a police officer with a man-eating bug as a sidekick no he's an armadillo that's horrific i i mean sting monster yeah he became a police officer yeah no yeah yeah or you're already becoming a uh an attorney oh yeah dicekay became a noodle card

10:01 that's not that's not that's not right that's why he ate ramen right i'll have you notice the magazine's called time and this and not lime like it wasn't kazoo that's for kids right this person yeah this is for kids okay masak that's why it's always like uh sako what does that say i don't know what oh that his shirt is just i don't know animators ran out of money here so they couldn't give everyone shirt lines or like like no buttons or anything it was the year 2000. wow one of those kids looks very evil that kid looks so evil it's the uh one of the things they even have a nose also look butterflies yeah so how this season ended uh was an old man called oikawa who became a bad guy because he never he always wanted a digimon partner right right and then he got kind of a little bit upset that these kids got to

10:46 have digital partners and he didn't sure so he became a bad guy and got corrupted by vandaman who was a vampire and then at the end of the season got to meet his digimon yeah and then promptly died oh you get that and he became the butterflies became the butterfly yeah don't question it but uh so that happened so having knowing all that and this knowing that this would take place 17 years after the movie that we just watched they do meet again that's nice we would one would assume that that is all canon but when i first watched that i was a kid who was you know really into it and miyako was really into i.t and then she kind of i guess the ending didn't really say that she pursued that but a cd drama did come out that actually said that she was just on maternity leave so that's okay

11:32 and then kazuna had her working as a in university as a computer scientist was studying to be one so that was exciting a lot of stuff that i'm not going to do from now it is gone uh next uh another thing i want to educate you on is why this movie annoyed me so this was actually the first time i watched this movie i read the novelization uh back in february last year so just before the movie came out and the main reasons i didn't like it was do you remember the third part of the digimon movie that we watched with the the bunny and the bunny dies at the end and by the way we saw the bunny me the guy with the two bunnies in this uh in this movie and he was the evil one and the good one yeah the other one right yeah i remember so the english version actually cuts out a side plot to that

12:17 movie where the evil bunny has kidnapped all the chosen children and he's reverted them to children does that sound familiar yes i think i just yeah yeah we just saw that so that's the first thing the next thing is the fact that manoa's motivation for being kind of a little bit evil is the same as in try i mean i mean she was comatosing children in the real world so yeah that's pretty evil yeah in uh in tri there was a character and spoilers for trivia haven't seen it and you and i've seen the first three parts there is a character called marky who we find out is deeply deeply traumatized because she was an original chosen and her digimon died and she kind of just becomes obsessed with trying to make this

13:03 digimon reborn so she reboots the entire digital world in hopes that she can meet her digimon again which means basically killing all the digimon partners did it work um no she ends up strangling her digimon because digimon doesn't remember her oh that's good uh so i would like to show you my favorite scene in all of try the strangling no gosh no so this is called the original digidestined flashback and it's in this it's the first like part of uh part four and it's seen like it's it's it's got some nice music to it which i'm hoping is coming through yeah it's very good because the headphones weren't working before so in the first season we learned that the chosen that we know of with tai chi and the others aren't the first group of chosen children that there was another group before and in try we

13:48 actually get to meet two of those they lasted 14 seconds each before getting eaten by that giant bug from the first episode which giant bug quagmon also a bit of digimon law there are four holy gods one is a dragon one is a turtle one is a beast and one is a phoenix there's also some uh eastern mythology there as well is this a silent movie what is this it's sort of meant to be sort of it's it's a style and those are the dark masters by the way who are the who are bad guys joker melons jokermon and they appear in the first season his name is piedmont i don't think so there is a joke come on though oh and there's also an entity called homeostasis who likes to possess little girls okay and give exposition and that character is maki who is the one who has a breakdown and gets

14:34 traumatized because her digimon dies yeah you get that which is again what was sort of we got happened to manoa in kizona well traumatizing children is a long running trope of this show then maybe they should use adults yeah and then they did i don't know i never had enough money to animate this as well no i think it looks good okay yeah that's her digimon by the way okay all right and i really like the music in this scene oh that's what i wanted because that's right from the movie they always had like a backing of like tragedy opera yeah tragedy opera so sometimes bolero so their digimon became like that they were five original chosen four of them became gods one of them just died oh you get that i mean and it's this one who dies and who doesn't get to evolve looks like a doom npc like a doom boss oh there's a lot of

15:19 characters who look like doom bosses in this uh or just they're actually a typical like chinese winged circle so yeah they all fired through it to build up their attack so they basically obliterated uh one of the characters did you have to power up the attack oh the power of the attack yeah right now there's some i don't know just go with it effectively used him as a silencer and uh and kind of traumatized this poor character as they became the guy some of the other guys weren't doing stuff like this you know this this this seems a lot more overpowered and the other the other bunch of kids are throwing around little basketball-sized digimon these guys are well in kizuna i like the shots of the chosen children around the world and one of them just had numamon who throws poo and when it was fighting the eos mon there was just poo so yeah she's kind of

16:04 traumatized because only four of them were chosen to uh become the gods and she becomes evil is this the one who chokes her digimon yep that's fair yeah so she reboots the digital world goes to see her digimon and then doesn't recognize you can't they just be friends again no well yeah you'd think that but she's so like traumatized and broken at this point but she rebooted it while i don't remember if she restarted it i don't think she thought it through but then she strangles the digimon and then she goes into a corrupted part of the digital world called the dark ocean with an ak-47 right and it's never seen again we've been there before haven't we yeah we've all been there before you know happens every day for me it was just tuesday so that's a bit of education on digimon uh so now you know why why this why the novel really annoyed me that

16:50 i've been not really wanting to watch this movie because of those two points i just i feel like we've done it before and now we we did it again in kazuna so did your thoughts about the movie changed and also we have the epilogue as well where we know that the kids are okay that's fine people are always going there are people are always going to play on nostalgia it's like the number one thing especially when your fan base is getting older yeah so i don't know if they're still making this show like they're making like they just rebooted uh did well it just finished last weekend but they rebooted digimon adventure and they made them all like kids in the year 2020 and they kind of changed the storyline and also the device now looks like this see there's also another one there i guess they're selling toys in the end that's what the device now looks like it's for kids

17:35 right yeah the new the new season was for kids and it was what i hear about now for people for just stuff like demon slayer and stuff like that you know i don't know marketing this stuff yeah well themes are still yet that's still a shonen yeah that's for kids isn't it i mean i wouldn't say for kids i think it's for everyone but digimon is i would say more for kids i guess but there is a new season of digimon that starts tomorrow called digimon ghost game and that has them using the vital bracelet as the device which is the you know the little watch that i wear yeah well they must i guess they must be producing it for a reason the toy lines must sell i guess like yeah like star wars and disney they're just producing it for the yeah well they're also acknowledging that people like it from other places now like from outside of japan well i think it was pretty big in australia next it

18:22 was like a pokemon competitor yeah but they they're putting like english subtitles on their live streams with like they do uh something called digimon navi which is kind of like a nintendo direct but for digimon i've lost interest you've lost interest lost interest more interest okay i'm sorry uh anyways so what were your highlights from this movie i don't really have oh actually you know what the animation i guess was pretty cool of the um the thing the big one yeah the b one they weren't attending to b sort of thing still there yeah serious one all right i feel like it should have a different name but whatever or speaking of things with names argamon and goblin evolve into things they do actually have names what are they called well the one that agamon evolves from like into rather is ogamon bond of courage that's nice and

19:09 government evolves into government bond of friendship that's nice because that's their crescendo friendship to die later yeah basically i don't even think that's a day later but no the animation was quite good yeah it was fun flexible like nice smooth the shields and everything the honeycomb patterns all that sort of the lighting the brown lighting it was it was different to other stuff and it's hard i guess to make it look different because the other movies that we saw they're fighting in 3d digital scapes that are all roughly the same so the only way to change that up is to put stuff in there or change the color palette and they did and they did yeah so brown and sort of gold was a really big color yeah and lots of purple and blue and then yeah again the butterfly and then they

19:55 went for naruto colors but they're your two main goals well yeah that that's like a that's a trophy orange and blue yeah that's that's the tropine they've got the the red guy in the blue guy that's that's just a trope in lots of anime yeah like the blue and the red guy always fight well actually i guess orange well they're they're friends like that's that's the whole thing except that tai chi had a crush on sora you know the character who didn't exist in this movie oh wait no wait yeah my real highlight of the movie was the start where they kill a giant parrot oh the j again that's my favorite part i don't i don't even recognize him he was in the movie he was the one that the greymon fought in in hikarigo definitely the one where they staked the parrot to the ground with 50 spears and then you send him two that felt like overkill yeah considering just graymond beat him last time doesn't make any why does it take so much and then they smashed all those buildings

20:41 probably killed a bunch of people like yeah i don't really talk about the aftermath of this sort of thing they didn't try because tai chi saw some like damage happen yeah they flashed back to it and he yeah he was like i'm really upset about this like one phone and broken bridge i remember that yeah actually i do remember that yeah but yeah this this movie had a lot of collateral damage my highlights were basically the ones that i guess the writers and animators of this movie wanted me to have which is all the the callbacks to the other bits of digimon we have bolero which played a lot in the original series we had the animations of uggamonto greymon and greymonte metal graymon i wish that we had more of these evolutions that were just shot for shot for the same as the original i thought they were really nice but again that's just playing it

21:28 nostalgia ignored all those characters though they annoyed all the other ones yeah that that's that that check i remember a big deal like a big deal in the first starter and watching it as a kid the cactus was a big deal cactus is a big deal and then it's now they didn't even show it now it's they all humanoid humanoid yeah megaman command and the other one yeah what's the other one gabamon horus walrus no that no that's gomon the same guy same same guy they they yeah it's they didn't really focus on anyone else oh no they they don't like to do that really but i liked all the callbacks i liked when we got to see all the other chosen they're actually chosen we've seen in the show in the second season of digimon which is the one with their list a little it's set in the year 2002 and it's the one

22:14 from the epilogue that we just watched they actually go around the world and they meet the digidestined with racist stereotypes so we meet the australian one who's at a beach and by the way did you know that they go from the sydney harbour bridge to the great barrier reef in about four seconds i think by boat i think they're okay i think they're close no queen they're like 5 000 kilometers oh really where's the great barrier queensland oh it's danny i don't know about it it's not the woof wasn't in 2002 yeah i'm not sure yeah they go to mexico and they're they there's a little mexican girl and that's really cute uh and she's got it it makes sense because because japan's really closed isn't it like they're not really super aware yeah that's all that even 20 years ago they were not like what's the word insular you know what i

23:00 mean they're sort of they're not really don't have a huge well generally speaking don't have a huge widespread well yeah the the australian uh character and i told you this when watching the movie is dingo yeah and the gemini that's from australia his name is eucalyptus yeah they may not be like on top of the whole um naming convention just cultural awareness now that people are sort of pervading everything you know i couldn't like make a show and i make the kids name and i would like what's his name his name is sushi roll like you can't like i can't do that yeah like what's a japanese animal animal yeah like japan if they kill a kid dingo what would you call tanooki i know like like you know something like when you think japan what do you think the animal of japan well i'm thinking snooki um adiya i guess i don't know because of nara i think of australia you think of like kangaroos or dingoes and stuff like

23:45 dingo babies yeah or anything what do you think of like japan like what uh like the the monkey i think you're wrong anyway you think i'm wrong i think you're wrong i don't think of monkeys i know because i think of the the onsen monkeys or like the deer and nara i think it's like maybe an octopus or an octopus oh yeah all those octopus running around japan so what no no no no no that's the bird the um oh i'm terrible what's that we have a national animal i think it might be actually the crane no i think it might be the crane i will google it after this maybe it's parrots maybe it's parents it could be maybe it's a cactus i don't know but no i i see a point but yeah i just loved the fact that we got to see the chosen children that we've seen we've got michael who's

24:31 american with a betamon we had all the the chosen children around the world who we've met in the digimon world tour arc we had willis slash wallace walrus and his lo it's what he's he's oh so wallace is american i know yeah and he speaks english in the movie but that reminds me of uh in this movie this in the flashback she spoke fluent japanese to morphmon which i'm assuming that she would speak not she would she would not she'd be speaking not like in japanese i felt like that was a weird thing but you know that's that's normally done in movies like yeah yeah you can't once you've heard her you heard her english in the movie she's obviously not a native speaker i think she's she could have found it sounded fine but not a native speaker so using like long sentences

25:17 would have sounded a bit clunky well we did have in a hurricane touchdown which is a japanese version of the third part of the movie that we watched a little bit ago wallace does speak english in the scenes without the other chosen around and it's a little bit clunky but i think that the act the voice actress was actually fluent in english but the tough language i think the words that they gave the actress didn't fit like she says please tell mum amy i'm going to the summer memory but it's meant to be please tell mom amy but i'm going to the summer so he's talking to somebody called amy but he just says please tell mum and me yeah so that there's some but yeah i just it just kind of stuck out to me as well she's speaking japanese but uh yeah so do any other highlights because all mine are just nostalgia

26:03 it worked for me that was my two highlights two highlights yeah low lights not really it was just it was just a typical movie like i could like you know you could write that plot in like you know 30 minutes it's the same plot as every other of their movies well yeah i mean it's every story one you know it one day everyone was happy until and then they had to you know just fill in the blanks but the tears didn't bring their digimon back to life that's true i was really surprised at the end when the digimon didn't come back and that was a little bit upsetting for everybody involved in season four of digimon one of the characters actually went to the digital world because he fell down some stairs and entered and was and was put into a coma and that's how he got into the digital world and actually came out if he had hit a phone at the bottom of the stairs what happened no i don't know it's never explained he just goes there

26:49 he bashed his head in a crt mode he was looking for like his long-lost brother he'd only just found out existed by his like dying like grandmother and he uh fell down some stairs trying to stalk his brother and then entered the digital world where his brother was but also lost his memories so he became an evil digimon that makes sense and then he remembered who he was um so at the end of the season he's like on an operating table dying and the kids somehow burst into the operating theater of a hospital and cry on him oh they did oh it's joking okay i don't know anything he comes back to life you get that the power of courage and all that yeah but no this didn't happen there uh my lowlight is like i'm fairly certain that piyomon died which is the pink bird who is partnered with sora who was the

27:34 character that didn't really appear what how do you know um at the end when she's like saying oh you know go tai chi after the whistle blow which is another highlight the whistle blow was big nostalgia for me oh she looks at her digivice and it's black and cracked like titan yamato's was and no one else gets that was grey yeah it was okay it was grayed out and like it looked it would look dead and broken and tai chi had that and you might have had that maybe that's just like her stone replica that she has may be a stone replica but i feel like it didn't highlight that enough that she had grown up and moved on from the digimon but they never didn't tell anyone else about that no she didn't tell me how sort of digimon died like okay so there is a bunch of shorts which i do have that's fine please this this blue right here but it was nev

28:20 only one was released with english subtitles okay and in it mimi and sora talk about how um sora doesn't want to fight anymore and she doesn't want to be part of the chosen she just wants to move on and be an adult and support it and kind of like go her on her own path and mimi's like oh that's fine that's fine you don't have to like fight alongside us this is a common like this is a common enough trope that happens in in like children's stories and stuff like that yeah even it's even as far back as um um you know the narnia books yeah yeah one of the girls in there like they were kings they were like the chosen children and one of them was like you know what i'm done yeah and they just stopped believing and they were not that's sad they didn't get to go to the secret world same thing as her she stopped believing she didn't get to go to the digital but vm like basically i'm assuming died like we don't see bmon in

29:05 that scene we just see her like the the dead stone digivice yeah and it just doesn't really make a big deal of that did she try crying on it i mean did you try crying but she was just holding it and the other the only other scene of her in the movie is her hugging bm on and saying it's okay together i think that's probably like acceptance you know yeah but she but she wasn't transported to the the neville neverland no no so she didn't have a ditch but she did have a digimon then because they were like bmw's like i shouldn't want to fight and so i was like i know i don't want to fight i just want to be here in the movie yeah oh okay well they sort of address it a little bit but it did happen in the short but yeah that's basically my highlight that it didn't really and sorry low light rather that that the show didn't or the movie rather didn't look at her and sort of show her a bit more and be more obvious

29:51 like what's she feeling kind of like biomon died like that that's really sad like we focus on tai chi yamato saying goodbye to their digimon but sora was never in on the conversation accepting grief that's part of a doctor yeah but but she wasn't she didn't she wasn't in the conversation that they found out that their digital mum were going to die yeah oh well so her digimon would have just disappeared like there was definitely something going on like finding that out like she was too busy arranging flowers she didn't notice yeah which was a huge thing part of her plot in the first season was that she really was into playing soccer oh and her mum didn't want her to hurt herself okay because she just said hey why don't you just uh come arrange some flowers with me and she was like no i don't care about you stupid flowers i want to play soccer there's a name for it for japanese flower yeah i forgot the name for it as well but it's the whole

30:37 thing it's a whole thing she is a successful one like that is her job she's like the master of it like that that's the mum and in this movie she's kind of decided to go on along with that past well she had a parrot they know a lot about players yeah maybe that's the evil parrot that's like we have the evil bug and we have the evil parrot you know the pug you know his name you know story you know who it is do you have any other lowlights no oh did you have a favorite character in this movie the red bug guy the potential yeah who a lot of people don't know but i know a lot about digimon because i did a lot of digimon podcasts like this one is the real villain he's the real overarching villain of all because if you notice in the first season they fight the bug yes the same guy no it's not same but then

31:24 you see the bug the red one in his cold dead eyes staring at everything he does have tantamount does have like exceptionally dead eyes so he know he's he's pulling the strings with his bunker brothers bug brothers um it's i i think this is the long con with him yeah and i think he's probably the overarching villain we're gonna see like a moriarty sherlock holmes thing here between him and the fact that yeah the ditch they're really i think so the real enemy was like you should hire me as a writer because that would be great that would be great yeah i'd pay to see that yeah uh i think i i think i would have to go with like i would say miyako but i felt like she was in the movie enough uh she was the one with the purple hair who was good at computers and had a bow another bird that's wrong what were you making

32:10 chris is wrong she was in the movie for 30 seconds okay yeah i know but i always like me you didn't do anything i know uh nothing i'm gonna say kosher which one's the one with the bug he drinks oolong tea slash potato jerky shakes okay makes sense yeah i i like him i think i think he was helpful for the movie but also he was partnered with the bug he may not be aware how evil the bug is though yeah maybe just look at it some of the past like you can see in the first ep i remember it wait and the movies and stuff where some they do they overcome all the evil and whatever and he's just in the background and they could insert some music in there yeah and he's just staring like he's not happy he has no emotion no so he's plotting he does have those dead green eyes that just like he's very he's quite

32:55 emotive is there a is there a figure around here somewhere yeah he's in there up there he's hanging out with kosher on his computer there's a gem figure of him he doesn't yeah it doesn't look trustworthy all the other ones everyone else is super trustworthy i think like everyone else is happy and they've got a smile and stuff like that but him you know you know what i mean if even uh even this one he's just i'm showing him the pokemon figure with the teeth but he's a friendly color he evolves to padamon who evolves to angel that's a friendly color it's a friendly color and he's not horrific you know what i mean like he's kind of like he's a blob that one didn't start as a blob yes he did he as like uh what is that he starts with this one oh that's not so bad then yeah maybe he's not evil no maybe not because he starts they all start like that

33:41 though maybe they swapped him out maybe they stopped and what about liam on he seems fine again that's a humanoid like that's to me that's the most boring thing about the whole show they all the humanoids they get further on whereas i think they should get they evolve he becomes a metal wolf that's fine his attack is metal wolf claw but he fires it from his mouth for some reason it seems to imply evolution means becoming more humanoid i think it should be the other way around yeah like should become butterflies like aggro man should become a 27 headed dragon or something instead rochimon is a digimon but uh yeah so um what about a rating out of five so how many stars would you give this movie compared to one i don't know just like if you saw this movie just as a movie like as you know by itself what would you give it it's like a two or a three because like it's again

34:26 like it's if you were just it's just a popcorn movie like if you you know if you there's no way anyone would ever go out of the way to watch this movie unless you read ready okay so you're saying that it it is like you can't really enjoy it as much you can but there's just no reason to like there'll be no reason to like this is like the fast and the furious 10 yeah to be there it is of of movies like all the digimon movies that i've seen in anime movies in general they're pretty much this yeah i know i i mean i would actually give it a three which is a lot higher than i thought i would like i really felt like the movie did play into the nostalgia more than the novelization compared to the other ones that we watched these the music was good on the other ones this one didn't even really have music that i remember it had the same uh oh i had they had the op style music but then yeah it had the same music as the original season like i really liked

35:13 when the zero two kids showed up they played like an instrumental version of the opening for zero two i really liked that there was at the end where uggman and government decided to like continue to fight there was another i think the instrumental is just called zen or heroes boring anyway for a movie they should have yeah anyway for you maybe they should have done it more rap music all right music or something like you know like making nostalgia could make it new um yeah like aladdin the new aladdin movie i like that i like the light i had the genie song but they remix yeah they're like i think i think the genie song is actually the same as the stage play genie song because i'm fairly certain i remember the mr oh what's your name oh never mind fairly certain i remember that in the musical version oh well but i'm not like i i loved the new aladdin actually no it

35:58 wasn't it's always it's a point for me yeah what about because we were talking about the my hero academy movies while we were watching this what about how many stars would you give them for comparison oh the first one like like two stars and then the second one three or four like the second one yeah well the first one feels exactly like an actual digimon movie that already exists where they go to okinawa and they have adventures but they look good it's different those movies look good and they have like a gentleman like they they're modern oh this oh this i don't know this maybe felt modern but it didn't have a modern story i guess because it was written alright yeah well it was set in 2010 right but it was written in some other in 2020 well it came out in 2020 yeah did this look like the yeah 2020. oh what i meant my modern storyline is like it didn't feel like wait okay when

36:44 you pick up a piece of literally i don't know how it works with anime and stuff you pick up a book from like the 60s if you don't know anything about it you can read a new television in the 60s yeah you know for this it feels like the plot line was written in the early 2000s or 90s no this movie was that was written now it was written like it will it came out last year yeah but i'm so i'm assuming it was written in like 2018. academia ones like you they feel modern because the plot lines are kind of modern you know except for the first one is exactly like a digital movie yeah yeah i mean like over super powered villain and then temporary powerful yeah yeah you know i know what you mean but but yeah still they just enable us why not yeah so i really liked the animation kazooner like i mean it was smooth it was fine it was like hey did you evolve did you both did you did did you do all these evolutions

37:31 yeah and then you see the other one evolve and you see it's like what's it's it eos distance or like what's it doing and like you're squinting because on the screen it's it's they can't even see anything like they're like they gave up they should have cut to them having binoculars i mean like what's that doing it's digivolving how can you tell i just yeah i've got a light here that lights up when it happens like it doesn't i couldn't see anything on the screen like why would they not have that be a huge deal remember when i made you watch evangelion yeah oh wait no did they maybe they did no where did you evolved it just kind of started yeah at the start that that was it was like when they were finding it and they were like pretending that the movie was going to be over in 15 minutes or whatever yeah um it just checks out because yeah you know like we're all get together all use their powers and then it wasn't enough but what if we could do even more yeah it didn't i don't know that's like

38:16 people watch this for the day when i was a kid i used to like watching the digi yeah i liked that you didn't know what was coming and what you did eventually but you hate it eventually but you never knew like you're always waiting for that one step further like like dragon ball z goku super saiyan 2 3 4 whatever they're doing you're always waiting for that one step further and they made i don't know if you've seen dragon ball z i wasn't allowed to watch too violent like dragon ball z when he goes super saiyan uh like three whatever so like it took a whole season for him to get to super saiyan one and then he goes three it took a whole episode of screaming like if you watch on youtube um that's that's the same in digimon the supercar oh no supercar the the cart you you watch it and he's literally screaming for like five minutes um yeah you should watch that on the other hand watch it on youtube it's on the um on the youtube

39:04 it's cool and it was cool when i was a kid it's cool now i think cool and that felt like something that felt like he was doing something i know they can't dedicate an entire episode of digimon to digivolving but it's a movie why couldn't they at least show interesting well he did it twice and i guess they did the second the second time is a big deal when it comes out of the water anyway yeah yeah i know i thought that was really cool like with the s1 evolving it was cool yeah the animation was smooth it was fine as far as this stuff goes fast digimon do you have any more thoughts about digimon no no it's done they all died it should be done with the franchise i'm looking forward to ghost game which comes out tomorrow this stuff because i'm really looking forward to going you've been doing this for my entire life well i've i've been doing the podcast since 2015 2006 2015. she'd switched to something new we were going no we were

39:49 going to swap to cardcap zakura or dragon ball what about something oh dragon ball is cool and compare the differences between the english and japanese versions but then digimon kept on releasing things you can do something there's plenty of useless i'm sure there's lots i don't really follow anime seasons anymore i haven't watched an ass anime series for like 10. we watched my hero academia yeah i mean like no partially though not we just watched a couple and what was the other one bikini warriors and bikini warriors who could forget who could forget ichi towson that's my new podcast these are the ones that i remember from like like super young people used to talk about but i do acclaim all podcasts just to yell into the void about play was super cool except for the ending except for the ending but that's that was a terrible terrible ending it was a terrible ending and it would have been equal to like

40:34 berserk or something if it actually had you know i'm sure there's a podcast and stuff about these things something new and modern you could do like uh evangelion something new modern [ __ ] yeah mcgowan just came out the last movie series every year well that was the original plan but digimon we i thought digimon was dead when i started this room it is but no there's a new season coming out tomorrow yeah i know but i like guys i'd like to see the viewers like the viewership numbers and stuff like that are you doing well or at least it's selling toys it's selling toys that's i think that was like when we're in japan remember how many like what what's that guy called mega man uh ultraman ultra mania ultraman's like toy lines oh fun thing uh the vinyl bracelet the watch that i have yeah uh has now been is now released in kamen rider form and ultraman oh

41:21 that's the other one too like the toy lines think i don't know if they're saying over here but i feel like they're not like the toy lines over there seem really crazy tidy i mean yeah and you see like pikachu advertising banks and stuff like that yeah credit cards and mobile plans you can't obviously in australia use the children's um uh games and toys to advertise credit cards because that's a very for obvious reasons you can't do that the same reason that you can't advertise like um you know pikachu branded cigarettes yeah but in japan like they don't have those learn and have those laws against advertising yeah that's that yeah that is a wild thing about being in japan like that though i'm getting a credit card you can trust pikachu he wouldn't lead you astray yeah like yeah when he's managing my finances echo man approves of philip morris tobacco oh if you can't yeah yeah

42:06 because he makes fire uh but anyway are you gonna philip morris uh sponsorship sponsorship yeah oh please please no uh but yeah so any other thoughts are we are you ready to leave and not talk about digimon anymore no i can leave and not not talking not thinking about it every instant you enter this room again until i have six months yeah oh and also tai chi has porn magazines that was something oh yeah that's true he had the pawn under the bed yeah and then the digimon pulled it out yeah and they were saying oh tai chi you've grown and now and tai chi is like agamon you've not grown at all which is like the mental the mental state that the digimon seems to get up as they did evolve so next question what did you evolve level do you have to be at to watch porn and these are questions that we'd like answers too yeah and i'll be adding it to my letter to mr t mr digimon writer you know because he can't

42:52 watch it at that from one form above is it cool like yeah well it goes charles and then adult oh so okay yeah which isn't that old but then again it's japanese porn so it's probably soft stuff maybe uh well in the tamagotchi where digimon kind of like stuff like star wars started as a tamagotchi in the tamagotchis they go baby child teen adult right and they kind of go secret carriage or they die after adults oh good but the digimon go baby baby two child a child adult perfect ultimate super ultimate there's more information i'm so sorry he's all he's all my information as i walk out of the door the information stays in this room yeah but uh yeah so nothing else no all right well thank you so much for joining me and talking to me about

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