They Actually Banned Ouija Boards Because of This

0:05 outside of working hours when Marines aren't otherwise being kept at the Armory all night to scrub their rifles they do have a fair amount of downtime in the evenings some go to the gym some are Gamers some watch anime some read books some get drunk and among other various activities some apparently try speaking to the dead now this episode only contains a few such stories however as future episodes involving Soldiers and Sailors will indicate this unusual Pastime activity is not exclusive to Marines but why does it not surprise me in the least to find out that Marines are practicing necromancy in the barracks for fun I won't spend any time explaining in great detail the concept of the Ouija board I gather that you probably have a general grasp of it

0:51 wooden board letters numbers short answers several people put their hands on a small wooden planchet and then they all act as if nobody is moving it around while one among the group with the best poker face is the one actually guiding it or maybe like my experience with being hypnotized each person just allows for the suspension of disbelief to take place and takes part in The game everyone taking it in turn to guide the device to the next letter or answer all while convincing each other a spirit is moving it but what if the game ended and the planet continued to move on its own what if other unexplained things started happening if these following stories are to be believed and the Marines telling

1:37 them are certainly very sincere in assuring us that these events did in fact happen living in the barracks is bad enough maybe this episode is something that will make our Warf Fighters a little more cautious about inviting unseen guests into the rooms this is the smoke pit and these are true stories of experiences that Marines have had with Ouija boards one of the often sighted reasons people have tried using a Ouija board is to find something or someone I'm not sure what the Ouija board success rate is but I do know of another resource

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3:56 just by trying it out however as this episode will indic there are some things you might want to avoid trying like messing with Ouija boards now on to the stories Marine Corps engineering school Barracks camp leun for this first story I wanted to offer my thanks to Ian H for bringing it to my attention thanks Ian and sorry I wasn't sure if you wanted me to use your last name or not he emailed me last year to say that he'd heard about a Ouija board incident a board Camp leun from a paranormal scholar video it all took place in mid November of 2013 I think I was in Hawaii going through sergeants course at the time anyway evidently some Marines assigned to the Marine Corps

4:42 engineering school Barracks over at the courthouse Bay Area of Camp Lun had been messing around with a Ouija board strange things started happening around the barracks people started freaking out making reports the chaplain was called and ultimately the command got involved now here's what I thought was wild the incident was bad enough to Warrant a standing order Banning Ouija boards issued by the commands then Co Colonel JJ Johnson JJ thebuckle Ura Colonel Jeffrey Johnson in standard Naval letter formatting this order was legitimately distributed to the entire command and posted to the Barrack's door it reads 18 November 2013 from commanding officer subject line Marine Corps engineer

5:28 School Ouija boards standing order line one the use of Ouija boards also known as a spirit board or talking board is not authorized to be used in or on Marine Corps engineer School spaces buildings or property two the use of Ouija boards has been found to create mystery and fear within the ranks of our Marine Corps engineering school population and is deemed contrary to good order and discipline three those that are caught using or participating in Ouija board activity will be subject to administrative action for point of contact regarding this matter etc etc signed JJ Johnson of course I wanted to know what prompted all this but much of what had been posted online about the

6:14 incident was later scrubbed maybe because the command caught wind of it and wanted these posts taken down to avoid more unwanted attention on their command who knows however nearly a decade later someone did follow up on a previously removed post on the incident and offered some insight into the events he writes January 2nd 2022 I am the Marine who got Ouija board's banned from Courthouse Bay to sum it up without sparing details my roommates and I messed with a Ouija board for a 3- days straight the board was very fond of my roommate it assuming by this he means the planchet would point at him whenever he was in the room regardless of whether he was on the board or not it answered our questions just fine

7:00 I snapped the board in half when it started becoming aggressive going in figure eights and counting down everyone thought it was a joke that's when things started getting bad I guess I did it the wrong way my roommate started having violent nightmares woke up with large bruises I watched scratches appear on his back this was straight out of TV but just not as violent though he developed an infection on his feet it was all a weird time I was attacked in my sleep by a large Shadow SL Mist smoke figure although it could have been sleep paralysis this was 2013 and after we left a kid was possessed and apparently thrown around his room they told the

7:45 chaplain and somehow they figured out we'd used Ouija boards and I guess the possession was bad enough to Garner the attention of the colonel at that time Ouija boards were promptly banned thereafter for all of Courthouse Bay at least the engineer School well all of that sure would get the CO's attention the commanding officer who wrote that standing order Colonel Johnson retired from active service in the Marines the following year his last Duty station there being the engineering school I bet hands down this is something from his Marine Corps career he will not quickly forget do you tell this story at party sir or is this something you'd like to forget ever happened I don't know the man I can't imagine what was going through his mind

8:31 as he sat down to have to write that letter or maybe I can I expect there was a lot of choice swear words and wondering what the hell was wrong with young marines these days reading over his retirement edifications Colonel Johnson had a significant impact on the Marines he served with including the Marines under his command I only mean this in just because I have the utmost respect for his 24 years of service including his tours to Iraq and Afghanistan but considering he retired from the Marines only 8 months after this incident I do wonder if this incident possibly factored into his decision to finally retire as Ian pointed out when he emailed me the Paranormal scholar Channel had included this story in and amongst a compilation of Ouija board incidents stating that

9:16 their original Source was a rallypoint.com article posted by a marine staff sergeant who was involved in the incident possibly the same Marine who took the photo of the posted order I couldn't find that article that she Laura the host of the Paranormal scholar mentioned which may have contained more details than I was otherwise able to track down she had stated from her research there were various other strange happenings that resulted in scaring the other Marines in the barracks out of their wits and ultimately bringing it to the command's attention things like doors opening and slamming on their own disembodied voices and other sounds voices of little girls screaming in the nearby Woods Laura also stated that following the incident the engineer Barracks had implemented a

10:02 quote permanent sitting post to protect the barracks from what she referred to as quote Intruders both seen and unseen I expect she might have mistaken the 24hour firew watch that the barracks would have already had in place which every Marine Barracks has for some sort of special just implemented 24-hour ghost watch I can't imagine any reasonable Commander like Colonel Johnson would seriously expect his Marines to patrol the barracks every night and scream identify yourself to spirits but we've already covered stories in previous episodes where Marines and soldiers have made log book records of weird happenings while on Barracks Duty I would also not put it past a pissed-off staff sergeant to implement an extra night shift for a few

10:49 weeks as a punishment for the Ouija board users telling his Marines something like all right idiots for the next eight weeks you're going to make like Scooby-Doo and keep an eye out for the ghosts you conjured up let us know in the comments if you were on Camp leun at the time and remember anything else from this [Music] incident it kept coming back so we got jokes huh we think it's funny right play with this to put this on gunny's desk right gunny's just a idiot right you're going to break it into his office and you're going to put this on his desk who the [ __ ] broke it

11:34 in my office I want that to step forward right now I will take off my rank and we will go Toe to Toe right now who the I will page 11 the lot of you if one of you doesn't step forward right now and tell me who the did this oh nobody huh nobody you all jokes jokes AR gy right the next story was also found online while trying to find more information about the previous story involving camp leun this writer doesn't offer us much by way of details about when or where but if true his story is certainly exceptional he writes this is going to be a fairly long story and I'm going to leave out names in places I was stationed on a US Army base I was in the Marines so we had our

12:21 own Detachment separate from the Army I'm curious if the base he was on wasn't Fort leonardwood I've got some other stories about that base but there's other army bases that have Marine Corps detachments that's just one that I'm aware of anyway our Gunnery Sergeant caught one guy using a Ouija board one night gunny later threw it in the trash in front of all of us while standing in formation gunny comes in the next morning to go to his office his office was locked and the door had a passcode that only he knows and apparently he found the damn thing sitting on his desk he calls another formation wants to know who snuck into his office nobody saying anything so he threatens all of us standing out there in the pouring rain with a page 11 uh for civilians a page 11 that's like getting a bad

13:06 administrative write up at work he again throws the board into a barrel he had waiting in front of us and now he burns the thing I mean totally toasted ashes there is nothing left he comes in the next day and finds the exact same board sitting on his desk he loses his mind and I mean the guy went out absolutely ballistic he calls in a priest who blesses this chest puts the board in the chest chains it shut puts seven padlocks on it and puts it in the basement of the admin building behind an old armory door he then calls the Commanding General of the base to come and have a chat with us from that point forward the rest of my

13:52 time station there was a living hell because of that effing board I haven't seen one or touched one since that nonsense went [Music] down you know I remember spending a lot of my time in the Marines just looking for lost gear we would spend an entire day just accounting for gear that seemed to be most of my job's duties was just opening boxes and making sure everything was in the Box closing the Box putting it on the Shelf a week later taking it back down opening it making sure all that gear was there and then when we went to the field 10 times as much just when we get there we

14:39 open the boxes we count the gear if we use the gear God forbid we use the gear and then we have to count it when we turn it back in so we spent a lot of time looking for lost gear I mean we would drive across an entire Island just to go back and pick up a serialized radio that had fallen off the back of a Humvee and don't even get me started on guys losing things like their rifles pecs ACOG crypto fill devices the dagger GPS devices we lost one of those and having to literally walk entire training areas for hours just to find these things often in the dark lost gear means a lot of paperwork and someone's going to get cursed out and yelled at so maybe if we just strapped a weija board to everything we would never worry about

15:25 losing gear just check gunny's desk the next morning and bam there it is in all seriousness I do wonder if someone wasn't just making gunny's life miserable by slipping a new Ouija board onto his desk every morning an unfortunate mistake since as they say in the Marines [ __ ] rolls downhill so if gunny is miserable everyone else is going to be miserable Camp Pendleton Navy hospital you you sure it's not you moving it no

16:11 it's not shut up the instructions said not to talk so much Mr Spirit what is your name j r Junior man I I I think we should go this was a bad idea pmo is probably yeah yeah yeah we'll go in a minute it'll be such a wimp let's find out more about this guy first what should we ask him H oh I know Jr are you a good spirit or an evil spirit B

16:57 A the kle [Music] [ __ ] see I told you PLO probably saw us SC in here all right get the candle I'll get the board let's go this next story comes from the book Tales From The Grid Square volume 1 if you haven't already checked out Nick's books which now includes Volume 2 or followed him on Instagram be sure to do so a young Marine stationed in California submitted the following story to him he writes one October night back in 2018 my friends and I were stationed at Camp Pendleton my one friend had just bought

17:42 a Ouija board so we made the ethical decision to of course go to the old abandoned naval hospital and see if we could talk to some ghosts over there which I am fully aware is not the smartest idea in the whole world we get there parking at the Wounded Warriors Clinic to not bring attention from pmo or anyone else we walk over and look around the Naval Hospital itself was locked tight I being the resident wimp of the group was just ready to bail then mysteriously we see one door open into the boiler room I swear we checked the whole exterior of the hospital twice and it wasn't until we were about to leave that we saw this open door so it was pitch dark in the boiler room itself

18:27 there were two parts to the room the entry before the boilers and a space behind the boilers themselves so we closed that door behind us when we went in and we went to the second space behind the boilers we had brought flashlights a candle and a Ouija board so we begin and at first everything is normal we're trying to stay quiet so we can listen to any possible pmo you know police officer come in and we got down to business we begin asking questions and in response we got a Jr who died there so on and so forth then as we asked if he was a good or evil spirit the handpiece was inching to spell out

19:13 bad we heard the door which we had closed behind us slam open and footsteps walk into the room so I'm like cool we've been caught well we leave to go to the entryway way to meet who we believed would be the cops waiting for us but there was no one and nothing to be seen just this door now standing wide [Music] open Camp Pendleton was one of my duty stations and because of the time I spent driving back and forth to the Wounded Warriors Clinic he mentioned I have seen that old Naval Hospital many times just

19:59 never went there myself the base opened a brand new hospital in 2014 thus ending the need for the older one which was originally built in 1974 to replace the original 1943 Hospital Construction in both cases the hospitals were replaced because they were becoming dilapidated and in need of repair and I think the 1970s one wasn't up to earthquake codes something like that of all the places my experience would tell me one could expect to find Spirits it would be in an old hospital my brother for a Time worked in a terminal children's ward in a university hospital and one day I was on the phone with him and without really any reasonable segue in the conversation he

20:45 just got real quiet like he was thinking about something and he asked me he's like Luke do you believe in ghosts and you know I said well I've heard a lot of stories and I mean they're in the Bible so I mean there's got to be something to these things right he then told me some stories about things that he had seen or heard from other nurses on staff in that hospital and I've never known my brother to make up stories or to even have an interest in the Paranormal he was really the last person that I would have expected to tell me a ghost story so it's hard for me not to just take his stories at face value and maybe in future when I get a chance I'll share them with you so hospitals yep they can be creepy being

21:32 in service throughout the Vietnam War and every conflict up until 2014 I can imagine the old abandoned Hospital on Pendleton has seen its fair share of death and misery and who knows what's still in [Music] there three long red scratches guys something doesn't feel right about this a come on bro it's just fun here let's ask bazu whether or not he likes you maybe it's a girl Spirit stop bazu dark Spirit from the beyond what say you about our friend here do

22:18 you like him or not I hate you guys that would be no damn bro guess you can't even Le a girlfriend in the next shut up oh look guys this has been hilarious and all but it's past 4 and I want to get some sleep can we just call this a night yeah I guess damnit is that like coming from the hallway no closet lights oh hell no did you see that just grabbed him this final story was posted in a comment on a previous video by one of your fellow viewers who goes by the handle

23:05 Tom Felton's perky nips okay I'm a Harry Potter fan myself speaking of ghosts and things not sure if I'm that kind of fan of Tom Felton though he played Malfoy uh but if you needed any proof that this story was posted by an actual Marine I think his choice of a username is more than enough to prove that anyway he writes Marine I was stationed on Camp Pendleton around a decade ago a few buddies of mine decided they would mess around with a Ouija board for fun this is the early 2010s smartphones were a thing but we were all 19 is and didn't have a whole lot to do in the barracks on the weekends no cars no girlfriends Etc at the time I was a practicing Wiccan and they asked me to participate I staunchly

23:52 declined but decided to watch anyway I wasn't doing much besides playing Xbox 360 anyways and then he's reflect in here he's like in parenthesis uh how I miss it yeah man I I miss playing Xbox too uh anyway he says these four Dum Dums gathered themselves around the Ouija board at 3:33 a.m. with the only light coming from a pentagram of candles Ed AF I know I'm sitting on the rack the bed watching these idiots on the floor trying to contain my laughter over how absurd four 19-year-old Marines look sitting around a Ouija board after 30 minutes of trying they make contact with an entity he called himself something inan like bazu or something similar I

24:39 was pretty sure it was the ring leader of the group taking everyone on a trip I again stifle my laughter they spoke with this entity for a brief period during which he declared he didn't like one of the kids in the group and let's call this kid Lance corporal Alpha I'm openly laughing now at the Ridiculousness of this whole thing and I suggest we all just go to bed and it was at this point two very strange things happened one the room had two closets with motion sensor lights both lights turned on simultaneously with the doors closed nothing to activate the sensors that had never

25:26 happened I should metion mention that during their Ouija board conversation The Entity had previously claimed he was residing in the room's closet and two Lance corporal Alpha's shirt gets pulled away from his body like someone had physically grabbed him by it his torso actually moved forward a few inches this stopped everyone dead in their tracks Lance corporal Alpha understandably so screams at the top of his lungs and hight Tails it into the hallway outside the room he had a broken leg and he was moving faster than I'd ever seen him move I immediately followed after him now this kid had close cropped hair like a high and tight

26:11 so his scalp was visible and the strangest thing about all of this when I caught up to him I saw that this kid had three very shallow but very fresh and angry parallel scratches running from the top of his head to the middle of his back seeing that shook me up more than anything from that point on they no longer wanted to mess with Ouija boards and multiple people started talking about weird occurrences in the barracks for the next few years I have more stories if you want to hear them too long didn't read version Marines play with Ouija board weirdness

26:57 ensues [Music] yeah brother I know this was posted as a comment uh so if you haven't tried emailing me yet yeah send me those other stories you got I'd love to read them Wiccan interesting I saw a lot of dog tags but I never saw Wiccan as a professed religion on them at one point I had them print Jedi on my tags though figured if I ever died someone would at least get a laugh this also reminds me of the night shift on Fort Campbell episode where Robert said he once met a soldier who said he was a druid which was his reason for being caught running naked in the Moonlight he probably had Druid stamped

27:43 on his dog tags as for this story I never saw the movie The Exorcist but it caught my attention during some light research for this episode that like the funny name these marines came up with bazu Pazuzu was the name of the demon in that 1973 horror film in the film The Girl becomes possessed by this demon after similarly using a Ouija board an odd coincidence if anything just something I thought worth mentioning in relation to this story maybe these young marines had started out trying to mimic what they saw in the film and ended up bringing it to Life the movie itself was actually derived from the novel The Exorcist which was inspired by a true story of a

28:29 demon possession from 1949 in which a 13-year-old boy was purportedly possessed after using a Ouija board the author William Peter blatty had scoured the priest's notebooks from that boy's case and became convinced that demon possession was real evidently the young boy also had strange red scratches appear on his skin as well blatty also played around with the Ouija board while writing the novel and after a period of 10 days he later explained that he stopped messing with it when like these young marines strange things started happening in his home such as his phone flying off the handle when it rang or his typewriter suddenly writing out lines of gibberish on its

29:16 [Music] own what I personally try messing with a Ouija board it's kind of like my take with most of these stories uh probably not you know why why risk it right I am a person of faith and there is only one spirit I would ever want to know that personally and fortunately he doesn't speak through Ouija boards I'm not going to tell any Marines listening not to use Ouija boards because frankly whenever you tell a marine not to do something you can guarantee they will go right out and do it the Marine Corps has had to give the exact same weekend safety break briefing every single Friday afternoon for a reason don't add to the population

30:03 don't subtract from the population stay out of the hospital newspaper and jail and now apparently don't summon demons into the barracks I doubt the standing order over at camp leun in 2013 did anything but peque everyone's interest and make even more Marines curious about Ouija boards and what kind of demons they could conjure up there are other ways to spend your time though one recent anime series I enjoyed watching was a Korean series called solo leveling bit gory stay safe out there

30:54 guys hey guys thanks for sticking around for the credits AKA a the after Action Report these episodes are always a little bit looser so obviously I had time during the episode to give you my own personal thoughts about the stories so for the credits here while these keep rolling why don't I just tell you the stories that my brother shared with me from his time working at that hospital so the first story he shared with me was that there were a couple nurses on duty they were sitting at the nurses station one night early morning and there was a woman a patient who came to the desk to tell them that she had just come from the women's bathroom and that there was a small boy so she apparently she had come out of the bathroom stall to see this child standing next to the sinks and it startled her because she didn't hear anybody come in she wasn't expecting to

31:39 see anybody when she came out but because she said the child looked lost or confused she wanted to help the child she tried asking the child's name he basically just wouldn't talk to her so then she went to the nurses station to report it well the nurses immediately got up to go investigate thinking one of the children had climbed out of bed maybe unplugged is IV right so they go into the bathroom and there's nobody in there so their next thought is okay he's wandering the hospital we have to find this child he might have gotten into an elevator he could be on a different floor so they go and check the security cameras to try and track him that way and the most confusing thing for them was the fact that from the moment they saw the woman coming out of the bathroom walking to the nursing station to the point where the nurses then walked back and walked into the

32:25 bathroom they saw nobody leave the bathroom my brother told me there was a room I don't know if it was on the same ward or different like above or below that Ward but there was a room in the hospital that had been permanently closed because too many people had complained over a period of time that they would be woken up in the middle of the night to see a child running through their room and in some cases the reports said that the child had run through the wall and the last thing he told me was his own experience in which he said that he was on shift one night and you know these are sick children and cancer things like that they're undergoing chemotherapy and a lot of stuff well there was a little girl that was asleep

33:12 on the bed and he was administering some kind of medication into her IV tube so he's trying really hard not to wake her up to let her rest and as he's administering her medication he's sitting next to her bed very close on one of those stools with wheels on it and he said he distinctly felt pressure on his left knee as if a small child had just put their hand on his knee so he immediately pushes himself back away from her bed thinking there's somebody hiding under the bed and there's nobody there and he said at the same time that he pushed his chair back away from the bed the soap dispenser mounted to the wall behind him activated and it's like an IR sensor so I assume it would be like if something had passed through

33:58 it so it just that kind of series of events feeling his knee being touched pushing the chair back and then hearing the soap dispenser activate yeah he's my brother I I've never heard him tell me anything about ghosts he's not like somebody that's got a new story every week this is the first and only time he ever shared anything with me um so yeah hard not to to take him seriously when you've lived with him your whole life and he just was never one to make up stories so as always thank you so much to my patrons YouTube channel members and those who have supported the Channel's growth through merchandise and other ways as of this episode our three-man team is now pushing for a two episode a month pace and we will look to see how to improve on production from there thank you all for watching thank you for subscribing for commenting and really

34:45 for helping us to get the channel to where it is today we could not have done it without you guys may God be with you no matter what you were dealing with and I will see you in the next episode [Music]