GAry WAyne ★ Nephilim Secret Societies

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2:20 welcome to paranormal into the night with your host dino ewell all things spooky all things paranormal get set get spooked hello everybody and welcome to paranormal into the night radio show with your host me dino ewell and uh where can you find us you can find us everywhere just search paranormal into the night you can find us on spreaker paranormal into the night facebook paranormal into the night

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3:54 we'll be discussing this i think uh our guest tonight uh gary wayne um is his name and his book he has out is uh the genesis six conspiracy uh house secret societies and this descendants of the giants plan to enslave humankind so yeah i think he has a message he wants to get out and uh very interested in hearing what he's got to say so with that said i will just go right into and introduce gary wayne gary are you there i'm here and i'm so excited to be with you tonight dino looking forward to a terrific show and i think some of the things that we're going to talk about is going to i think resonate with your

4:40 audience and certainly pick their curiosity on many things oh yeah for sure i mean uh i've come to find that the whole story behind the nephilim and the the giants of old and uh especially coming from the bible and stuff which is is kind of the take you uh uh you're a christian right so you kind of have some different kind of beliefs and so you dig a little bit deeper into the bible than i would when it comes to all this kind of stuff so so i know you got a message that you want to get out there and i would definitely tell you to feel free to say it uh you know be true to yourself say say how you want to say it get the message out

5:25 so yeah with that said uh what actually started you off in writing this book i mean did something happen were you on a crusade from the very beginning to get a message out there i mean how did this all start with you well i'm a real history buff i'm a real mythology buff and i'm a real prophecy buff and so what i decided to do was uh because there's so many different narratives in the bible that has to do with uh prophecy and so many intricate sort of parallel stories that go along i wanted to log it and as i was logging all these different narratives and files and getting ready you know maybe to perhaps someday write some books on these prophecies i came across

6:11 you know the giants in genesis 6 and then i came across them again you know in the old testament after the flood which was very very interesting and even into the time of the exodus and then of course and for people who may not be familiar with biblical prophecy in the new testament when it refers to the end times we take heat from jesus who talk uh talks about what his second coming will be like at the end of times and he says that these days will be like the days of noah and so when we talk about noah that's before the flood and then 350 years after the flood that he also lived so what was going on immediately before the flood what was going on immediately after the flood and how is that relevant to be like the days of noah as the end

6:59 times will be plus there's references to uh demons and angels and uh other really curious references that were in the new testament plus you've got the abyss in revelations and you've got the war in heaven and revelations and you've got armageddon so what i thought i would do is i would hopefully you know cut my craft on my first book and write what i thought was going to be the shortest book i would ever write and just connect you know genesis to revelation and what it turned out to be was an 800 page book and i took 25 out to get it published but what happened along the way was i started as i asked more questions in the research and started digging into it more doors were opening up and i started

7:46 to get you know i made linkages to other religions and other mythologies and found pretty much an identical story going on as what's talked about in in uh the bible in genesis as well as in the end times and then what really kicked the door wide open in terms of the path that it turned into a conspiracy book was i started to get information and documents from the secret societies and what they believe and all of a sudden that took it in a completely different direction and so you know i've been doing research on prophecy and and writing the first book all total for over 30 years and with writing this book more like about getting closer to 20 years with the promotion of it so and one of the things i wanted to do with the genre of the giants and this

8:32 conspiracy aspect that i was also bringing into it was i wanted to bring some credibility to the genre and so what i wanted to do was is really have a lot of research and show it in my book and keep as much of the speculation out as possible and so i use their documents their information and i don't try and manipulate it or twist it i let the secret societies or the gnostic religion or zoroasianism or uh the pope lou from the kisha maya whomever i'm using for a source i'll let them speak for themselves and just let it line up with what the bible says now i do measure everything for the christian audience out there everything that i find out there is i measure it to see how it's consistent with the bible

9:19 and so i don't get too far down the sort of the rabbit hole on this but i certainly use those other sources for context and so what i've done is i think i've created the most comprehensive book on this subject and i've got one narrative which nobody else has done everybody else tends to write on small slivers of this whole genre and this genre not only includes you know bible prophecy in the end time but it's also got a little bit in there on the alien meteos and a whole bunch of other things that people might be interested in wow so yeah there's a you cover a heck of a lot in this book then for sure yeah i call it a 6 000 year connect the dots investigation into

10:05 you know how the descendants of the giants and the secret societies and the mystical religion uh how they grew up together how they partnered with the descendants of cain and the fallen angels to corrupt the anti-living world and how they've been planning to do that ever since and how and why they're planning to bring on the end time okay well i mean i i definitely have plenty of questions like like why is it taking so long but i'm sure you've got your point of view on that but how about that let's start from the beginning then um who are the nephilim who are the the the ancient giants that you refer to and that and that is a real critical port point for credibility on this whole

10:50 subject but just before answer that is is from a christian perspective is the secret societies and the descendants of giants and the polytheist religions and their leviathan of organizations would bring about the end time as quickly as possible and have been trying but we're taught in the bible and in prophecy that until the restrainer is moved is removed that that time will not take place until the ordained time so that's why it's taking so long to answer that question quickly who the giants go go ahead oh no go ahead that you answered okay terrific and so the the nephilim are the offspring of the sons of god in genesis 6. and we read in genesis 6 that the sons of god which are

11:36 also known in hebrew is the benha elohim or angels as they're defined when you get into job as to who the sons of god are these are angels that go to human females that copulate with them and take wives and many thereafter to create a super race of demigods and these demigods were known as the nephilim and they were and they were giants in the original race of giants they had the immortal spirit and so god steps in also in genesis 6 and limits lifespan after that takes place because that's a violation against corruption according to biblical doctrine as to what the fallen angels did and limits life 220 years and it takes many generations for this to take place

12:23 but that immortality uh stays in place with the first generation even though their bodies weren't immortals that's who the nephilim are they're the sons of the rebellious angels that rebelled against god in the bible and we find that this is a most similar story that's told on all continents in all religions uh in most cultures around the world and whether or not you're talking about the diatria out of india or the azwan's out of india or the anunnaki out of sumeria or the titans out of greek mythology or the many giants that are known by different names literally hundreds of different names around the world it's telling the same story just that in

13:09 the polytheist perspective or the multiple god religions um and all these ancient religions had a religion so it was either a single god or it was many gods and gods of the pantheon is that the gods of the pantheon went to the human females and they copulated with them and created the demigods and so these were giants as well so this story doesn't matter where you go is told over and over and over and over and over and that can't be a coincidence and so when we talk about demigods um this is a reflection of what we see today just to bring it forward to this time and so that people understand that this mythos continues from all aspects whether it's christian

13:55 or non-christian sources and so if you look at superman or batman or any of these superheroes this is a reflection of that time this is a reflection and an allegory of these of these heroes of genesis 6 because they were called both in the iliad and other greek classics uh and in ovidis which was a roman sort of parallel of the classics that were written later um or ovidies in metamorphosis was the name of the book they were called heroes as well and so in genesis 6 they're called heroes of old in men of renown and it's not a coincidence that they're called heroes just as the anunnaki giants and kings of

14:40 the ring were also called heroes and in the ancient definition of hero it's understood a little bit differently than it is today so when you understand the definition of the ancient word hero it means the offspring of the gods and a human and they had and they were called demigods so this is this is how hero has changed over the time but when it's overlaid on to let's say superman we have uh you know a very very much a parallel story in a modern allegory because if you dig into superman his father is l from the house of l right and if you're

15:26 if you're familiar with biblical and religious language of gods l is either an angel or a god depending on which religion that you're in and it's a shining one which of course angels are shining beans as were the original offspring of the angels so this goes back to the house of el so this is of the the house of angels as the allegory would go here and superman he has this logo that essentially has a stylized inverted pyramid because pyramids are all part of the same sort of allegory and legacy and history that's on all continents in pretty much all cultures as we're seeing more and more and more of and it's got this stylized f in there

16:12 which is more like a snake and that's really really important when you start to understand what the angels look like who produce these this offspring and therefore what the offspring look like because they look just like them and that's where all of the snake and dragon imagery comes from is is the appearance of the angels and appearance of the nephilim and so the seraphim angels and for the christian audience seraphim comes from isaiah 6 depending on which translation that you're going to use seraphim or seraph and it's in reference to um this ministry not this ministry this order of angels called the watchers or the gregory for those who are familiar with

16:58 uh the mythology of the giants from outside biblical sources right and so and many would be all the watchers aliens too but uh i guess that's the alien uh ancient alien uh story and again that is identical to what the bible says only that they look at the aliens as being um not as great of an intelligent being or evolved being or however you want to look at their mythos but they're they tell the same story they just don't raise them to god-like status they're just this evolved sort of uh uh evolved sort of society and culture and and come from several planets but if you get into sitchin's uh mesos on it what

17:44 he writes about is is that they actually mate with human beings and there's two different uh uh levels of these uh anunnaki one he calls iggy i believe and the other one is the anunnaki so again identical story um but what i wanted to get to just before i i i i let you jump back in was is that these seraphim angels they had the face of a snake right that the face of a viper and so did they their first in early generations of the nephilim and so if you have wings on a on a angel that has the face of a snake you you have a dragon and if you take this and if you take the you know the wings off you basically in the

18:31 legs and the feet off you basically have a snake and this is relevant from the fact that if you look at the serpent in eden um we don't hear about the description of what a what a serpent looked like before eden only afterwards where it crawls on its belly and so as other sources would dictate and particularly the gnostic gospels they'll talk about a serpent as being as big as a camel uh in the time of adam and that some had wings and they had others had arms and hands but they both had feet and it was a very highly intelligent animal only um second to adam and humans and that this animal was absolutely um punished for taking part with the

19:19 fall of adam in eden and so if you have one with wings you now have a snake with wings that's a dragon and of course uh you have the regular serpent with legs and and hands and in ancient times whether it's a crocodile or it's a serpent or a dragon they were all considered the same animal and being huh okay so that's technically uh who the nephilim were um yeah and that will also answer why there's so much dragon and snake imagery in all the ancient societies that again is part of this legacy of of a common heritage and a common story and you being you might have a different

20:04 uh time frame being christian and stuff i'm not sure if you believe in the creationism uh or but i mean how long are we talking uh time frame wise where the fallen angels came and copulated with the human uh females and the nephilim were born so i i am a bit of a christian contrarian and i'll put that on my biography and i think that's on my book as well so um there's a few different ideas as to when this uh happens in terms of the rebellion we certainly know when they went to human females which was you know between was the sixth generation of adam but when the rebellion actually happened because it was the watchers or the

20:51 grigori or the seraphim angels which govern the antediluvian epoch and after the rebellion so a standard sort of understanding from a christian perspective that most people like to do to put a try and put a square peg into a round hole so to speak is they say the rebellion would have happened either just before eden or or just after eden but i would look at it a little bit differently so from a christian contrarian perspective is if i look at what it says in genesis 1 in the days of creation and the eden account and i get into the creation of of the of the humans and the plants and everything it is a distinctly different story than eden and i can't reconcile the two stories as being the same

21:37 so i'm one of those people who does not believe the bible contradicts itself so if that's the case and there are contradictions and that is the case then i believe they're talking about two different stories so there's a gap there in my opinion between day six and the eden account and would also answer who cain married and who he was afraid of and why you had to have a mark and who and where he got his wife from and why he built a city and high walls if there was just him at that point in time starts to answer a whole bunch of different questions if you look at that as being differently and i do have i like to give this out on a lot of shows that if somebody wants to know the differences between genesis 1 and genesis 2 on the creation account then just get a hold of me through my website

22:23 and i'll shoot you an email on it i'll give you that information secondly is you could also look at translating genesis 1 to genesis 1 2 with a gap in it as what christians would call it and again i have a handout on that if people want it so if people say when did the when did the rebellion have i would lean between genesis 1 1 and genesis 1 2 because how you look at the narrative and how you translate that from hebrew it can equally be trans uh translated that um after uh in after in the beginning the the earth became void and formless and i can get into the detail on that if you want but that's a little bit hard on christian

23:08 doctrine here but people want that for a handout i can send it to you so what i don't do is i don't get hung to the 6 000 years between adam and today what i look at is there's two possible gaps there okay okay um hmm and you can get into whatever you feel like getting into that that you know the more info the better but um uh so so when the fallen angels actually came down and i don't i know i'm going back again um and we'll get to uh the very end here with talking about the end of days and uh you know what's going on there but when they actually came down and copulated with the the humans i'm they they took this form this reptilian form you're saying when they were uh born and

23:57 um so is is this the same that we're talking with the giants are they the same thing yes so they had the the original giants had um faces of a viper and so if you can imagine these elongated skulls that people in this genre will talk about and there's two different types of elongated skulls one is is that's a human size that's been banded to give you that shape to emulate what a nephilim would look like but then there's these other ones that have about twice the cranium uh volume right and they also don't have that suture that connects our human skull together so they're a completely different sort of animal so you can imagine the snake-like

24:45 huge skull and they had slanted eyes and eyes that glowed they had high cheekbones and they had protruding chins protruding chins and thin lips and if you want to get a bit of a glimpse of what that might look like is go to a king cut museum and there's lots of them on uh on display all the time whether it's in america or canada or or england or wherever and or look up and and go on the internet and get a picture of uh to tut commons uh father akhenaten and that is circa 1250 bc and so this is way after with diluted bloodlines and you're seeing a

25:30 snake-like face so you can met you can imagine what this looked like and they also had long necks and anakin which are a race of giants in the old testament after the flood the definition for an act or anakin is a long neck so they also had these long necks and secondly what also they looked like is they also had very white ruddy skin and they had either for the most part either red hair or blonde hair and if they were red haired they had green eyes and if their blonde hair they had blue eyes of course that goes into this whole aryan mythos as well and all intertwines into that as you peel back that onion or go down that rabbit hole

26:16 and above that these weren't just taller than normal humans like they weren't eight feet tall on the original ones and in fact if you're talking about goliath in the bible and most people look at it as him being about eight feet or just above if you used it at royal cubit because he was a king of gas and all the kings would have used the royal cubit as opposed to the common cubit which they've used to calculate the eight foot size of goliath he would have been more like 11 and a half feet and gog og in the old testament would have been more like 15 feet tall but the original nephilim is thought to be 20 to 40 feet tall so these are monstrous beams and they just weren't tall slender

27:02 they were stocky strong horrible looking beings and if you look at the normal sort of height to breadth ratio of a human it's on average about three to one these ones were about two to one so they're incredibly stocky but as the titans were referred to they were very adept and fleet of foot and so very good at being a warrior and able to dominate humankind with such tremendously overpowering characteristics to them wow so but they were definitely humanoid in appearance two legs two arms um yes okay

27:47 that's why you see like you know even with the egyptian um dynasty why the cobra and the snake is so so popular and in in sumerian mythology the kings were called serpents and the gods were called serpents and you've got all of the serpent mythology that goes through the tisha maya ancient history and back to the toltecs and back to the olmecs and back before the flood and that's why you've got all of the the dragon uh parents of china for all dragons and snakes it doesn't matter where you go it all goes back to the dragons and the fallen angels and the offspring that they had right no no yeah definitely see that in every culture in history so yeah it's uh 100 um but let me ask you a couple questions

28:35 here too and see what uh you have to say about it uh what what happened to the fallen angels once the i mean because they're not around right now i mean there are or are they i mean what actually happened to them did they reassend are they still around in a different form um so some are around and some are imprisoned so all of the ones that did have uh and there and a third of the angels rebelled at the time so there's there's a lot of angels and do you know exactly how many fallen angels there were does it say in the bible exactly no there's i mean there's some guesses at it but i mean we are talking you know i don't

29:22 know whether we're talking billions but one can imagine hundreds of thousands anyways so i mean this was a significant population and somebody may correct me on that but i don't believe there was there's an exact number given anywhere that i've been able to find and certainly not in the bible but what we do know is as a third of them rebelled and there are a lot of them and so the ones that did violate the laws of creation and did have sex with human females they were able to do that but it was a violation against the laws of creation so after the flood those ones were imprisoned in the abyss as well as if anyone's after that because there's only three ways you could have nephilim after the flood one of them is is that there was a second

30:08 incursion if those ones had uh sexual violations against uh humans then they would be in prison as well but not all fallen angels were now in with the in with the uh fallen angels in the abyss are the the worst of the demons but again not all of the demons because again in the new testament you see jesus dealing with demons quite regularly as they possess them and there's a very famous one set of uh demons that are often used in uh horror movies called legion and there's many of them and they were afraid that jesus was going to send them to the abyss before the judgment right so they and and he does and he sends it and

30:53 they go into these pigs and they go off this cliff but um so we have demons and fallen angels that are still impacting the world today well let me just continue to it until they are uh rejoined with uh the angels that will escape out of the abyss that's talked about in revelation in the end time and so they are working with the descendants of the nephilim and the secret societies and the mystical uh religions and the descendants of cain to bring about the end time to this day okay okay interesting interesting for sure uh so you say some of the fallen angels were sent to the abyss and yes um

31:40 there they are kind of together with demons but uh where where exactly did the demons come from in when we talk about the fallen angels and the abyss uh are they what we would uh term um ghosts or uh anything that we kind of connect to on the other side be it site you know no when you're in the abyss you're you're not communicating with anybody and when satan or hell or lucifer however you want to refer to him will be put into the abyss after after armageddon for a thousand years he can no longer influence the earth as well during that thousand year period until he's released

32:27 so who are the demons uh and how does that relate to ghost spirits i can make a very very quick connection there for you okay yeah go ahead so first thing i want people to know from a christian perspective is is that when you die you sleep and you'll be you will sleep and uh until the time of the resurrections and the time of the judgment depending on where you're going to fall on that so it's not the bodyless spirits of humans that we're talking about we're talking about the bodyless spirits of nephilim and particularly the immortal nephilim of the first generation and so as i said earlier their spirits were immortal because they inherited their what the book of enoch which is not in the bible but a very good contextual reference uh to to to learn

33:14 about the nephilim because genesis is very stingy on it is that their bodies weren't immortal and so as time went on their bodies grew old they got injured they got hurt and some of them were were killed but they're and some of them committed suicide to bring on death because they're in so much pain but their spirits did not go to sleep and their spirits are we're not permitted to go into heaven and they're forced to stay in this physical realm so when we see ghosts and things like that that is these bodyless spirits and if you go into greek mythology and if you go into taoism they talk about these ghost

34:00 vagabonds and in taoism and they talk about these hero spirits in um in uh greek mythology in in history and once one of these heroes would die um the people would be uh haunted by this spirit because it was so upset at dying and losing its physical body and that it was still immortal that it would come back and haunt and and uh make the people's lives miserable and that's where the word hero worship comes from it's from the bodyless spirits of these original nephilim who used to rule over these people coming back after their bodies die and so these are the the creatures that also possess humans although

34:46 fallen angels have an ability to possess as well but you would know that particularly in the paranormal term as an avatar because they more or less control as opposed to possess as opposed to a demon possesses because it needs a body and a fallen angel doesn't it can transform into anything that it wants to be okay so they do have power to connect with uh our side right i mean they're so they're not technically totally uh trapped in the abyss well only the ones that are outside the abyss can affect this physical world as i said not all of the demons and not all of the uh fallen angels were locked away in the abyss the ones in the abyss can't communicate with us

35:32 but there's an ongoing effort to always try to get these beings released by the other side and that's how they try and get through with things like portals and things like that they're trying to find a way through to get these out but you can't and who's trying to get them out from the other side in the abyss the other well everybody from the secret societies to uh the mystical religions and they've been trying um right from day one um after after it happened and if you take babel as an account uh most christians will understand the translation of babel as confusion of languages after the people were dispersed but nimrod who was the king of babel and he partnered with a fellow named

36:17 hermes which is really connected here but to keep it sort of short and sweet after the dispersion nimrod goes to chaldea and takes the seven sacred sciences which is absolutely key to understanding the anti-delivery and epoch and understanding what happened at babel and what's going to happen in the end time but he takes these seven sacred sciences that they were redeveloping at babel to chaldea and then the acadians come from uh from the chaldeans and from nimrod as you follow this sort of descendancy so where i'm going with this is babel is also a an acadian word uh and that makes sense when you understand you know the genealogy is where they came from and babs stands for god and l

37:04 i mean that stands for gate or gateway and l stands for god as i covered earlier so one of the things they're trying to build was a pyramid that was going to be a gateway to bring these gods back and i think they were trying to have them recopulate with human females to create more more demigods they gain and so when we look at pyramids again that is again one of those constant sets around the world and in ancient times whether it's a tower which they call the tower of babel in a hebrew translation or a ziggurat or a pyramid they are the same structure and understood to be the same structure in ancient time and it's representative of a mountain and there's if you look at the mountain allegory there are seven

37:50 sacred mountains of the anti-living world where the watchers ruled from some say four but more commonly it's at seven and i know there's even uh some people think there was nine civilizations before the flood but generally it's four to seven and these uh seven mountains uh are very very important because again it's part of that whole mythology of these sacred mountains and one of those mountains in in hebrew mythology is where and as recorded in the book of enoch is where the fallen angels first went on the first annie deluvian persian they went 200 of them went to mount hermon uh to copulate with these human females and um

38:36 if if you get into uh armenian and into mesopotamian mythology about babel uh because there are many they viewed uh babel as a recreation of mount hermon and why did they have to go to the the mountains to to copulate into uh you know they didn't always i mean but that's where the first incursion happened but as i say mountains are very very important in in mystical religions around the world just as you have the uh the gods of of of olympus as an example the gods used to live on these sacred mountains and rule from there

39:21 okay well may i tell you gary you you've got every time you talk you i've got about seven different questions going you know going in my mind and i'm like oh i love talking about this oh my god it's like which one should i go to first if i talk about this it's gonna take us off course but then you know i mean there's just so many things here um man so the pyramids you believe that they're uh that's the way they uh what are your thoughts on the the great pyramids and and why aren't they being used today if it's k if they're capable of being used today yeah and they may not be uh capable of being used today um or the the knowledge it perhaps has been lost

40:06 what we do know though is is there are more than one reason to uh create these pyramids right one was as a possible portal and of course portal was part of the fairy mythology which is all interconnected on this and it's also part of the alien mythology which again is connected in here and the various different rabbit holes that you want to go down so pyramids um are created for the for the most part to honor the gods and and let me back up and and just talk just quickly about these seven sacred sciences these are the knowledge that was taught to adam and eden as what free masonic and secret society documents and doctrines teach and this knowledge was taught to adam

40:52 who later taught it to uh abel and to kane of course kane kills abel and cain is ostracized and then adam also then teaches to seth so you have these two lineages in genesis the cainite lineage and you have the sethium lineage now cain then teaches this this knowledge to his son enoch and again there's two enochs in these two lineages one son of cain one is the holy one that gets raptured to heaven of the sethian line now enoch develops this knowledge to a whole level and develops original sun worshiping religion called mysticism and he also develops a way of keeping this information uh separate and away from the from the poor and away from the

41:39 non-ennobled and so he creates secret societies and initiatory religions to to house all of this and to continue to develop the sciences hence enoch is a significant patriarch to the found founding of masonic societies at that point in time and when we get further into uh this development we learn that the fifth science is called geometry but inside the craft which is secret societies and particularly freemasonry the fifth science is called masonry now these sciences are developed for a number of reasons one is to lead people away from god and into another religion two is to dishonor

42:25 god and not give him respect for being the creator of the universe and creator of all things and three is to honor their paston of gods of the fallen angels and of satan and so they created many megaliths and they take credit within the secret societies of building these anti-deluvian megaliths whether it's stonehenge which again they'll credit inside freemasonry to enoch son of kane and or the pyramids which they also credit to to enoch's knowledge and to the religion and the the masonic societies that they developed and so these were to not only honor the gods um but to also dishonor god and

43:12 they will also write that some of these were like the pyramids in egypt specifically were erected to honor a society that they knew was going to be wiped out by the first apocalypse of the apocalypse of water with the floods they knew it was coming and they built these megaliths so that their society would not be forgotten and what's so very important about these sacred sciences and these secret societies and how they partnered to corrupt the whole world is that they raised their level of technology and society to a level that according to their records was as great or greater than what we have today and so when we talk about linking and prophecy the days of noah to the end

43:58 times we're talking about a significant society that was able to do things that we can't even do today aka just the manifestation of these megaliths or pyramid structures or temples and things that we see around the world and below the sea or machu picchu or wherever you want to go with this to a level of technology and engineering that we can't do today wow yeah well and again yeah a million questions but uh we'll we'll eventually get to the end times here that we'll you know we'll get to that we may not tonight who knows i don't we will we will i definitely want to talk about it because we'll get to that point but um amanda's a couple questions but we'll

44:43 stick with the secret societies i guess since we're talking about that um or or maybe let me ask this question uh the nephilim the descendants of the nephilim today uh they are here right and in what form are they here right so um in the antediluvian epoch they usurped the kingships and they were the ones who enforced uh the mystical religions and the sciences and and and the violence and everything that came on and then after the flood they gained get control of the kingships and through these dynast kingship dynasties these bloodlines and descendants continue all throughout time and so early on and just to give a few names of the people who may know a little bit about history

45:29 might recognize that you might refer to it as the matani dynasty in the middle east mesopotamian you certainly have the nimrod acadian dynasties coming out of there you have the hittite dynasty which is a little bit lower level in terms of the noble bloodlines but the amalekite dynasty and the egyptian dynasty those were the big ones right right and that that that came down and then all of the kingships for the most part came from these families uh ongoing and they intermarried to keep their bloodlines pure and so when we get into modern times you're talking about diluted bloodlines because they still have to take in over the millennia some sort of not totally

46:15 outside bloodlines but let's just say something like um lady dai who was descended from the stewards she was presented as a commoner as an example and she marries prince charles but she's not totally outside the bloodlines but far enough away so that you keep this introduction of of blood so that you don't get genetic defects and particularly o negative tends to be one that they like to match up to to match up with a heavy rh negative as most people tend to believe that the royals or the royal bloodlines have so if you follow the royal families most of those dynasties have these bloodlines and there are some very powerful people who aren't on thrones that are also part of this sort of descendancy

47:01 and so they again when you get in into peeling back the onion on this and they are on record and they are have kept track of the genealogies that link them all the way back not only to the flood but before the flood okay okay so so the bloodlines have mixed enough over the years that you know you really just looking at them can't you could never tell that they you are the descendants yeah yeah but they do believe that they still have enough in the blood that either through forward engineering or backward engineering you could create a new super race which is what the nazis were talking about doing uh only through backward engineering and trying to get

47:46 racial purity and something called real i don't know whether you're familiar with that term braille but it's erosion rosicrucian term because again secret societies are always interrelated on everything that we're going to talk about just as their mystical religions are with the nephilim and what braille is is a potency in the blood and some people think it's the rh negative bloodline that will sponsor a future race of super beings and it's also a belief in a doctrine that's based in race purity and bloodlines and so when the nazis were talking about creating the the super race the aryan race they're that's because they overlaid on um all of their religion something that they expanded on

48:32 from theosophy which comes out of the gnostic religions this uh sort of germanic nordic overlay in this flavor on it and they actually take their uh descendancy back to aryans who they believe came from thule which is the sort of aryan atlantis just to connect that and they believe they were ruled by giants and so that's what they were trying to connect in their belief system because this stuff is all connected and it happens over and over and over and over so whether or not it's the bloodline that is the marker uh you your audience may have heard some other terms out there that will also identify how they believe they can identify themselves and why they continue to intermarry just as uh families of the pseudoblue bloods in the

49:18 u.s they tend to intermarry like the rockefellers with other uh carnegie families and morgan families and they they work for the rothschilds and they also intermarried into there this is part of that whole sort of belief system that they intermarry to keep the bloodlines pure and keep renewing so you might also hear the term coming out from them called the gene of isis yes and this is this is the belief that they have where uh they believe that they all have in this uh superior race this gene that comes from isis because isis is is is one of the mother goddesses uh that they raised the human females to uh in the pantheons uh to uh to be a goddess but it's sort

50:05 of like the human female that was married to uh to create these giants and so that's also what they say is the root word for genesis as well now this is reflected in another term that they call the spark of the divine and that's why in these polytheists and gnostic religions they have to have the world come together with one government and one universal religion so that they can bring the spark of the divine together and evolve into gods they call it vibrating to another level of consciousness this has another allegory that you can track and connect back to secret societies and a lot of americans will be quite familiar with a couple speeches george bush senior gave and junior as well gave a couple

50:51 but particularly on the new world order after the uh um i think i'm not sure was that the his inaugural initiation or was around the gulf war but anyways he talked about a thousand points of light in the new world order in the same speech a thousand points of light is is talking about uh this gene of isis the spark of the divine or this bloodline this is the language they speak in and when you understand their language you'll understand that they put things in front of us all of the time and they talk about things all of the time because they know most people don't understand what they're talking about exactly no and that's the the group with the owl you know i'll just say that but um

51:36 do the descendants actually know that they are descended from the nephilim are they aware of it well the ones that are part of the uh the the more pure bloodlines yeah they're told right from the birth and they they try and perpetuate this a lot of people think that they have a changeling quality and changing the lizard people and think like things like that there's that's a lot of speculation on that aspect and there's nothing to nothing to prove that but they know they know their genealogies and that's why uh and i've got one posting on there about uh prince prince charles he actually takes his uh his genealogy back through uh vlad the impaler and dracula which is again all part of this mix yes

52:23 and that and most people don't realize that the house of windsor is part of the german hanoverian line in that the hanoverians are very much connected to an organization that was reassembled in 1408 as i recall called uh ordo draconis or the sarcani rand which is to recreate the uh the pursuits of thoth which was the uh the seven sacred scientists to continue the development of that and the religion but more importantly to keep the dragon bloodlines on the thrones and of course glad the impaler was uh it was initiated into that organization and his father was vlad ii and so he was known as dracul which is

53:10 uh romanian for a dragon and we put the a on it that son of a dragon so when we talk about a dragon allegory and a fairy allegory those are very very important not only from an allegorical and bloodline perspective but also how they play out in in real life throughout the ages wow so dragons uh actually existed and uh roamed the earth at one time yeah very very interesting um okay so so getting back to the secret societies um why what is their purpose and why are they trying to uh get the ones that are in the abyss the nephilim who are imprisoned uh ow

53:55 what kind of plan are they i mean there's so many secret societies we you know like we you just said but uh what is their end goal uh with this well their their end goal is is to as we'll see it play out is to bring about the end time and introduce their uh their false messiah which will be the dragon messiah but you have to sort of go back a little bit and say okay so why why would they even want to do that so they go to the title of my book in terms of what they're trying to do enslave humankind or wipe us from the face of the earth i think they would keep enough around to serve them as what uh the blackheads did for the gods and the

54:41 anunnaki in sumerian mythology but we're considered lower level beings and mundane so we're only there to uh to serve them in terms of how how they would view things and the reason why is is that this goes right back as to what we're talking about in in the angelic rebellion and then what outflows from that and so everything that happens to humankind from adam on is is is directly interconnected with the angelic rebellion and so what happens is with adam he's created as a vehicle to uh raise human in the humans in the future world to above angels and that's why

55:26 it'll say in the new testament that we're going to judge angels in in the future world probably the fallen ones and for the things that they've done to us over the thousands of years and so the fallen angels they take this as even more of an insult and what they were hoping to get out of the rebellion was they knew they know because they were around god they knew that they probably couldn't defeat god in fact they knew they couldn't defeat god when you get about get right down to it so why do it what they're hoping for as it comes out in fairy allegory which is really significant is that they're hoping to have an agnostic religions which it's very much connected to the fairies as well they were hoping

56:12 that they would show enough cause and determination that god would permit them to have their own realm a different universe where lucifer or hell or satan whichever however you want to call him could rule in that universe but that's not going to happen and so when adam was created to be raised above them at some point in time they decided to take revenge on humankind and prevent that from happening a to either support their case or b to uh just ensure that they're going to reap destruction on the people that god had created to be raised above them and so that's why you see the first revenge and i'll cover that off in detail in chapter 13 of the book it's called lucifer's revenge is

56:59 uh lucifer goes into eden and either becomes a serpent or avatars through the the serpent or coaches the serpent to have adam and eve even then adam eat from the tree of evil so that they could be like god and have the knowledge of good and evil uh and that god is preventing them from from uh having that knowledge and so that's the first revenge and that's the fall of adam and he gets ostracized out the second revenge is the uh genesis 6 incident with the fallen angels creating nephilim and they're there to usurp government kingship and enslave

57:45 humankind and have them revolt against god and there or justify uh the rebellion or at least fight with them enough numbers to lead as many as they can astray and of course that happens in the antediluvian epoch and therefore we have the flood and if we look at genesis 3 connecting some of all of this we learned that right after eden you have a very odd set of verses where it's talking about the serpent and eve and that the offspring of the serpent are going to be at the at the odds all throughout this age with the offspring of eve because she's the mother of all living as she's called there and so this is has been going all the time what they're

58:30 trying to do is prevent humankind from being elevated in the future world and so they want to bring on the end time and here's the thing the demons know they can't win and the fallen angels know that they can't win but the humans don't know they can't win and so they are deceiving through secret societies and the mystical religions that they actually can win and this is that duelist belief that you see coming out it doesn't matter whether you're talking science fiction or gnosticism or eastern religions where it's good versus evil and everything's in balance yin and yang or in star wars where you have the good force and the evil force right and the force is the universal life force which is mysticism so they believe that if they if they can get humans to fight for their

59:17 freedom in the end time they're going to try and convince them that humans can can win but they can't and that's the great deception that they're doing with all who follow them because after the resurrection after the resurrection of jesus it was all over right and the reason why it was all over is is because they didn't anticipate the resurrection and so jesus in first peter goes down to the abyss and talks to uh the angels the fallen angels in there and the worst of the demons that we talked about a little bit earlier and basically tells them and this is while he's still in the grave and he's just about to rise on on the sunday that your fight is over with the resurrection

1:00:02 humankind will be raised and we're going to accumulate this so that we can fulfill the number of the gentiles and it's going to be on god's time and when the restrainer is removed we'll bring this to a head in the end time wow okay um so again though i mean if if they cannot overthrow god i mean if it's not possible uh what is what why is are the secret societies trying to get them out from the abyss that's why you have to go back to what i what i said is is that the demons and the fallen angels whom they speak to in these secret societies at least at the rosicrucian level and higher they're deceived that to to believe that

1:00:47 they can win so if you look at what let's say um albert pike talks about in morals and dogmas and i don't know whether you're familiar with that book or your audience is probably they are but he talks about uh uh lucifer which is the god and the great architect of the of freemasonry and adani and he talks about lucifer is god and adani is god and that's what they call the god of the bible is adani and they are equal right right so that they're teaching through the secret societies and the mystical religion because they're one that god is no more powerful than any of the other angels and he is the evil god and the god of

1:01:33 oppression and that lucifer is the god of light and they are the children of light and the children of knowledge and the evil god of the bible as they call them tries to keep people enslaved in the physical world and in ignorance whereas lucifer provides knowledge and is going to let them evolve to gods that's what they're told essentially in a very quick nutshell in in mysticism okay i mean i get that side of it uh you know between you know the fallen angels and and lucifer and satan but uh us as in real human beings on the planet who are in charge of these secrets societies are are they just using

1:02:19 us to get them out or do the people in charge of whatever secret society is attempting believe that they can really use them for a purpose well everybody that is in these secret societies and in these mystical religions are humans and the descendants of the nephilim that you know look like humans they actually believe they're going to win okay so we're talking the secret societies actually are a majority of the descendants of the nephilim themselves so um only at the higher level so okay okay so if you look at freemasonry just to explain it because again you said there are many but i can i can give a little bit of infrastructure here so

1:03:06 freemasonry is one of the societies that most people are familiar with but it's not one of the higher ones so you have a lot of people you have to be invited to freemasonry and after that you're going to be initiated into the doctrines of of of mysticism over time even though as long as you believe in a god it doesn't matter which one you can join if you're invited so there's going to be non-ennobled people and there's going to be some purebloods in in these organizations as well and then as you are initiated through the various degrees 33 in the scottish rite or third degree in new york right you rise to the level of third degree york 33rd degree uh freemasonry which is

1:03:51 at depth level right right at that level you're in in you are considered enlightened and you are told the secrets that'll overturn supposedly every every preconceived notion as they like to boast and that you are initiated into luciferian doctrines you understand who your god is at that point in time now the ones that show the most talent uh and the other ones that are part that have some bloodlines they're going to go into the illuminati group right so when you're illuminated you now move into the illuminati and from the most brightest there but most likely the ones with more bloodlines or more noble bloodlines you'll go up to the rose accretion level and at the rosicrucian level you're going to have probably half of those

1:04:39 that are very very very very pure bloods representing the families uh well in the rosicrucian level and underneath the rosicrucian is where most of the most of the strings are are going to be uh pulled but above the rose of christians you've got like the committee of 300 um and then you have the grand druid council which narrows it down then you have the council of 33 and then you have the 33 families and so when you're if you're talking about builder burgers or if you're talking about um bohemian grove or if you're talking about skull and bones they all operate underneath the rosicrucian level so for example um skull and bones uh would be a uh

1:05:26 illuminati reporting uh organization right just as the road scholarships would be that's part under the illuminati but they still report to the rosicrucian order right right right yeah very um okay so well that did i explain that well enough in terms of no asking about i'm telling you i'm trying to wrap my head around all of this but um uh i i think what we really need to get down to too is uh who is satan lucifer uh what have you who is he first of all well he is one of the greatest beings uh ever created by god and um was charged with great responsibilities but

1:06:15 according to the bible and to other accounts uh whether it's gnostics or whether it's from the popular uh or in fairy mythology or wherever you go there's there's a lucifer counterpart and so pride enters in uh to his affairs and he rebels um and so he takes a third of the angels with them so this is who lucifer is he is a cherub and he's also seraphim and he's also called uh the devil and he's also called the great serpent and he's also called the dragon right right so he has all of these uh these labels and he's also known as the adversary and he's the one that i believe is permitted to continue to do

1:07:01 what he's doing because i mean god could at any point in time stop lucifer or the fallen angels but he permits them to continue to test humans after the fall right so there's a concept in here that people need to understand when we're talking about these immortal beings because they can't die which are the angels and uh something called free choice so when god created uh all of the beings uh and including the angels and the many orders of angels they were created immortal and they don't have ability to to die so they didn't have a choice in that whatsoever to accept immortality and to follow the laws of god the only free choice they were able to express was to

1:07:47 follow god or rebel and a third of them rebuilt so when humans are created they are not created immortal they're going through this process of pre-choice to choose god or not and to choose to follow those ways and to choose immortality and then the ones who do not they will die and they will die in the second death except for those humans who take the mark of the beast uh they don't get that luxury and immortals can't die and we're told that they're going to burn in in in the in the fire for forever and ever and so um they once they've lost the rebellion and they're not going to get their other realm all they're going to do is is destroy as many and as much as they can until their

1:08:34 time is finished wow okay so so we're i mean i'm asking you simple questions kind of but there's deeper answers too um uh lucifer satan i mean uh hell is he here on earth um spirit form uh human well he can take he can take any form that he wants uh he is i mean anybody any being that comes from uh the heavenly realm or the spiritual route they are spirit in i'm trying to get gary back here let's see if he uh answers it looks like it may be having the same kind of trouble as yesterday but somebody told me that skip went out

1:09:21 nationwide and there's they were saying it could be because of the hurricane or something like that but uh yeah i think the same thing is happening dave and chat is saying uh oh welcome back um yeah i don't know man uh we will see uh this was such an interesting uh show that you know what let's let me try one more time and see if i can get uh gary back because man i do want to continue to talk to him because man this is some interesting stuff that's for sure um here we go i'm gonna call

1:10:06 it looks like he's on again so we should be able to get a hold of him but man yeah the the nephilim gary i think i think i'm back yeah uh i don't know what happened there uh maybe skype again it's uh well especially when you talk about lucifer anything can happen you know what yeah i think we were talking about that right at that time so who knows that was very very odd but you are back so we can i am back yeah sorry about that i don't know if it was a connection a skype issue but nevertheless you're back and i was going on here saying um you know how how many different questions how many different directions we can go with this and yeah i'm trying to keep it uh

1:10:52 on par with uh the book and all that and and what you're what we're trying to get to when we get to the the end time uh things here but yeah i think you're asking terrific questions oh thanks uh well my god i i i could throw in a hundred other questions but it's kind of off top off topic a little bit because i mean i you know the whole the whole issue with the god and and you know casting out the angels and actually letting them do what they want to do uh is just uh you know i try to wrap my head around that and why he would allow uh what goes on to go on um and that leads me to a question too what who are we uh and uh earth isn't the only place that there's life unless you believe that

1:11:39 that's the truth i mean uh the universe as a whole you know i mean god there's got to be life you know everywhere i mean you know teami i would believe um and if that's the case are the fallen angels everywhere or are they just isolated to this planet that we're on right now um you may have a totally different you know way of viewing all of this yeah i think i think that there's a possibility that there could be life uh you know around the universe or there may not be i think you could go right either way on that sort of argument from a christian perspective and certainly when we talk about lucifer and job i mean he's talked about traveling to and fro in this whole physical realm which

1:12:26 includes the universe and doing his business so one presumes there's things going on um you know god can have as many creations as he wants from a christian perspective right um right so yeah i wouldn't i would never try and get into god's shoes and say he can do this he can do that i mean if he if he is who i believe he is who my faith says he is then he can do anything he wants because he's an impotent so there could be there could be other um civilizations that you know we're not aware of or another possibility is as a lot of christians believe um i think there's a mix in here that's a little bit greater than what christians will talk about as they look at the alien phenomena the alien mythos as

1:13:11 just a demonic and um angelic deception and i think um it's probably a little bit greater than i think they're i think they're involved on it and i think that uh the alien uh deception or um revelation depending on how it's played out is going to have a significant part in the end time to help bring the world together and unite as they do in all science fiction once they find out we're not alone in the universe but there's also an aspect that i think goes back to pre-history that we have to be very very aware of and that's why it's for me it's it's important to learn about pre-history because of course if we go back into prehistory and we get into how they corrupted the whole earth

1:13:58 not only did they corrupt was the earth prep because of violence which is the sort of standard theology that comes out of churches and right and uh teaching is it was a greater corruption of that because if you remember that great technology and the sciences we were talking about i'm talking about the corruption of the whole world i'm talking about the corruption of plants with changing the genome and cross pollination and whatever else you want to do to change the plants i'm talking about the same thing going on with uh animals and humans in terms of dna manipulation and copulating with other species and creating these absolutely fabulous if i can use that term creatures of mythology and religion whether or not

1:14:43 you're talking about you know centaurs or cyclops or goat-like animal hybrids and on and on and on in prehistory about these animals i believe that this was all going on and when we get into fairy mythology i think there's even more interesting creations because most people don't know that fairy in the fairy mythology in the mesos it falls into four categories that is very much connected to one other aspect i didn't cover off

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