0:00 Manchester United have been a mess for over a decade now. But here's something nobody really talks about. United being bad has become a business. >> There's no excuse for those 11 players out on that pitch. They are 13 14 players that have played in that game because they were absolutely pathetic. Last year of your best player up Bruno [music] who people have sat on here going he's great. He's the greatest. He's a great leader. Blah blah blah. But you know what? [music] People have the right to be wrong. And no, he's [laughter] not. >> Why are people seeing Bruno, Xerxy, Rasmus, and everyone else turn up for training and going they're looking lean? You're not buying a [ __ ] piece of beef. We finished 15. >> And if he looks himself in the mirror, if Martinez looks himself, all them players, if they look themselves in the mirror, and that's not good enough. They need to show show more. >> Every embarrassing defeat, every bit of drama at Old Trafford creates millions
0:46 of views, endless podcasts, and a whole lot of money for the people talking about it. From former United players to pundits to even YouTubers like myself, there's been an entire industry dedicated to the fall of Manchester United. So, when so many people are making money from United being terrible, does anyone really want the club to get better? Manchester United have reached a point where they're more of a content farm than an actual football club. Just look at the number of former United players who now have their own podcasts, YouTube channels, or regular spots on television. You got Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Paul Scholes, Wayne Rooney, Nikki
1:33 Butt, Rio Ferdinand, the list goes on. It's funny. Every single time one of these guys talks about football from a tactical perspective or in general, they inadvertently make Ferguson's resume and legacy look so much more impressive because how the hell did he win so much with these guys? Do >> you know what I thought was really interesting about the Spurs Chelsea game? It's the first time ever I've seen Cole Palmer's forehead. [laughter] >> Of course, former players are always going to have opinions about their old teams. That's normal. But with United, it almost feels like the former legends are constantly looking for another reason to pile on the players or to criticize the manager or talk about how far the club has fallen. How many times has Gary Neville gone on an emotional rant on Sky Sports after a heavy United
2:19 loss? How many times have we seen Roy Keane talk about character and just putting in a tackle on someone on the overlap? You have to wonder how much of that is genuine concern versus just good business. Because the reality is United being bad is incredibly profitable. We've already seen this business model work with Arsenal fan TV. Back when Arsenal were struggling under Arson Venger and then later Una Emery, their embarrassing defeats [music] became entertainment for millions of people. You had fans screaming at the camera, calling for managers TO BE SACKED. >> THAT IS A [ __ ] >> grown ass men were having complete meltdowns after games and it was generating ridiculous number of views. The formula was a money factory. The worse Arsenal played, the angrier the fans became. The angrier the fans became, the more people watched. And the more people watched, the more money
3:04 these channels made. Failure was literally creating success. And now we're seeing something very similar happen at Manchester United. You have someone like Mark Goldbridge who built a massive audience and even sold his company for millions off the back of just trashing United. I'm sure he talks about other things on his channel, but his brand is literally the angry United fan. People tune into his streams to see his reactions to a loss. Not much else. But now you got former United legends entering the space, which never happened with Arsenal. Rather than just appearing on television once or twice a week, these guys created their own shows. They have their own brands. They will talk about practically every little thing happening at Old Trafford. You know how many times I've tuned into the Overlap podcast just for these guys to talk about the class of 92 or the old days under Fergie. Neville launched the Overlap back in 2021 and since then it's become one of the biggest football
3:50 podcasts around. But he's taken things even further, buying a network of YouTube channels from Mark Goldbridge, whose channel had built an audience of more than 3.7 million subscribers. I mean, that's pretty crazy. You've got Gary Neville, one of the greatest players in Manchester United's history. Someone who was already a big name in the media space, expanding his media empire by getting involved in the same content business that made Mark Goldbridge famous. If you guys didn't know, Goldbridge literally hated Gary Neville. The streets aren't going to forget, Gary. The streets AREN'T GOING TO FORGET, GARY. You think you're a top class pundit? You've ruined yourself. It's the hypocrisy. Where why wasn't he sticking up for Vanal or Gary or or or or Mourinho like this? I feel like Princess Leah saying to Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan Kenobi, help us Obi-Wan Kenobi, your only hope. Gary Neville, power to
4:38 the people, you know, makes out his vote, his labor, and you know, he's all about working people. Hell, mate. Forget your regeneration project. 450 people have lost their job. Come on. If this was the Tories taking jobs two years ago, you would shut up about it on Twitter. Come on. If you are about the working person in Manchester, come on. Now is the time, Gary. Redeem yourself. And there are so many clips of him trashing the overlap and the former United players opinions. But money talks. Now that same guy is appearing alongside Wayne Rooney on Stick to United. It was actually on that podcast that Rooney claimed that Michael Carrick's players needed a firework up their ass. >> These players are not doing that. I'd love to go in that dress room. I'd love to walk in that dress room, [ __ ] sit them all down, and say, "What the [ __ ] are you doing?
5:24 >> What type this is?" >> Do you think you use a deserved to wear that [ __ ] without walking around the pitch? [ __ ] firework ass cuz they're not doing anything. >> Meanwhile, you have Roy Keane who is questioning how Carrick and his coaching staff were still even employed, saying they were lucky to have their jobs on the Overlap podcast. But Michael Carrick, his coaches staff, Johnny Woodgate, Holland, they're still lucky boys to be involved at Man United, but [music] they have to they have to grow up here and start getting results on Saturday. >> The line between former football legends and content creators and influencers is becoming thinner and thinner. Rio Ferdinand has his own podcast where he mainly talks about United and sucks off Ronaldo. Now, to be fair to Rio, he's less critical than the other people I have mentioned, but he's still part of
6:09 the media space of former United players constantly giving their opinions on the current United team. Paul Scholes and Nikki Butt have their own podcast called The Good, the Bad, and the Football. And before the 2026 Manchester Derby, these guys decided to spend some time talking about how badly Holland was going to destroy Landro Martinez, but joked that Holland would pick Martinez up and just run with him. While Paul Skull suggested he throw the Argentine into the net after scoring. >> Martinez against >> Martu back for that. >> Pick Martinez up and run with him. [laughter] >> It'd be like you see you know see a dad after school. >> It's school then throw him >> running down the road like with a little that's what >> I take it back everyone. He's got a point. >> Now I want to make it very clear. There's nothing wrong with making a joke. On this channel we roast every single player and every single club maybe except Messi cuz he's a beast. But
6:55 there's a very big difference between me, a random YouTuber criticizing somebody, and somebody like Paul Scholes, who was one of the greatest central midfielders the Premier League has ever seen. The weight of his words are much heavier than Pet Talk Sports. Like, imagine being Landro Martinez. You're preparing for one of the biggest games of your season against your biggest rival, and two legends of your own club are publicly making jokes about how you're going to get embarrassed. Now, the funniest thing about all of that was United ended up beating City 2-0, and Martinez was actually one of the best players on the pitch. You [music] know, some pundits were talking about the fact that, oh, Landro Martinez is up against Erling Harland. How will that be? Maybe [music] he will struggle. But at the end of the day, it was a clean sheet today and Harland got subbed off as well. It must have been really satisfying as a center back. >> You know, people always can't do whatever they want is something that I can control.
7:42 What I can [music] only do is to show on the pitch. >> After the game, Martinez was asked about those comments and he wasn't happy. He told schools that if he had something to say, come say it to his face. Even when Arsenal were terrible, you never saw their former players coming on platforms and trashing them. And that's what makes this United situation so weird. When your entire business revolves around talking about Manchester United's problems, what happens when those problems go away? Think about it. A boring 2-nil United win is not going to generate anywhere near the same attention as an embarrassing defeat followed by Gary Neville or Roy Keane absolutely tearing into the players. Now, United are so big that even when they win, you'll get a ton of views and a ton of traction. Just look at my channel when I was praising them during Carrick's unbelievable run as the interim manager. But if they play bad, oh boy, you've got podcasts, YouTube
8:28 clips, tweets, whatever you want for the next few weeks. And that creates a strange situation where the people who claim to care about Manchester United are also benefiting financially from the club being a complete disaster. Now, I'm not saying all of these former players are secretly sitting at home hoping United lose every weekend, but you just can't ignore the financial incentives. The worse United get, the more valuable their criticism become. I do think some of them might secretly enjoy it because it makes their legacy look better. It makes their achievements and success with the club look that much more impressive considering the downfall. Just my opinion, though. What's crazier is that Ruben Amarim actually touched on this problem before he was sacked. He questioned whether the club needed to change if people couldn't handle the constant criticism from figures like Gary Neville. >> I understand everything. I understand that Gary Neville is critical about
9:15 everything. So I understand that part and then I understand that we are not fighting. We are in the moment that we are doing the the worst season in history. Um Manchester City won everything in the past this season is struggling. So we are in not in the best moments to give the best spectacle to to to every fans. >> Tenhog had similar complaints. In an interview with the Athletic, he explained that while he personally had a good relationship with Neville and Ferdinand, some of his players really struggled with the constant criticism. They would see what these former legends were saying about them get frustrated and let it affect their play on the pitch. And Tenhog made a really good point. He was saying that if these guys have so much experience and wisdom, why don't they use that to help the younger players instead of trying to constantly
10:01 bring them down? When Carrick was asked about how he deals with the constant noise coming from former United players, his answer was that he doesn't listen to it. >> The outside is is not um anything for me to focus on. It's it's I know what we can affect. >> Carrick explained that he actively avoids all the outside noise because in his own words, it doesn't really help in any way. And he made a point that I think is pretty important. He said that what actually matters to him is what the supporters think. the people who travel to the games, sit in the stands, the guys spending their hard-earned money supporting this circus show, not what some former player has to say on his podcast that week. That's now three different United managers, Tenhog, Amarim, and Carrick, who have all raised concerns about the constant criticism and noise surrounding the club. That's three managers with different ideas, different personalities, and different experiences at United. I mean, Carrick
10:46 is literally boys with a lot of these guys, yet all of them have struggled with the same problem. And maybe that should tell us something. Now, nobody is saying that United should be protected from criticism. They've been terrible for years. So, it's completely justified to call them out on the things that they have done wrong. But there's a difference between criticizing a struggling football club and building an entire business around making sure everyone knows just how bad that club is. Now, to be fair, Gary Neville himself has admitted that he might have gone too far with his criticism over the years. And [music] I, to be fair, came away from selecting the manager of Sulford after three years of getting it wrong. I did you know I think I think I sacked two managers in one [music] season and I reckon the season I can't go on television and start talking about sacking managers when and [music] make sorry be responsible for sacking managers if I'm getting it wrong at my own football club for five [music] six
11:31 years we were really successful we went up the leagues won four promotions and won the EFL trophy [music] but in that sixth seventh and eighth years I got it wrong and I had to move myself away from it three years of getting it wrong means that you're getting it wrong and you have to step away from it >> speaking on Rioance podcast Neville explained that covering ing United is actually harder for him than covering any other team because of how much he cares about the club. He even admitted that over the last decade, he might not have always got the balance right when criticizing United. >> United's definitely the hardest games for me to do to get the balance right because there's a lot of criticism comes my comes my way if I over egg [music] the enthusiasm and there's a lot of criticism comes my way from United fans if I sort of get it a little bit like if they feel I'm not sort [music] of getting that sort of sentiment right. But, you know, if you said to me, "Don't cover United Games for Sky. Let me just
12:17 sit in the stand and [music] watch them." I'd say, "Yeah, all day long." >> But I don't I do I still do the games. Um, >> yeah, it's difficult >> with people like Neville and But they believe that their criticism comes from a good place because they're so passionate about the club. They love United so much that they want to see them do well. But loving Manchester United doesn't automatically mean everything you say about the club is helpful. And I think that's the point Tenhog and Amarine were trying to make. There is a massive difference between criticizing a player because you want him to improve and turning every mistake he makes into another week of content. Shout out Harry Maguire. [music] >> Because whether these former players know it or not, their word carries an enormous amount of weight. When Gary Neville or Roy King goes on television and destroys a United player, that's not
13:04 the same as me making fun of Garnacho or saying Brian Abumo looks like Mighty Mouse from UFC. Those guys are club legends. someone these younger players probably grew up watching. When that criticism gets repeated across YouTube, Tik Tok, Twitter, and every football podcast imaginable, it becomes almost impossible for the players to escape. Back in the day, a player might have a bad game, get a terrible rating in the newspaper, and that was pretty much it. But now, one bad performance and you've got Gary Neville, Roy Keane, and about 50 other outlets spending the entire week talking about how terrible you are. Like, you might pull up Twitter and see your own fail comp. During United's 3-0il defeat to Bournemouth, Neville spent practically the entire game tearing into the players on Sky Sports. But the fiveminute monologue at the start of his press conference, who is he talking to there? You don't need to remind any Manchester United fan [music] about Sir Matt Busby or Wayne Rooney or
13:49 Sir Alex Ferguson or Ryan Giggs. You don't have to remind any Manchester United fan about personality or humility or sacrifice or character. They know what it looks like. So he was talking directly to his players in his dressing room or I think like now right now he's probably lost connection with [music] and probably lost a lot a lot of love for in the last few weeks because to be I I said it at Fulham a few weeks ago and I think at the time people thought it was a very harsh statement. I [music] said it was the worst 15 minutes of football that I've seen in sort of 354 years [music] because I I I'd not seen the lack of running in a Manchester United team to that level. And since that day I think it's [music] got just worse and worse and worse. But apparently 90 minutes of criticism wasn't enough because immediately after the game he went and recorded another podcast from Old Trafford. And this time he was questioning the player's
14:35 professionalism. >> There's no work ethic. They've switched off. They don't really press you. If they do, it's half-hearted. Um [music] the defenders are not good enough as a unit or individually and that's it. So you you should beat Manchester United right now. I mean they're 16th in the league for a reason. And the reason they got seven points from eight matches is because they're easy and comfortable to play against. >> Neville claimed that some United players weren't taking their career seriously. According to him, there were certain players that weren't going to bed at the right time, weren't eating properly, and weren't thinking about Manchester United as much as they should. >> There's a few of them aren't that professional cuz a couple of them, I live in Manchester, they're not that professional, some of them. So, I've got no time for them. You know what I mean?
15:21 There's a few of them that don't go to bed at the right time, don't eat the right things, don't think about Manchester United every single minute of every single day, that are not living and breathing this football club as they should be, like professionals should. And why? Why? Cuz it's gone to their heads, but they still walk around like they're King William. They're not. They're nothing. >> And look, he's probably right. Some of these players are probably not being professional enough, but you have to wonder how helpful it is to make these accusations publicly, especially when you're someone as influential as Gary Neville. Now, Manchester United have been so bad that they've created a graveyard of victims, especially when it comes to manager. To see all the victims of the club, all the managers who
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