Dub Talk Presents: Summer at the Movies (Season 8): Pokemon the 3rd Movie: Spell of the Unown

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0:47 talk summer at the movies a place where all you Pokemon trainers get together get ready to battle and then watch a cute psychological horror film for children I'm your host today Megan and with me is my girl Gigi what up fam how you doing how's how's the weather how's your ABCs it's hot and speaking of ABCs uh we're here to talk about the murder ABCs AKA The Unknown GG how much Pokémon have you ever played in your life um I played the first one and then and I skipped to sword and

1:33 shield okay and then I the newest one too scarlet and violet my my buggy beloved monster um uh so I have played like every Pokemon game on release like a a religious fanatic uh since a childhood so I remember this movie coming out uh and seeing it in theaters back in the day oh my God uh cuz tonight we were talking about Pokémon the Movie 3 spell of the unknown uh basically the bet in my opinion the best Pokemon movie of all time um I just Pokemon the first Pokemon the first movie Defenders over there uh I do love Pokemon the first movie I just

2:19 realized that it's called spell of the unknown and the unknown spell things and they were cast in spells it's all up in your mouth fine G today I learned but uh so I remember when the gold and silver games came out because this takes place in in jodo and that is when the unknown um were introduced mhm all godamn 26 of these stupid [ __ ] things uh because they spelled the alphabet um I want to I want to preface this Gigi by the unknown or some of the most useless po Pokemon of all time you would think they could like spell out attacks like kill or murder or block no

3:08 no they only know one move and that move is hidden power and it's absolutely terrible and yet this movie makes them out to be one of the single most threatening forces on the face of planet Earth why are we here what is this time line we are here because we are here to talk about Pokémon the third movie the unknown which this is not the first time we have talked about a Pokémon movie on Summer of the movies but this is specifically the first time we' have talked about a specific dubbing Studios uh work on the Pokemon franchise oh are we are we talking about the Sanji uh eats a lollipop instead of smoking a cigarette Studio oh yes we are but first let me give you a summary of Pokémon the

3:55 third movie Young Molly hail was a 5-year-old girl who lost her father to the unknown a strange group of Pokémon who can make a person's dreams reality using their psychic energy one day she accidentally releases the unknown and they begin to answer Molly's wishes first by creating ente a legendary lionlike Pokemon that is a lion dog a Ann uh a legendary lionlike Pokémon who Molly then thinks is her father because he would always pretend to be ente while he played with her Molly then feels lonely because she has no mother so ente decides to kidnap Ash's mother and forces her to become mollies Ash Brock and Misty must try then try to save Ash's mom dilia and Molly and in the process they must also find a way to stop the unknown from turning the town of Greenfield into a bizarre Crystal

4:41 Wasteland also Team Rocket is there blasting off at the speed of light light surrender now or prepare to fight oh that's right it does Rhyme Jesus Christ can you tell it's been a long time since I've watched anything Pokémon besides the newest ones where they like have the duck oh with quackley and the new the new the new adventures yeah uh we won't talk about that here but I did watch the other one where there's Marne cuz Marne is the best girl and this girl wants to be the best girl and it's not happening [Music] Molly all right so um I don't even know who my Pokemon best girl is but Marne is up there marne's

5:29 first sure number one see I um my favorite Pokemon game character of all time is n so and I have his nendroid uh but my other special baby oh wait I do have a baby girl in Pokemon who Ryon my [ __ ] little dragon my [ __ ] little dragon gym leader from sword and shield my baby girl yeah okay I get it I get that energy selfie the selfie King yep I get that energy he's my baby girl Megan he just wants selfies and attention that's perfect baby girl material for sure like I have SE I no no we were talking about a four kid dub I'm not

6:14 allowed to make sex jokes anymore uhuh uh which which will lead us yes we will that's a secret tool that what we're saving for later okay um so let's talk about the ADR staff and writing uh yes this is I think the first time we've actively talked about a four kids dub no way really out of all the [ __ ] we've talked about out of all the [ __ ] we've done I think this is the first time we've genuinely talked about like a four kids produced dub we did do I did with step that Yu-Gi-Oh movie oh never mind I take it back this is the second time we've done it yeah cuz you guys did you guys do bridge Beyond times or the newer one uh I don't

7:00 remember God it was so long ago they're all the same to me we did the the one that was really long it was like 2 hours good God no that was the newer one because that was that that wasn't then them cuz that's that's just a different St like it's the shell of what they were okay the new one I mean we talked about a person who we'll also talk about two people who we talk about in here later um but this is the first time like Heyday for kids we're talking about what year was this in like 200 three 4 something like that this came [Music]

7:45 out okay it came out in 2001 in America oh my God April 6 2001 Jesus Christ that was so long ago what a time to be alive like I I made a terrible joke while watching this but I cannot repeat it because I'm get killed in the comments yes ma'am we'll talk about it later just okay so so talking about the ADR staff because this is like Heyday for kids this is directed by Michael Hani and he also wrote it along with

8:31 Norman grossfield uh Michael Hani did a lot of directing work for the Pokemon franchise he directed the Pokemon Movie 2000 Pikachu summer vacation and the dub of the first movie uh he was also the writer for a lot of 4 kid stuff such as Kirby right Back At You Yu-Gi-Oh Ark V and Sonic X Norman grossfield also wrote uh Pokémon Yu-Gi-Oh Ultimate Muscle and he was for a while the president of 4kid kids oh [ __ ] does that mean I can't talk crap about them are they come beat me up okay perfect no it it is Mor it is morally correct to talk about [ __ ] about four kids even though probably is the only reason why a lot of us are into [Laughter]

9:17 anime oh man like it is always morally correct to talk about people who censored things oh yeah see we talked about it two minutes ago and I already forgot this is okay so forewarned y'all I'm on a lot of like muscle relaxers right now because the two of us are the real MVPs and we both threw out our backs at the same time because we're old no I I literally your jokes because we're like hundreds and hundreds of miles away from each other yeah like I cannot make fun of Gigi I just felt really bad because she's like I pulled my back and I'm like oh no get better I literally the next day pulled my back isn't that crazy I hate that for

10:04 us I I all all your girl did was go pick up some groceries and there went my back I I got into a car and I was like oh that feels funny and then I was like a damn it let's go gambling a dang it so yeah my my brain is not here but I wrote notes I did homework good job thank you it's unlike most of the episodes I record nowadays so we chilling mhm so yeah I so here's the weird thing is that it is almost impossible to legally get a hold of the subtitled version of this of this movie because the Pokemon company yeah because the

10:52 Pokemon company basically does not like us to remember that Pokemon comes from Japan so almost all of my experiences with this come from the the the dub and from it's it's very much the Pokémon dub from what I remember across the years it's safe it's kid-friendly um but I will say that this definitely didn't feel like it downplayed any of what was going on in the film because frankly this is a fairly dark children's movie when I was watching it it made me think of the Unico movie with the little puppet guy um where they go to the island or whatever and I was like huh this is a little dark for a Pokemon

11:38 children's movie and then I remembered that it came from Japan and it's technically anime and I was like yeah right oh yeah it's as allowed to like make those Illusions back 20 years ago yeah it's like oh yeah that's right we're allowed to traumatize children and we America wouldn't figure that out until we start until Disney discovered uh what we call Child generational trauma or you know Bing or Bing Bong oh God did you watch the new inside out yet I have not seen I've never seen either Inside Out F oh okay uh well I won't ruin it for you but um that's a joke obviously Bambi's ex Disney has been traumatizing us since the 1930s um you know remember when all the

12:24 kids got turned into donkeys for being bad yeah I mean but that's a thing thing like it could happen I guess in also in the story that it came from you know what Fair um so I actually thought the the writing on this was at least better than most of what people would give for four kids sake MH it never felt like it was it was like obtuse on purpose when it had to be that being said there was also some really funny moments mostly thanks to Team Rocket like like yes the the one that stood out for me is the one where they're spying on them going through the river mhm it's like they're waiting what are they swimming no

13:09 they're waiting what are we waiting for no they're waiting I love that I wrote that down somewhere it's so funny in general a lot of people have the F at least the first Pokemon movie is very mem worthy with some of the lines like the uh IDE didn't know Vikings exist they mostly live in Minnesota classic wow I haven't seen this movie in a hot minute either so all those jokes are new to me I my brain works in mysterious ways where I do not want to remember anything that I should but if you want me to remember old [ __ ] lines from the Pokemon movie girl I am your [Laughter] girl oh my

13:55 God and then voicewise everybody sounded pretty great um there's a lot of double casting in this of it was the early 2000s and a studio that was probably doing a lot of this on the cheap man I like I I thought that you know I love the fourth wall breaks like in the writing that was my favorite part of the whole movie and yes all through Team Rocket which will talk about a little later um I I didn't feel like it was like on a big scale like it just felt like Pokémon to me probably because like that's the only Pokémon like the original 50 some episodes probably the only one I ever watched until I was an

14:41 adult and like in the past four years or something so I was like okay um I did find that like there were so many action scenes where there was no dialogue and I was like come on y'all can you throw like a grunt or like some sound effects here and I was like that's just lazy but whatever um I literally wrote down I mean it's a Pokemon movie it's for kids so I was like up up oh [ __ ] I I'm intentional I was like they're not going to care like it's just a movie like parents will go and spend 40 bucks on popcorn and candy and everybody will have a good time um I did think some of the casting choices were

15:27 fun because is of some stuff that we'll talk about later um yeah I mean I liked it I didn't see anything wrong with it like it it wasn't yeah you know terrible I could tell you some terrible dubs but yeah this was very much a a product of its time and I remember enjoying that product and I enjoyed watching this yeah I did too I had a good time I even watched it twice oh my God sound the alarm and I mean like a lot of a lot of my enjoyment of this personally is also a lot of nostalgia uh because this is my favorite Pokemon movie and I specifically traged Gigi into watching this for one reason yep which we will

16:13 get to later and she wouldn't tell me the reason and she said you'll know why but I'm not going to tell you anything go in blind and I did uh so let's move on to Team Rocket because they like they they lampshade multiple time in the movies hey Jesse can I ask you a question what do you think we'll get more screen time in the next film and that really like sums up Team Rocket for me I'm like could you could you please cuz you're the best part yeah like they're just they're just chilling out most of this movie I think my favorite parts of this is just like if you watch the background they're sneaking around a lot yes and then they suddenly show up to help and it's like why are you helping us because if you

16:59 died we'd be out of Show Business uh so obviously if you've never seen Pokemon Jesse James and Meowth are Team Rocket and their job is to steal rare Pokemon for their boss Giovani and they have decided that Ash's Pikachu for some reason is like the the Holy Grail of Pokemon so they have been tracking this [ __ ] 10-year-old around two continents at this point uh but they are basically inept time boken esque villains if you don't know what time boken is just talk to Jet he'll explain that to you um but they are they're pretty much usually everybody's favorite character they consist of Jesse the kind of hot-headed leader of them James her flamboyant sidekick and their Meowth who

17:45 can talk English language and you learned this in the most tragic episode of the show um called like Go West Young Meowth where you learn he he learned how to talk to impress a lady Meowth and she rejected him um God bless that man yeah playing Jesse is Rachel Lis playing James Eric Stewart and playing meow is meline blosson uh reel Lis you'll know his characters such as kanuka oh Ono and getkin yuriar and the irresponsible Captain Tyler and Martina zoana Mel narova and Slayers next Eric Stewart you'll know as Yukata watari and descendants of Darkness gon in Labyrinth of the flames and Bastion Misawa in

18:31 Yu-Gi-Oh GX and meline blaston uh the late great mine Boston was Wo and Kirby Right Back ATA Solomon Modo and Yu-Gi-Oh and yubo in the Phoenix and for anybody who ever said that trans voice actors don't belong uh your childhood beloved Meowth was voiced by a transom may she Rust in Peace oh she there there's actually a a podcast called the four kids retrospective that I think is being done by um Tera sanss and one of their upcoming episodes is a tribute to her good I didn't know if she died um yeah she she unfortunately passed away oh yeah I've I've I've listened to a couple episodes on one of our trucks back and forth to Chicago um it's interesting the history

19:18 behind this studio let me tell you it's uh and nobody remembers anything that's the best part nobody remembers anything thing um so Megan tell me why is James the best character in this movie and the answer will be um when the unknown is flying by and he says I haven't seen this many strange letters since the last time I placed a person personal lad and why will nobody get that now because they don't exist anymore I Jesse like like there are very few performances I'd call iconic the three of them are iconic as Jesse James and meow oh my God for

20:04 sure like there is nowhere you can go where if like you are a kid person our age who probably doesn't remember Rachel Lilith and mine's performance as these characters and just like like I there are people I know who like emulate specifically Eric Stewart's James voice the woo like the or one of my personal ones Leo forette and four kids are the devil um but they they don't get a ton of screen time but godamn do these three chew up every second they get right they are just eating like it's a [ __ ] buffet and I'm like where is the Team Rocket movie like just give me that and they all the fourth wall breaks are with them

20:50 like they're just the funniest part of this movie and it's a nice like for all the adults who had to bring their children into the theater to go watch this like I guess that's why I relate like most of them now cuz yes I am an adult my driver's license will tell you that um I think if my bad back won't my driver's license will right like like they're the funniest part for me and I'm like oh thank God they threw in some adult jokes for the parents who had to come and I was like you know those that shit's not in the Japanese it can't be there's no way 100% yeah like they're too straight with their Pokemon to make those jokes and like those jokes are just the best part for me and the delivery from all three of them is just perfect they're like yeah we know like we're here we're here just to save the

21:38 day just like I I love one of my favorite like I just love one of my favorite lines from them is actually they get to end out the entire movie on them and it's just like oh this made me cry but that little girl had an indomitable Spirit just like me and that was handsome just like me and that Meowth was great just like me and just like I love the three of them and if if I had the patience I'd go back and watch like the first 50 episodes of Pokemon just review it to talk about their performances but like they were fantastic and I'm just sad that they're not in the movie that much often because it's hard to talk about their performances as these characters right

22:23 because they're not there like like they said maybe they'll get more screen time if they help out I don't know what the next movie is did they get more screen time or were they just written out uh if I remember the next movie involves Ash the the the greatest debate in all of Pokemon starts in the next movie which is so the next movie is Pokemon forever oh wait no that's the celby movie which I do think they actually have more screen time in it's the one after that that starts the greatest debate in all of Pokémon okay and that is is who got Ash's first kiss the answer is it was that ltio that ltio locks lips with Ash before anybody else including Misty including May including

23:10 Dawn and including Serena the real winner of who is Ash's greatest lover is that Latos from the fifth Pokemon movie oh is that why they come back at the very end of the series oh that's [ __ ] cute yeah she's back for her man listen what's up [ __ ] I've let you roam this Earth for far too long now that you're the champion you're mine [ __ ] come let us make Pokemon Eggs I don't want to want to know I don't want to know oh let's let's that's my that's there we go the four kids the four kids snipers are trained on my location for that joke oh yeah we better uh move on we better move on although I will say I

23:58 don't this has nothing to do with them I forgot to say this in the first part um but uh 20 out of 10 to the jodo theme that plays at the beginning of this movie oh yeah no that [ __ ] slaps like hell and why do I know the words to that because I've never watched it you just do I was sitting there like singing it and Chris is like you didn't watch this and I was like yeah but I think I probably played this song about a million times on spy okay so let's talk like so okay so Pokemon re America redubbed all of the uh the music yeah like do you okay so you've said you've seen the first movie right yes I have the soundtrack to the first movie on a

24:43 CD the second one too so how in the how in the [ __ ] did they ever afford Christina Aguilera for that she wasn't popular then like that that's back before like right before she had her break so they had like really good soundtracks for one and two and and then for this one there's a fun piece of trivia for you that I you probably don't know so the people who sang the ending song that was a band called innocence spelled wrong so um Britney Spears was originally in innocence before she quit to go solo and that was one of Lou pearlman's groups for transcontinental records and AJ mle's ex-girlfriend was in there and so was Nikki Doo who I believe was on The Mickey Mouse Club

25:28 they were a train wreck and I was like Britney almost sang in a Pokemon movie but then I think she did didn't she wasn't she on the other one was she on the second one I thought she sang soap pop in one of them I'm going to Google it I'm I'm on I'm on I'm on Wikipedia I'm not on Wikipedia otown sang in the second one cuz I was obsessed with that this is my boy my boy band knowledge coming into my life Don summer Donna Summers was on the second movie soundtrack isn't that crazy cuz like that was when I stopped like after the second movie I was like okay I'm over this and I didn't pick it back up until like recent oh yes my favorite eclectic mu

26:15 music compilation Donna Summer and Weird Al Yankovic oh my God we're living in the strangest timeline maybe that wasn't Britney maybe that was will afford who was also an ex-girlfriend to Nick Carter of the back street boys I know I know this more than I know anything about Pokemon true facts speaking of a Backstreet Boy let's talk about Brock Misty and Ash's mom deia woo um Brock is the Peter City Gym Leader noted horn dog hits on every woman that moves has a giant snake in his balls uh Misty is the former ceria City Gym

27:02 Leader she is traveling with Ash so that Ash can finally one day repair her goddamn bike um she is also the best and dilia is Ash's mom uh she's a single mom we don't know where Ash's dad is but we know Ash's stepdad Mr mime I was going to say I thought Ash's dad was Mr mime that's not real is that the thing I no that's Gigi he's not his dad but he is the dad that stepped up um Mr mime Mr mime the greatest Pokemon of all time playing Brock is Eric Stewart who also played James playing Misty is Rachel Lis who also played Jesse wait wait what yeah you're [ __ ] kidding me no

27:48 I'm not are you are you [ __ ] serious right now nope yes oh oh my God okay please continue while I try to process that in my brain and Veronica Taylor plays Ash's mom uh Eric Stewart you'll res said some other roles but some other ones of his is G gabv and Slayers Marco lasso and Shaman King and everybody's favorite uh enterprising daddy sok Kaiba in Yu-Gi-Oh uh Rachel you'll know what yes G he's also set Kaiba I'm pretty sure I said that like four years ago when I did the episode

28:34 but uh yeah that part of my brain is gone oh my God okay please continue you okay there girl no I'm not I'm like I'm [ __ ] losing my mind right now uh Rachel Lois was also a character such as mop bartish in Mobile Suit Gundam UC see Charlotte in berserk the Golden Age Ark film uh one and to piss off everybody I know because they hate this goddamn dub uh she was uten tenjo and the Revolutionary girl UTA dubs as well o uh uh deia Veronica Taylor has played characters such as Lon and Digimon Adventure 2020 my my in the land of lean Lee and miria schumo and Yu-Gi-Oh zeil

29:19 um so yeah how do you feel knowing that people were double cast and that they could pull it off I'm a little shell shocked right now not not going to lie um also yes Britney Spears was on the first Pokemon movie soundtrack as was Aaron Carter in case you were wondering rip to him uh I can't [ __ ] believe it did they really have no money that they threw these people into the booth for like all day and just paid them like a flat rate or something but also it like it speaks to their ranges so well cuz I had no clue even even though I said it before I still have no [ __ ] clue like I forgot all about it I also

30:07 100% uh I also 100% totally forgot that they were double cast in this uh let alone um the fact that everybody could pull it off uh I was also surprised too that sometimes that they also weren't in the movie as much as I remember them being a lot of this is Ash based with his family uh but I really like their performances even if Brock hit on a 10-year-old a 5-year-old girl at one point just a cute girl a cute girl should have cute Pokemon Brock she is five and using illusion magic keep it in your pants obviously he was doing it to make

30:53 sure she wouldn't you know freak out and murder everybody but time to place dude Brock can never keep anything in his pants it's just it's Brock he's he's always my favorite uh my favorite sidekick boy to Ash does he gets new ones right I saw him in a different movie I was like he's no Brock I was like where's Brock yeah he gets yeah he gets Tracy for a little bit Brock then there's uh I think Brock is with them and hoen but they also have Max he gets like a hop later some dude named hop hop yeah hop is hop is way later down that's about where he also had and then he's also had he also had selan for a while

31:40 and then he also had um the in Callos he has uh another little kid that's with him man uh but yeah know Brock is the goat though [ __ ] love Brock even like he's so [ __ ] insufferable and I mean that in like the most loving way way possible like just voicing Brock must have like oh my God Eric Stewart has like the best characters to voice in the whole franchise because he gets he gets Jess he gets James and Brock right like it's so funny like he's so insufferable and I just I love that cuz it's hysterical and like he just never gives up like not at one point in time does Brock ever give up and and you can hear it in his voice

32:27 he's always always there to to be a man I guess and lend a hand and um oh my gosh Misty she sounds great too I can always pick Rachel ls's Misty voice out of a crowd like she was in some random media blasters dub I think it was like Nana 7 of7 or something I was like holy [ __ ] that's Misty from Pokemon like right it's so iconic and um it's so cute like her performance is just so cute here and Misty's always got a good head on her shoulders too and she tries to like be the responsible big sister one and there's a joke in there that makes me think of the joke from the Mighty Ducks 2 and like where they say

33:14 like everyone's heard of Greenfield well Greenfield is full of ice but Iceland is very nice oh my God I need I need professional help so you can quote the first Pokemon movie and I can quote D2 the Mighty Ducks it it is what it is this is our life this is what this is what we've become green Iceland is no Greenland is is is [ __ ] [ __ ] now I lost it ice but it ends with Iceland is very nice or something cuz Iceland is nice looking and Greenland is full of ice Greenland is full of ice but Iceland is very nice is the line because everything turns into like crystals right and they're like oh what happened it's so horrible I'm like I kind of like it like

34:01 this I love when it turned into uh the the final area of Pokemon sword and shield the big Rose thing and then of course my friend's like oh yo it's get a robo and I'm like God damn it can you keep your Mech [ __ ] out of here for 5 seconds god um but I I also really love just how different they do sound from Jesse and James and how much they keep that energy yes and like and Misty's Rachel Lis always has that little annoyed Edge on Misty for putting up with these two boys [ __ ] yeah I lik when she she made the little she put Togepi back in the egg and she's like you go in here now or something and I was like finally get rid of this baby put the

34:46 baby away like they're going up a [ __ ] cliff like don't bring the baby up a cliff just put him back in the egg they put she put him in his backpack Togepi in the backpack so he wouldn't get wet yeah yeah it was cute so she's like Mommy big sister I feel like she's the most levelheaded out of all of them and you can hear it in the voice yeah and then there's and then there's deia who it's so we'll get to it but it's very weird always when you hear Veronica Taylor use her adult woman voice yeah and it was really good and she had that very motherly tone on there but I've got to talk about my actual favorite moment of dialogue in the entire movie yes ma'am and that is when uh her and Professor Oak's van pulls up

35:36 and she's like oh Pikachu and she's so and you can hear how happy she is and Ash is like Mom she's like oh hi Ash she's like like gives zero [ __ ] about her son but Pikachu is here oh my God Pikachu is the real MVP I mean let's be real like sometimes when my mom goes to see the children well it used to be when the good dog was alive but the good dog died she's like oh Eclipse my favorite grandpy and I'm like oh yeah go go see the actual children mom not the not the dog [ __ ] I my mom is like what are you going to give me grandkids and I pick up my cat and put it in her face I was like she's right here I can't pick up Panda

36:21 Panda's too big and I really can't right now because because my my back is out I can't pick that dog up no Panda be big girl for a little while Panda's like 60 lbs I couldn't pick that up with my good back Jesus Christ right I can I I pick her up very like a very very Wiggly sausage uh but yeah no I liked her performances deia um very maternal very motherly she gets a lot more time than you'd expect in this movie and in having to break a 5-year-old girl's heart about that was so wrong I'm I'm not your mom what oh no you've given her psychological damage oh

37:08 my God yeah I thought she had like real big mom energy um and also the voice sounded younger and now that you're saying that it's the same voice as Ash yeah you just want to move into that makes sense oops sorry forgot about it um I thought that that she was trying trying really hard to like bring the passion and the drama to this kids movie um I liked her best when she was mind controlled oh yeah where she's got the robotic kind of voice yeah I was like I don't know why but I feel this but I was just kind of like okay like I get it like I understand and while you're in that castle do you keep wanting to sing into the unknown from Frozen 2 as well because that's how I feel no no because I haven't seen Frozen

37:54 2 what girl I'm sorry it's okay it was bad but it's still it's still a good joke to make for anyone who gets it um yeah no I I really liked it it was it was nice to have an adult in a Pokemon Movie who got more than like two lines and who wasn't in Team Rocket I don't know how old Team Rocket are but I would I would assume they're adults yeah like it was nice to have an adult there who had more than two lines who wasn't a villain like I think she did a a fun job and she tried really hard to bring that compassion in the drama in and when she was just telling little Molly that she wasn't your mom I was like why don't you just like adopt her like why did you

38:40 have to do that you could have been like well I'm not your mom but you I could be your mom if you really don't have anybody else like that would have been nice like what's she doing at home just playing with Mr MIM and sweeping the floor come on adopt that baby adop this child and then s Str says you can adopt a small child for only 73 cents a day oh my God nobody gets that joke either oh my God I am so old I'm sorry do I'm sorry that we're old that I don't know all of your old people things it's okay Megan but watch have you ever seen South

39:26 Park and you in that episode about Starvin Marvin I have not but I had to make a South Park joke last night and I can't repeat it because it's big spoilers for the expansion of 14 I'm on oh go but I'll explain it to you after perfect anyway kids if you don't know what I'm talking about go watch that South Park episode I'm not really advocating you to go watch South Park but that's where the joke is in another place just remember you can remember it's it's not adoption it's it's not kidnapping it's just forced adoption she wants a mom and a papa Papa and Mama and me just this episode of spy family is [ __ ] wild could you imagine Anya pulling this

40:13 [ __ ] holy crap oh my God she gets a dog and a dad all in one that's one less mouth you shouldn't have speaking of dog CAD are you ready to move on on to the final set of characters I think so I'm getting all my jokes ready in my mind so let's go for it so we have Ash Ketchum our our protagonist the Eternal 10-year-old who took 25 years to complete that job resume uh we have ente who is ma ente who is the guardian Spirit summoned by Molly uh being from her favorite children's book and Molly is our traumatized 5-year-old who has lost it all and accident set off the unknown uh and created this Crystal

41:00 Palace playing Molly is Amy Brin bomb playing ente is dead green and playing Ash is of course Veronica Taylor uh Amy bmom played characters such as Max in Pokemon charmi B in Shadow the Hedgehog an TAA Gardner in Yu-Gi-Oh Dan Green played G in giant propo uh Jericho C and Arbor Troopers votom and of course like a chicken no one God damn it no I was not bringing up Bible black in this children's film it wasn't Bible black that was Bible black no it's not that doesn't come yes it is that doesn't come from Bible black that 100% comes

41:47 from Bible black shut the [ __ ] up that's what it's from that is from Bible black GG I would [ __ ] Google it but I don't want to ruin the algorithm on my phone you know what [ __ ] it I'll ruin my algorithm hold on I'll ask Chris he'll knowe that Chen no it was 100% Bible black he says he doesn't think it's Bible black it is 100% Bible black all right right we'll we'll give you the answer in is it temptation is it Temptation

42:33 hentai I don't know what it is I've never seen it I just know the joke yeah no that is 100% from Bible black GG okay whoever's editing this you find it out and you write it on the screen yeah editor editor but Jackson I'm going to make you edit this for this the reason only uh but no the goat Yugi and yumy Yugi and Yu-Gi-Oh um and then of course we've already talked about Veronica Taylor as dilia but you'll also know her as Max and Dinosaur King and then just a [ __ ] with all of you all about Veronica Taylor's vocal range she was the Executioner boss in akudama drive and Manuel kasag Granda and Fire

43:20 Emblem three houses and every time I have yeah yeah you remember that dis Master [ __ ] drunk ass [ __ ] in three houses oh my God that's hysterical that's every time if you ever want to [ __ ] with somebody about someone's vocal range put a picture of Ash and manuella next to each other people will explode wow also we're not talking about them because Pikachu has actually never been dubbed over except for once uh and that was in the uh Pokemon the Movie I choose U Au and that was the only time Pikachu's ever had an English dub speaking voice detective that was Kate bristle detective Pikachu to

44:06 technically but I'm talking about specifically Ash's Pikachu okay so we're not going to talk about Ryan Reynolds or kg Tang no un okay I'll check that off my list Ry Reynolds you're so hot goodbye but uh no the only she's normal Pikachu is almost always played by IU Otani amazing uh they just don't they just don't dub over Pikachu's voice I assume it's because it's so iconic across the world yeah as they should they should leave it personal opinion so yeah so godamn Veronica Taylor's the goat is Ash like I you still I always can't believe that she can do adult voice and then just do this kid's voice that everybody knows I mean like she's so iconic as a voice actress and I

44:52 believe and you can come and find me for this that she does have the best Ash voice um it's it was such like a Nostalgia wave for me to hear it coming back because the new Ash I know is dubbed by somebody else um SAR neony yes but I uh what the hell did I write oh I wanted him to cry harder over his mommy I was like that I was like come on ash like make it a little more believable but now that I realize that it's Veronica Taylor crying over Veronica Taylor I'm like okay I'll give you a pass he he's pretty much

45:37 like my mom is done I'm angry baby I feel I feel bad but it's like I feel bad for him in this movie like but at least he does go like almost immediately to try to go save his mom he's like I don't care I'm just going to go so I was like good for you Ash and you can hear as with every time Veronica voices Ash like the determination even if it's like Blind Faith blind luck determination like it's still it's still there all the time and it's still working right and then like also just like Veronica Taylor's kid voice is just so good

46:24 right and like it's so so hard to replicate and it's also so iconic like there is nowhere like even if you don't watch anime or no anime voice actors like you'd be able to pick out specifically Veronica's Ash voice mhm and and God the way they screwed her over and the rest of this four kids cast which is another conversation um but if I also want to talk about performances I I genuinely really LED about this the tandem of Dan Green and Amy brim bomb as and ente like obviously the Dan Green voice is Iconic Dan Green's voice is [ __ ] iconic too like everybody knows Dan Green and

47:09 very specifically the tone that he uses for Yugi and yamy yes and he does bring that over to ente and it works because ente is this very stoic protector character and he doesn't really have a mind of its own but God damn it if you you don't feel something in your soul for anything you wish will happen and I specifically told you to go into this blind because of Dan Green being ented I figured as much cuz I was like it's the movie started or whatever and I'm like watching it with Chris and like immediately like my ears perk up and I was like who is that voice I know that voice and then I was like oh [ __ ] it's cluck like a chicken and he just starts laughing and I'm like yep I like how you don't remember him

47:57 for cl for Yugi but it's just cluck like a chicken yeah of course that's the funniest part I mean like so I never watched Yu-Gi-Oh growing up I watched it as an adult so like not that I watched cck like a chicken ever or that I watched it growing up but I think that's I would hope you didn't I don't think it would have even been possible but I was just like good Jesus googly booly my God I love so okay hear me out I loved him when he was a human dad like that was probably my favorite part of his vocal performance was when he was a human dad I thought it was like very sweet and very caring and very cute but still like he had to have like that

48:42 gravel and that low tone and that gravel enough to let you know that when ente comes that oh yeah he's ente too because like I don't know I guess I kind of again would compare it to Yu-Gi-Oh where like the dad is like regular yu-i and then like ente is like Shadow real yui or something I don't know guys it's been a hot minute since I've seen Yu-Gi-Oh leave me alone probably as long as since the last time we recorded that episode um but oh my God I was laughing so hard like when he roared as a human he was like Roar and I was like oh my God stop and then I have come for you you are Mama and I was like I'm done I'm like that thing things you want

49:29 things you want ente to call you Mama God and just like you're just so into it right and you're like oh my God this is so good but I also really want to talk about Amy because yes she did a really great job like she did a really good job being this scared little girl as well as when she had to um you know sift into an adult and kind of like a teenage version of her I thought that she was just so good in this and it's really surprising because a lot of people I think in in general

50:15 would think that oh there is no such thing as a good four kids dub or a good four kids performance no she was really good yeah no this is a really good dub yeah like I she herself was very good in it and I thought she captured Molly's pain and the pain of being this lonely little girl well and she carried the heart of the movie I agree it's like you know when Bambi's mom dies now now Bambi's going to carry the whole movie and it's Molly sorry I will never not say Molly correctly it just I'm Sailor Moon deak dub in my head for the rest of my life um it's okay I thought she was super cute with like like her fake mom with Ash's mom I was like oh my God that's so

51:00 adorable like the just the voice that she had there like to have a mother and a father like a whole family together and the happiness that she exuded was just was so cute like I really loved it and then like when she got older I could like I could hear it in her voice that she was having more fun with it cuz she kind of got to be like cute but like at the same time it was like oh my God I'm a teenager like I can act however I want like the Ojo Sama or whatever but she didn't do like the Ojo Sama thing but I I know it was cute um we got to protect her must protect little Molly cuz she had a a garbage time when becoming an orphan in 20

51:49 minutes if if that but no I thought she did a really good job too like the whole little family unit even well fake family unit I guess cuz the real mom never talks um I thought it was adorable like I would watch their spin-off like rich kid in a house with a dog dad like I'm in hell yeah uh do you have any other anything else you wouldd like to do for let's see hold on I got to walk across the room o we're making really good time um I mean for me like it was cute it was

52:35 a movie I've never seen before and it was actually like on my list of things to watch like sometime this year because I wanted to watch all the Pokemon movies that we own and yes we did we did own it and he did find it after I had bought another copy on Amazon so I returned it sorry for kids it's all good it's all good but I was like oh like if you if you guys watch this on Blu-ray like it's a [ __ ] trip like there's no subtitles so I can't do the cheater thing this is almost as bad as a crunchy roll blue way maybe worse Jesus Christ like there's no special features like it's literally like nothing like and you had to turn the volume all the way up yeah right yeah no this is not a

53:20 well-mixed movie no and you can't find it streaming unless you pay for it I was like [ __ ] that I'll just get a Blu-ray and have it forever right it'sit cool it is but I thought it was really cute like I had a good time watching it watch it twice don't have any regrets well except for like the action scenes like I did the second time fast forward through most of them which was like probably like at least 15 minutes of the movie towards the end I was like oh nobody's talking here like I can fast for it oh yeah there's a big fight oh the letters they're not spelling killer murder like okay yeah so yeah no I enjoyed it I I still love this movie I had a great time I had a lot of I did I did Riff on it a little bit in my in my Discord server but that's like a show of love if I if I can make fun of you so much like right

54:07 uh I I really enjoyed the dub it I do wish that they would release the subtitle version of this legally just to like hear the difference and see what was changed obviously like besides the music cuz like I think the whole score was redone for this movie and obviously with a potentially Better Mix because this movie is mixed like absolute [ __ ] um but I think the acting and the writing there and it kept the heart of the movie and it was it was more of the Pokemon 4 Kids dub which for as flaw as it was I will still have nostalgic fondness for it was it one of the greatest dubs of all time no but it it it served a lot to get a lot of us into anime and to love the medium so I it's I don't look at it as harshly as I do say like Sailor Moon and card cap Sakura which really [ __ ]

54:54 butchered it's material um but yeah no I liked it and if uh I guess it's time to start plugging ourselves and get this wrapped up yeah um I did want to say one more thing and now I just it just blanked in my mind um it is it is a shame that we'll probably never get a subtitled version legally like I don't know why everybody is holding on tight to the strings of Pokémon so much that you know we we'll never get to see it I really wish that that viz or whoever owns the rights to these movies would put it out like in a nicer a nicer releas Pokemon cuz like the the Pokemon company International that's oh okay like we had to we Googled

55:40 some YouTube like trailers for it and I was like well first of all they gave away the whole movie in the trailer but secondly like the trailers got me like really hyped to watch the movie and I was like like all of this stuff like it's going to get lost to time and I I think it's really important for media preservation to to get stuff out there and and keep it going but it really did you know bring back some Nostalgia Vibes for me cuz I remember taping the first seasons of Pokemon like on a VCR like cuz they aired like I think I was maybe in school or like leaving for school or something so when I got home every day like the first thing I would do would be to take my tape my VCR tape of Pokémon and like watch the new episodes and so when Megan

56:26 was like let's do this I was like oh sweet like I can't wait to like find the Blu-ray and like watch it so it was like it was a total Nostalgia trip for me so was a good time thank you for having me on with you oh thanks I'm very I'm very happy we can uh talk about this cuz like I said I've never I don't think we've ever gotten to specifically talk about the four kids cast of Pokemon we got to talk about the other one you're right so it was nice to get to talk about this and like just have be a kid again um so if you'd like to follow us we are the dub Talk podcast we are here on YouTube Twitter Blue Sky Instagram Tumblr uh twitch sometimes uh if you like us so much that you'd like to give us money but only want to do it one time we have

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57:58 I talk about one piece and uh how tired I am as is the case no I'm just kidding sometimes I talk about anime too I'm currently trying to do a thing where I watch something that we have a physical thing for uh as much as I can so I'll talk about those and I do have a YouTube channel which is mostly dead but it's also an anime pla with capital A Megan where can they find you uh you can find me at queen2 on Twitter uh I'm a just [ __ ] post post pictures to my dog uh repost art hope that none of you see the NSFW artist that I follow what um and yeah that's about it so GG we have become Pokemon Masters we have broken the spell of the unknown what are we going to do now um go to Raising

58:44 Canes I'm going to go eat too pluck like a CHI with that everybody and remember that don't let your dreams be memes let an ente come to life and become your daddy he said you are Mama you could be his daddy good night everybody and know takuan love your faces [Music]