[Digimon Podcast] LiT Episode 94 - DigiEgg is Not On Crash

Brief Summary

This episode of the Boston Transational podcast covers Digimon news, Lost in News Lately updates, and a detailed discussion of the Digimon Frontier movie, "Island of the Lost Digimon." The hosts analyze the plot, characters, and differences between the Japanese and English versions, and also share their overall thoughts on the movie.

  • Hot Topic has blind bag Digimon figures in the USA.
  • Digimon is being removed from Netflix America.
  • New Atmon art has spoilers for Jay.
  • New Digimon for the B pet: Blitz Greymon and Crescurummon.
  • The hosts review the Digimon Frontier movie "Island of the Lost Digimon".

Digi News

The hosts discuss several pieces of Digimon news, including the availability of blind bag Digimon figures at Hot Topic in the USA, which is frustrating for Australian fans due to import difficulties. They also mention Digimon being removed from Netflix America, though this doesn't affect them in Australia. Additionally, they touch on the upcoming Digimon Adventure Try English DVD release, which currently has no Australian release date. There's also discussion about new Atmon art, with one of the hosts trying to avoid spoilers. Finally, they mention new Digimon, Blitz Greymon and Cres Garurumon, being added to the B pet.

Lost in News Lately

The hosts provide updates on "Lost in News Lately," including the near completion of Young Mi's fanfic reading and plans for listener contributions in the Slack group. They also discuss adding a new Patreon milestone to cover the Digimon manga, starting with VTamer, as a monthly show, potentially including other manga like Digimon Next and Crosswars. The hosts also talk about the time-consuming tasks of updating podcast episode images and encoding episodes into video format. They apologize for a synopsis error in episode 93 and joke about using a generic synopsis for future episodes. The weekly poll will be about choosing between Cotmon or Kumon/Bammon.

Movie Discussion Start

The hosts begin their discussion of the Digimon Frontier movie, "Island of the Lost Digimon," noting its competent plot and consistent foreshadowing. They point out that the twist is well-foreshadowed, especially when watching it a second time. However, they find the motivation of the characters confusing, as it's not immediately clear why the human and beast Digimon are fighting.

Movie Discussion: Beginning Scenes

The hosts discuss the beginning scenes of the movie, starting with Iumi humming a classical Italian song. They note the absence of the Digimon Frontier theme song in the opening and discuss the characters' initial interactions and motivations. They also point out inconsistencies in the plot, such as the claim that the island is inescapable despite the characters easily moving around.

Movie Discussion: Island and Guardian

The discussion continues with the arrival of the characters on the island and the introduction of the island's guardian. The hosts critique the nonsensical way the characters get to the island. They also discuss the statue of the guardian Digimon and how it subverts the typical trope of statues coming to life to help the characters.

Movie Discussion: Ancient Digimon and the Island's Secret

The hosts discuss the ancient Digimon and the island's secret, including the revelation that the island cannot be left. They question the logic and purpose of this plot point, as it is never relevant to the story. They also discuss the appearance of Bamon and his explanation of the ancient Digimon and their connection to Lucimon.

Movie Discussion: The Horrors of War

The hosts discuss the horrors of war depicted in the movie, noting the dramatic scenes of death and destruction. They also discuss the emotional whiplash of transitioning from these scenes to lighter, more comedic moments. The hosts analyze the motivations of the characters and the conflicting perspectives on the war.

Movie Discussion: The Plot Thickens

The hosts discuss the plot developments, including the discovery of the mural and the attempts to decipher its meaning. They also discuss the characters' reactions to the ongoing conflict and the growing tensions between them. The hosts analyze the motivations of the characters and the conflicting perspectives on the war.

Movie Discussion: Darkmon's Reveal

The hosts discuss the reveal of Darkmon's true nature and her plan to revive Osammon. They critique the timing of the reveal and the lack of suspense, given the limited time remaining in the movie. The hosts also discuss the evolution sequences and the lack of variation in the animation.

Movie Discussion: Final Battle and Resolution

The hosts discuss the final battle against Osammon and the resolution of the conflict. They critique the deus ex machina appearance of ancient Gmon and ancient Gurumon and the sudden shift in the characters' motivations. The hosts also discuss the ending of the movie and the differences between the Japanese and English versions.

Movie Discussion: Final Thoughts and Timeline

The hosts share their final thoughts on the movie, with one host finding it enjoyable and the other less so. They discuss the movie's strengths and weaknesses, including its plot, characters, and animation. The hosts also attempt to place the movie within the Digimon Frontier timeline, ultimately concluding that it doesn't fit neatly into the established continuity.

Final Thoughts and Weekly Wonders

The hosts discuss the differences between the Japanese and English versions of the movie, highlighting the added dialogue and cut-off ending. They announce that this is the last Digimon movie they will be covering in English. For weekly wonders, one host recommends ulong tea as an appetite suppressant, while the other discusses their new diet plan.

Emails and Fanfic

The hosts read emails from listeners, discussing their thoughts on recent episodes and the Digimon Frontier movie. They also answer a question about which spirit evolution they would choose for themselves and their partner. Finally, they introduce chapter 7 of the fanfic, titled "The Furry."

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0:00 [Music] execute podcast evolution. [Music] Hello everyone and welcome to episode 94 of Boston Transational. I'm May and I'm Why would you do this to me? because I'm and this week, hi everybody. I'm And this week we watched the Digimon Frontier movie Island of the Lost Digimon or Why would you ever say it properly?

0:49 Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll I'll do it properly. I believe it's pronounced or All [Music] right. It's a long title. Onto the onto the show. For Digi news this week, first off, we have some news that makes me really sad. And it's that Hot Topic has blind bag Digimon figures in the USA. It makes me sad because we're in Australia and they don't have a Hot Topic here. You mean Hot Dabber? And it's going to be like really hard to import because just don't. Thanks, Australia. So cute. Just don't do it. And there's also like plushies that are going to come out soon. There's plenty of cute stuff already. Just don't do it. But I want a little dome with like a Greymon or a Palmon or just don't.

1:35 They're really cute. Just Just don't. Another bit of news that will make everyone sad, but I don't really mind is that Digimon is being removed from the Netflix America. Wasn't it just Frontier? No, it's just the first three seasons. Oh, removed. Um, bye. So yeah, this doesn't affect us because it was never on Netflix Australia to begin with. And it kind it sort of like jumps on and off Netflix all the time in America, it seems. But uh no, it's if if that's how you're watching Digimon, I'm I'm sorry. But yeah, it doesn't affect us, but I just thought we'd mention it. That's okay. Lucha Underground will be there soon. In fact, it's there now. You should watch that instead. And uh Lgerero was all like, "Hey, Netflix UK, buddy. Buddy, did he?" Yeah. What? When? On Twitter. Did he? Yeah, about Digimon. About Lucha Underground. The thing you

2:21 were just mentioning, Jay. Oh, because Elig is not on there. I was confused. Yeah, but he wants to watch it. That's awesome. Cool guy. I did not know about that. That's not cuz he's in England. He could move. But yeah. So, and speaking of things that don't affect us, we should probably talk about anyway. There is a Digimon Adventure Try English DVD release coming out soon. That doesn't affect me, but it doesn't it doesn't affect me cuz there's been no Australian release day um or any news to do with that. So, I'm I'm negative. Just do what you've done with everything else. Get an American DVD player. I have I don't have an American DVD player. Yeah, you didn't have a Japanese PlayStation either. But guess what? You fixed that problem. Uh then you unfixed the problem. Then you refix the problem. Yeah. By blowing it up. Please don't let me near electronics. Okay, fine. I'll help you out there. No,

3:07 I need that for my notes. Um Oh, no. My notes. Behold. Long long story short, um she blew up her PlayStation. It was hilarious. Yeah. Um I I fixed it. I fixed it. It cost me.7 to fix my PlayStation. 40. Yeah, it was 40. And then it cost me 30 to fix a Sega Saturn that I promptly blew up afterwards just to check to see if that's actually how I blew it up. That was the funniest thing ever. That was the unneeded death. Okay, imagine that you have a car, right? A car that you need to get to work. And one day you accidentally set off some dynamite in the engine block. All right, this is my great great example. And you think to yourself, okay, the car doesn't work anymore. Um, I don't know why. So, the first the first thing I will do

3:54 before I even start investigating what it might be through, you know, the Google or something. I thought you were about to say all trooper car, but no, I was say the jugle, but that's not it. So before you even Google it, the first thing you do is you go to your other car which was like new and shiny and still hadn't been driven and you it's got a sheet over it and you take the sheet off and you put another dynamite into the underb block and it blows up and you go, "Huh, this one doesn't work now either. Wonder why that is." And some more Digimon news, which is on a happier note, is that there's some new Atmon art for the next arc of Atmon. And it says April on it. Dead. So yeah, that's we won't talk about it cuz I'm not showing Jay it because I don't think Jay wants to see it because it's spoilers for him. What are the odds that

4:39 the best the most character development of all of Atmon will be April Fool's episode? Oh my gosh. Please, can they not do Wait, no. Wait, there's Atmon. They can do an April Fool's episode as long as it don't hurt me. I want in the April Fool's episode either for it to I I want like Ty to walk in and Ty and like from like from Try the kids walk in and they're like they're doing other stuff. Okay. So, Agamon is actually in one of the uh an arcade game for Atmon. The DCD one. The what? The one that's not like it's the one with like the cards. The card. Uh no, it's not the card. It's not the C the Cardass one, but it's the DCD card one. I don't know what that means. That there are two different sets of cards. I have all of them. So, this is sad. You know that, right? Just just a question. Did you ever think you're being sad? Did Did you

5:25 actually want to look at the art? No. Okay, cuz I was going to show it's because I would like Is it big spoils? I'll watch it. I'll look it if it's not big spoils. Um, it's arguable because like is it big spoils or not? It's it's about the new aptly driver. We know that his part we we we're pretty sure it's big spoils. I don't want to say it's not huge. It's not big spoils. It is big spoils. It's not big spoils. It's It's really cool. I would like It's really big spoils. I would really like to hear you react to that. I want to react for it naturally in the show. But it's so cool. No, you take your spoils away from me. I really want to talk about it. No, I don't want to talk about I will do the rest of the show as bad. Can I show you part of it? No, this part's not on spoils. Okay, fine. That's cute. Isn't that Offmon? That's Offman. But But are you sure that's not Big Spoils? No, his part his partner is here. But is this not Big Spoils? No, his part his partner is here. That's that part's big spoils.

6:11 We already knew that there was going to be a new Apply Driver. Okay, but like the new Apple driver could be the one with Cameron. Well, we don't we don't we don't know that part. That part is still up in the air whether or not it was the one with Cameramon or not. Like this could be maybe. Is it the one from the game? No, it's not. It has he's he has been in the game. The much of the game I have played with. No, he's had not been in the game. Okay. So, it's a he though. So, it's not I. No, it's not. It's not I. Okay. So, you don't want me to show you? No, I don't. It's There's a new design. Okay. I'm just Don't hurt me. No, I'm not seeing it. I'm trying to I can't I was trying to show you the new design of the Atmon, but I the Atmon drive, but I can't actually show you without showing you who's who is holding it. I hate you. I'm not even going to ask. I don't want to know. The answer's probably yes. If that's what you're going to ask, the answer is yes. Okay. I do want I will ask you one cuz is it a character we've seen already? Well, that's why I'm not going. Obviously,

6:57 that's why I'm not showing you it. Okay. Do you want me to show you? I won't show you. I won't I won't spoil. I need these reactions when I see the show to be genuine. Not Oh, there it is. Hate that. Hate having that feeling. Oh, that there it is. Okay. I'm actually on the side of the Japanese when they're like, "We want to show you how it got there. We We don't want to show you what's happening cuz we'll show you that before, but we'll show you how to get there." No, I think that that's fascinating. and I go, "That's interesting." But I never get the like the constricting feeling of, "Oh, it's what what's that happening?" Like with wrestling, right? If I see if I know who's going to win a match, even though I know it's all rigged, I don't think the match is nearly as interesting anymore because tension is part of storytelling, which the Japanese don't

7:43 care about, but I do. I always do. Speaking of which, this movie sucks. Uh, yeah, but we're not talking about that yet. We are talking about the next bit of Digimon news which is there are new Digimon for the B pet and this is Blitz Greymon and Crescurummon. That sounds crap. What are they? Uh basically um the the Digimon way of strapping metal onto things. I'm trying to find a picture. Wait. So is is Blitz what's going on higher than Warmon? Uh um I think it's just an alternate evolution for him. I'm not sure cuz this news just came out. I'm just trying to They really hamstrung themselves with this like oh ultimate's the highest one. Yeah, but then it wasn't when we had Malamayatismon. Yeah, but what was he? Was he super ultimate? Like, is there a level for what he was? Uh, or was he a slide evolution? So,

8:29 here is Blitz Gmon and here's Crest Garum. I legitimately like Blitz Gmon. I don't legitimately like Cres Garumon. That looks like Zurum, but he has a sword now. No, see that one's He has pants now. That one is not the same guy. That is a totally different being. Cuz the worst part about that is it's where Gurumon was with stuff on him, but that's not what he would evolve out of, right? It's Well, it probably is actually, but like it's it's Metal Gmon who stood up again for no reason. That's nonsense. But Blitz Gmon looks like War Gmon who had a cool transformation where like blood went all over his armor and then he got giant guns. I'm like, I'll take that. That's the kind of evolution I'm happy to see. for loss in New Lately. This week, Young Mi's fanfic has almost finished from being read in the

9:15 outro news and well, it's lost in news lately and so that means it'll be continued soon. So, contributions from listeners will take place in the continuation channel in our Slack group, but we'll let you know when we're actually finished. And I haven't actually done this yet because I've been super crazy busy, but I've I'm going to add a new Patreon milestone and it's once a month we'll be covering the Digimon manga starting from Vamer. Uh, this will obviously take place once we're finished with Lane. My god, we have to do so much work. Well, if we ever get to that milestone. I'm trying to decide what it should be. It's like I'm I'm trying to work out if it's 275 or $300 milestone. I don't know what it looks like anymore. What our other milestones are. So, if like is this $25 above other milestones or Yeah, it is $25 above the 250 milestone, which I

10:00 don't think we'll even get that. Like, it's a very hopeful optim. Um 300 is the we'll think about it later milestone, right? Yeah. So we we'll we'll we'll work out what level that's going to be, but it's just something like people keep on saying, "Hey, you should cover the VTamer manga like in your show." I'm like, "Uh well, maybe we'll just make it a a milestone and we'll do it as a monthly show and we'll do the other manga as well. We'll do Digimon Next. We'll do Crosswars. Let's stick it on 300." Considering how much work editing is for you. Yeah, but if it's once a month, it's like we do two episodes a week. An extra one isn't going to kill me probably. Actually, maybe. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I I do a lot of work. Um I basically died this week. I think if people hand you 25 bucks, you'll be like, "Okay." If people hand you 12, you're like, "I don't know."

10:46 I've I've been very busy. Uh speaking of how busy I've been doing, I've been doing the most annoying job to do with the podcast. So, all of our episodes have 1,400x 1,400 pixels dimension images. Right. Yeah. And that's the perfect dimensions for well it's the minimum dimension for the for iTunes to have as art. But for some reason SoundCloud has not been putting them as 1,400 but as 1,399 something. Why? I don't know. Maybe SoundCloud hates me. So, what I've been doing is I've been going through all 140 episodes of our podcast and making the icons and making them bigger so they don't kill resolution. And I haven't finished them all yet because it

11:32 takes I've been down. I'm just about how much work I have to do. I'm like, I'm not even halfway there. I'm maybe I am. I No, for our main show, I have done up to episode 70 something, I think. But then we also I have I haven't done Atmon yet except for the most recent one and I have like a special episode to do as well and it's a lot of it's a lot of work but I'm going to do it and that's going to be it's going to look nicer for new listeners who will look at it and it may look a bit more inviting than just the same logo that we have for the main show. And it's just I it's just something I I'm dying. Um and then I and then I have to check that they all worked. Are you seeing the Offspring? No. Cuz that that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Offspring. No, it's it's the um you got to keep him separated. No, I

12:17 think it's just it's from like a crazy taxi ad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh it sounds like it's from the offspring, my friend. No, that's it. But it's not from a song. It's just that part. They probably they probably took it from the offspring because crazy texting the offspring were both around the same time. Anyway, speaking of things that I've been doing that is timeconuming for the podcast, um I've been encoding all our remaining episodes into video format. So, I'm done with that. But now I have to upload the remaining bit. But I only have to upload a 20 something more. And then we'll be doing that with your internet. Ready for abuse. As usual, because my internet for some reason can't handle uploading things cuz it already takes like 2 hours to upload 100 megabytes. Why? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um I hate you so much, but I

13:05 don't. So that's that's fun. Um, speaking of uh things that take me a lot of time again is that episode 93, which was our last episode, had a bit of a boo boo, an obnoxious synopsis in the first, and this was only for like the first hour of the release. So, maybe some of our listeners are not aware of this, but I just want to talk about it. So what what had happened is that it had episode 92's obnoxious synopsis in it because I placed the obnoxious synopsis in the wrong f file and yeah that so I I picked the wrong one and I added obnoxious synopsis before we record the podcast. So it's already all done for me to record for for me to put plop in the podcast the next morning and I woke up at 4:30 a.m. I sort of like made sure that it was in there properly. I didn't listen to the whole thing because as I said I already knew it was up like edited and I didn't want to you know

13:50 retread over finished ground and yeah it uh it wasn't the right one and I probably should have checked it but yeah as I said I woke up at 4:30 in the morning after 2 hours of sleep. She does that. It's uh that's also that's also what I do. Um after we I'm not sure if you mentioned it, but uh my sleep schedule is not is not good on Friday nights. I we finish like I finish sending it out to Patreon supporters and I like prepare it for editing the next morning and then I go to bed at 2 and I wake up quite early in the morning to edit it then so I can potentially have a weekend a professional podcast to me. But yes, so sorry that got like a bit real about how much work we've been doing. Um, yeah. So, thanks to RKU, who pointed this out in our Slack chat, and she pointed it out like basically within like 5 minutes of of downloading the

14:37 episode, which was like quite soon after uploading it, and told us straight away. So, I immediately stopped what I was doing, fixed the episode, made sure this the segments like transitions were still correct, and then re-uploaded it. And so if you did notice that it was episode 92, but haven't really downloaded that episode and you do want to hear obnoxious synopsis for that episode, you'll have to download episode 93 again. But I'm really sorry about that. Um, I'll I'll try to like be better at editing and not stuff up anymore. Actually, you know what? What I think in all the obnoxious synopsises, I will just give as I have been pretty much the same answers. Frontier will be bad. Frontier will be bad. Everything will annoy me. Five out of 10. And that way you can't get it wrong. Yeah, it's a simple solution. We don't even have to

15:23 record if you just say that every week. I just say first episode, what do you think? Frontier will be bad. What rating? Five. Second episode. Frontier will be bad. Rating four. I legitimately want to do that for like a stretch of six episodes. I want to see if people notice. I could just copy and paste it really. It's like eh eh eh no no no need to do that. Change the order of some of the questions sometimes just to psych people out. Yeah, I can do that with editing. I'll just ask you a range of questions and you know pick and choose, right? Yeah. Uh for weekly poll this week it'll be choose between Cotmon or Kumon/Bammon. The obviously choose choice is Kuman though. Obvious choice is Coton. Hey, excuse you. You know what Cottomon doesn't have? A stupid hat that says Kendo. Yeah. You know what Kuman does have that Cottoon doesn't? Being alive. No, he's alive at the end. I don't know. It seems very convenient.

16:10 Also, he has a runny nose. Gross. Uh there's no obnoxious noises this week because it's a movie. But um so I guess the question would be what do you think Frontier will be bad? And five out of 10. Something will annoy me. Probably butt bashes. Something a little Oh my gosh. Like I have the best screenshot of the week. No, you don't. The best one that we've ever had. So onto the episode. What episode? It's movie. Movie. Onto the movie. Onto the episode of the discussion which is our movie. Wait, other way around. Let's be real just in advance. Mhm. This is the most competent plot out of all of the digital and it had the most consistent feature. Takuya sneeze. That was funny and also really random. We'll talk about that when we get there. But primarily, I want

16:56 to just mention that this is a very competently run plot. Yeah. Like beginning to end, it's pretty much consistent and the twist is interesting and it actually totally foreshadows it if you're paying attention. Oh yeah, it cuz like cuz because because I knew that that was already happened and I didn't notice that when I first watched it when I was like uh I want to say 12 maybe maybe maybe older maybe 14. Anyway, so when I first watched that I was like the twist but I watching it this time you just like see her show up like Darkmon show up and she just sort of like you can see her almost like transition in like she's changing. You see like the glow of the slide evolution right at the end, but then it does this little trick where it cuts to these to the two aggressive people, then cuts back to her. So, you don't really connect the

17:41 feet and stuff. Another time you see Hippogrimon running and then all of a sudden you see Darkmon, but it's like it's good foreshadowing. So, you can always see it's very obvious if you know because I watched it twice in a row. I can tell you the first time I didn't see it and the second time I totally saw it. Yeah. And Yeah. It was the same. I was kind of like, "Oh, that's really I was kind of worried. I'm like, "Oh, maybe I didn't notice how obvious that was because I was young and, you know, not not as bright." But now I I still But yeah, no, it's I'm I'm glad that you didn't think it was super obvious cuz I was worried that you'd say, "Oh, it was so obvious." The only thing that's really random and that I don't like I think about the plot in general, like we'll talk about the movie and whether or not it makes any like whether or not the movie is good, which I don't think it necessarily is because it is. It's

18:28 got one episode's worth of stuff for 40 minutes. But um the only problem is that in darkmon's by the way darkmon shouldn't the kids be like I can't trust them like evil mom you can't trust evil mom I think it's meant to be like no it's dark but it's the dark it's it's got like a it's not the ar well okay real talk as a child I I I didn't watch [ __ ] like J tamers in Japanese so I knew it was a D power but then I read about it being the D arc and then I read like saw movie and I was like Dark. So I got them confused between Dark as in the Digivvice and Dark as in Darkmon. Is it D Armon? Is that actually It's always written as D apostrophe A R Semon. Oh so

19:14 it's like that's the arc isn't like Jon of the Arc. That's funny. So um basically one of the confusing bits actually screw. No, that'll come out in the in the discussion. All right. So we begin with Iumi humming and she's just going along and it's this sound going with the desert. Unless you're in English, in which case Tolman is like, "Are we there yet?" No. How about now? No. Now? No. No. No. And no. Now, will you please stop asking? Okay. How about now? Unless you have a real question, be quiet. Pokémon. Yes. I have a question. What is it? Are we there yet? No. Okay. I love

20:02 them so much. They are the best characters. I'm glad they actually put the script as a character cuz he's the best character. He carries the script with him. That's my favorite. It's in the first episode. My favorite line of the whole thing. I love it every time. He's so proud. The when he picks up the book in this movie was actually almost my screenshot of the week. So, let's see. When would this take place? This is Oh, no. I have a I have a discussion I have a discussion point for it. I have a discussion point for it. We're not allowed to talk about that now. I'm worried. I was worried that you were going to bring that up. No. No. Okay. Let me have my discussion. You're on a weird crawling hand car, which is like the Mike Wazowski of Trail Mon. It is, isn't it? And but before we get too far, I also want to say that I is humming the same song in the original and the English version. It's weird. It's an Italian classical music song apparently.

20:48 I forgot what it's called. Well, that if if it's not Japanese, then the English doesn't need to change it. I know. But I liked that they kept that little thing that she's Oh, she's humming an an Italian song cuz she's Italian. Cooji's being a party pooper cuz he sucks. Yeah, but that's just Koji. Also, sorry a bit more before I'm sorry. I I really have to talk about this. Do you? So, I just want to point out, you know what? This this beginning opening scene is missing. What? Digimon. Like, you don't remember how the 0ero2 movie had that song? The Tamus movie had that song. The other Tamus movie had that song. You know, movie doesn't have the Digimon Frontiers theme song. This one. This one. I mean, it's in the ending credits, but I'm just like I felt like it would have been needed here. You know what this really could have used? Mhm. The Digi Folution is a fan

21:33 running. The Digi Destiny starts today. That's enough. Way and truly enough. I'm just very excited. You overdid it. So, yeah. Cooji is being Cooji. And Tomoki wants to see an oasis, so he wants to stop. And in the dub, Tommy just wants to see like just wants a rest stop. And Cody says, "Look, we don't have time to just play around." In the dub, he says that it would just be a waste of time to stop. Well, well, we don't have time to stop and look around around. I think he's fair enough in the original. We don't know what they're doing or where they're going. Yeah, but there's no urgency to it. They're on a hand car. Yeah. And they're not going very fast. I'm pretty sure if they ran it'd be faster. Um, and then in the English, it's the weirdest thing ever where they're like, "Oh, what what does Ki think?" like, "Oh, we're going to be totally fine. There's nothing around here anyway. Let's just go." And they

22:19 immediately get attacked. He seems like such an idiot. They just sort of like, as always, just kind of travel into the plot. And it's weird because, well, they're traveling a lot. They say the island isn't is something that you can't escape from. Yet, these Digimon doing a great job of not being on the island currently. Yeah, there's a couple things about that doesn't make any sense. But first of all, isn't this wrong when we said this is the most consistent Frontier? Here are these problems. Let's be totally honest. That is not part of the plot at all. The fact that you can't leave the or the supposed fact you can't leave the island is not part of the plot. It is never relevant. Never. It never comes up. It is it's so never comes up that they take away lines about it in the English just to make you forget more. Yeah. So, there's an umbrella on this handcar which when I'm

23:05 watching it because it's it's pointed in such a way that if the the wind should be pulling up in it and it would fly off and then the fight begins and the it just flies off on its own. And I'm like, "Yeah, it happened." It's almost like Atmon like, "Hey, doesn't shouldn't this thing happen? Oh, it happened." Yeah, but it should have happened naturally. Like, it didn't need that. Um cuz Cle was meant to be dramatic. But for me, it was like, "Oh, finally." Iumi orders Takuya and Koji to do something instead of watching even though she's also a character, but who cares? Touya and Koji say, "Hey, look, it's none of our business." In the dub, Zoe says that they caused the fighting because they were fighting and it's and then they both say, "Hey, it's not our fault." this. Sorry, I'm now thinking and I've never seen it before, but it would be really really funny if there was like a romance a romance anime with like a love triangle and there's two guys fighting over a girl and they're fighting and

23:51 she's kind of dumb. So, they're fighting and then it starts to rain because you fought too much and now the sky is sad. I can imagine I doing that apparently. So, have you noticed that so far in this movie we've just seen Tamaki on Jun's head and it's adorable? I honestly didn't even We've never seen this before and it's so cute. He spends like the first bit of the movie on his head. Then there's a UFO and it's actually an island. And here's something they never explain. What are the green threads? Um maybe they're like, you know, the green threads of Destiny. No, that's red. I know. So these are these big green glowing threads that are cut somehow. Jay, they're the green threads of plot. And then the island falls into the sand. Is that correct? Yeah. I think there was like they're meant to be sort of like these ropes holding it up, but it fall attached to I don't know what. Maybe

24:37 they're wires cuz it's the digital world but attached to the sky. The digi sky. But then it appears to sink all the way into the sand. The digi sand. And then the kids wake up and they're on the island and it's in the sky. The digi sky. So what happened? The plot happened. There had to be a better way to get them onto this island. The This is the most consistent thing in Digimon Frontier. No, in Digimon history. O, take that tamers. No. Like Yeah. Look at No, I mean as movies movie history like let's be real. Attack of Diaboron or whatever is a bit tainted because Willis created him. That's not No, that that's our war game. Um reven Count of Diaboron is the second part. Also, our war game

25:23 is just full of like digital nonsense and and convenient plot twists of like, oh, my computer stopped working and that's why the bad guy won. That movie has problems. As as as much as that is more entertaining than this movie, its plot isn't as strong. Oh, it's still probably the best Digimon movie. Like our war game. I'm gonna say the plot of this one is strong, but at the same and it's it makes sense later, but like it is not immediately clear in this movie why the beasts and the humans are fighting each other. It's like we hate them. Ah, you are scum. But yeah, so they wake up on this island. No, no. Before that, they're all commenting on something in the distance and I points it out. UFO. Touya and Koji say in unison. Again, it's not our problem, which is them saying what they just previously said. Also, it's not what

26:09 it's not in Tou's character to be like that. But who cares? It's in the plot. So, in the dub, they're saying that they have to stop it. So, it's the opposite of what they're saying in the in the original version. What does that mean? You have to stop it. Does that mean like if you saw a bird in the distance, oh, we have to stop it. Also, I'm pretty sure this line is in the original only, but Bakamon says it's the wandering island that forms from a different dimension. So, that's maybe what the green threads are. They're like this uh green threads of dimension plot. Totally nonsense. It's his book. So, then we get the opening, which is really kind of cool. Like the the opening title screen. Yeah. So, up against sort of like Jurassic Park. And you know what made me really sad? What? The dub didn't have word art. No, they had a big fire thing. Yeah. It was cool. And it looked like

26:55 the Digimon said how quality it was. Yeah. It looked like the Digimon Frontier logo, but the an English version of the Japanese Digimon Frontier logo. Are you sure? But it wasn't word art. It had that fire. Okay. It just had the same sort of like stylized fire, but it just made me really upset because it wasn't I was expecting really tacky word art. I had my fingers over the screenshot button. I was ready to do it. What if it was like Times New Roman, big bold, and like the rainbow? Oh my god. That word art rainbow. That's what this movie needed. This movie needed Times New Roman. Yeah, rainbow. No, it needed it needed comic sands. Comic sands with rainbow gradients and big shadows and a bit of thickness. Yeah. Um, and in terra bangs. No, those are too classy. So, Coton wakes up to Kuya. It's adorable. I I love the Kendommon. Yeah. Is that what

27:41 you called him in your notes? Yes. Are you still calling Koji Blue Man Group sometimes? Not in these notes. I like how you call Beakman and Tolmon. They're my favorite. The problem with Blue Man Group is it's way longer to say than Koji and when you're watching things fast. Was that just blue? K. K. Blue. Thank you. What? He's K blue. That's so easy. You lose no syllables. He says the same number of syllables. Yeah. You never know how to spell blue correctly. Just bl Ulu. K. K. It sounds like we're speaking French. K. Jun and are also where Tuya are, but Uzumi isn't. And Jinbe starts looking for her because he's thirsty. Cottomon says if um if the children are okay and Tkuya asks if Jinpe is okay but he's just calling out for Izumi Chan. Takuya

28:26 says no he's all right which is kind of funny. In the dub he says look he just he's just normally like this. Then a big machine shows up and Jun runs away from Max vehicle. Oh basically. Yeah. No, this this movie is pretty mad Max. Takuya in the dub and Tommy think it's cool instead of just wondering what's that? Is that dangerous? Are we going to die? Yeah. It's weird. They're really really different about it. Yeah. Like in the original like that's awesome. Are we are we going to die in the double like hey that's pretty cool and because they couldn't change the animation JP is still scared of it which is fine. That's understandable. That's um that's awesome. Tamoki wonders if it's a festival and everyone looks so sad for some reason. I can't actually remember why but they just everyone drips. Well, there are fireworks in the dub. JP says

29:12 that he thought he was the only big party machine. That's so crap. Get cuz he's fat. Then we see a statue of of a Digimon or something looks like a Digimon or And yeah, the Digimon explain that it's their guardian. And no, we think it's the guardian. According to legend, it might be. Yeah, it's like it's like what we said a few episodes ago. It's not a prophecy. It's an educated guess. It's not a very educated guess. It's a guess. It's not a prophecy. It's a guess. It's like ah Well, that this is honestly I saw this and I was like, "This plot sounds really familiar." You walk into a new place, there's a statue of a Digimon, and you say, "That's our guardian Digimon. I wonder if it's going to come to life and help us out." Turns out that's not the plot. Yeah, it's the opposite of It's the opposite of Shisimon. Yeah. Ah, the

30:00 Shisa. That's definitely not a Digimon. Remember in the dub how they just like just decided to call it? Oh yeah, that's Shisimon. It's definitely not a Digimon. Anyway, we're not here to talk about that movie again. Oh, we are. So, yeah, Bamon shows up. So, yay. And yeah, he just points he points out that there is an ancient Garummon and ancient Greymon on the wall and that they fought it because of Lucimon, which they've already mentioned before. In the dub, Bokamon seems to say ancient Gmon and ancient Gurummon as like they're two different words instead of just ancient Gurumon and ancient Gmon. It's like, oh yes, ancient Gmon and Gurummon as in it's like a descriptor rather than this is its name. It's confusing. It is. I still don't know what they're meant to be. Are they also different? Are they a level above? They're ancient Digimon.

30:46 So, is that above ultimate? They're more powerful than ultimate, but I think they're they're all technically ultimate level, but they're more powerful than ultimate. They're There are 10 of them. Are these holy beasts? No, they're all dead. What? They're They're extinct. It's weird they came back from this movie. They shouldn't have. Bakam was right. They're dead. They can't come back. Well, they didn't really come back. They were holograms of them. Yeah, there were like spirits of them, I guess. By the way, so are they from something? Uh, no. Is this a thing from Savers? No, no, no. Well, we already we remember how at the start of the show when we first found out about Lucimon, there was a big wall with all the the symbols of the spirits. So, this Okay, so the the spirits that the kids have and the evil spirits have are all descended from the ancient spirits. So, these are the legendary warriors. Yes, these these are the legendary These two are the legendary warriors. The kids

31:32 have the spirits of them, but these are actually them. Yes. And and you know, the show does a terrible job explaining this, that I have to ask you. Yes, I know. I'm glad that that I know then. So, Aunimon and Burning Greymon are like from descended sort of from like that the spirit of the legendary the legendary spirit warrior. This is dumb, but okay. Um, beyond the boundary. That That's good. I finished Space Revol by the way. You should watch that. You know what you should do? You should watch it. That's an hour and a half for the whole series. That That's not bad. You should watch it. Just Okay, fine. I'll watch it. Yeah, I'll watch the first episode with you tomorrow. Um, then Nemon says that the legendaries are great, but they should talk more about getting off the island. I'm like, "Thank you, Nemon. This is in the original." I swear he says we can't return from the digital

32:17 world. And I go, "What does that mean?" Was that in the dub or the original version? That's the subtitles, I think. Did Did you get the good subtitles or did you get the bad? I tried. It shouldn't work. You sent me another link to it. I don't know why. I already had this movie. So, what what does he actually say? Cuz clearly my version was wrong. So Neon says uh because I'm I'm guessing Bokamon. So Neon says, "Yeah, you should probably tell them about how we can't get off the island." And Bon's like, "Oh yeah, we can't get off the island. That's it. It's not the digital world." It's like we can't we can't return to the digital world. That doesn't make any sense. Why would they include this? Because it's they're in a different dimension apparently. No, but like even if you didn't see the thing, the reason you include this is for people is so that people like me don't ask, "Oh, why don't they just leave?" Right. Yeah. The kids were never going to leave. There's a war going on. Yeah.

33:02 But it's to explain to the the viewers. But the fact that you what you knew what you need there is a conversation where they say, "This isn't our fight." And then someone goes, "Yeah, it is and then you have that conversation which makes them seem like heroes, not like trapped by circumstance. This legitimately weakens them and in the dub Bamon lies. Bakamon says that they can't leave the island unless they wake up or Yeah, that was weird. And also pretty sure that's not how they're going to do it. They never mention it ever again. Yeah, that's the last time it gets a passing mention in Japanese at the end when Pokémon's like, "Yeah, we can get off the island now." But in in English, they it's it's like, "I would like a vacation." Oh, yeah. They cut the ending quite fast in the English version. They cut out a bit. Then a big explosion

33:48 happens and Digimon start fighting. The beasts are attacking and they're turning Digimon to dig eggs. Then then a straightup tank shows up. They're all tanks. I know. But I love it. There's like an like Where do they get where do they get this tank? When when have Digimon ever had tanks? I only sort of noticed halfway through the movie how weird that was. There are Digimon that are tanks. Yeah. Also, we know that shouldn't they be the enemy? Because there's human beast and machine. There's actually very few machine Digimon in this series, isn't there? Uh in Frontier. I don't think I've seen any. Yeah. Oh, we saw Kapurimon. So, if that counts, but there's very few. So, Kakuron, that's a bug. We do know from other seasons that Digimon are resistant to tank shells. Human tanks can't do anything to them. So why do these tanks so much better? Because they're digi

34:34 tanks. But that doesn't make any god. They're piloted by Also, they don't fire missiles. They fire what looks to be like just fireworks cuz they do make all the colors. They fire big explosives. Also, the tanks do not feel like they fit in this world. They don't look right. They're totally different. They're so colorful. They're completely different art style. They look at night. At night when they're all lit up like disco. Yeah. It looks like Disneyland t makes a haaki studio jibli movie. Hey, let me tell you something as a digital tactician that I am. If you have two sides that traditionally have tanks that light up like disco balls, right? If you are the smart side of that, at night time when everyone's lit up, turn the lights on your tank off. Opponents won't

35:20 be able to hit you anymore and you'll be able to see them. Yeah, but it's not as pretty. No, but it's important. Maybe, maybe. If you're in if you're in World War I and you're trying to cross the trenches at night, you don't carry like torches and stuff with you for people to shoot at. Mhm. The the opposition has to put up lights to see you. I listened to a big thing about World War I recently. I can tell. Takuya wonders if the Digimon just committed suicide. Like, okay, that's dark. I thought that was really weird. Like, did I miss something? Cuz they clearly didn't. Well, he doesn't he doesn't see where the explosion came from, so he thinks that they might have just killed themselves. Suicide is a weird thing for him to bring up in the first place. Wouldn't he just say, "What happened?" We see a Digimon that's Hippogrimon, which is what Shutamon should have looked like and it stopped the tank.

36:06 Then Darkmon shows up and tells the human Digimon to stop. And what I noticed is, which I found kind of interesting, is that they call her Darkmon's son. Like they give her an honorific. That never happens, does it? We've never seen this. I'm pretty sure we've never seen this happen. I could be wrong. Oh, quick question. Yeah. If you kill a Digimon high up in the air, does the egg fall to the ground and break? It should, but it doesn't. So, are they unbreakable? Maybe. Digi the unbreakable Digi Egg Schmidt. If Digi Time are unbreakable, why wouldn't you strap them to your tank? Diamond does not uncrash. Digi Egg does not uncrash. Digi eggs are not on crash. Fair enough. Jojo Digi Egg is unbreakable. Two things

36:53 are strong in the Digimon universe. Digi Egg and Isumi Bum. Fair enough. It can hit anything and still not win. Yeah. Um Isumi Bum does not in Crash then. Yeah. So I just found that as a really interesting thing that they don't usually get these honorifics and I don't know I found I mean I might be wrong there but anyway Darkmon then says that nothing good will come from all this fighting and she's against the fighting and says that hatred is useless and that she picks up a digitama and says we should pray so this digitama is revived. In the dub she doesn't really say much about the digama. She just keeps on saying basically that fighting will cause more fighting. Yeah. Yeah. She's really anti-war. Yeah. Which I mean, get ready for three minutes from now. It's not three minutes from now. Something like that. Oh, the her like her heel

37:40 reveal. Her No, no, not her heel reveal. Her big speech of we have to destroy all the beast. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She goes from between this on the same day, day to night, nothing has changed for the last thing that happened was this big battle at the end of which he said, "Oh, we peace is what we want. We don't want to fight anymore." At that night, she goes, "We have to destroy them all right now." I know it's purely to show the audience that, you know, oh, she's a good guy. No, this is a red herring. Yeah, I know. I know. As I said, it's a it's so the audience thinks she's a good guy. But I also want to say everyone seems to respect her. Hippo Griffimmon gets Sama at the end of his name. And he says the same things and seems to by Grison reacting like, "Oh, finally, I've been waiting so long for you to hear you say that." It seems that they've both been like trying to speech peace and

38:25 obviously, you know, red herring. But if we think about it as it not just trying to tell the audience it's a red herring, but to if if they're if she's been saying this lovely, you know, fighting isn't good, we should be friends, and all the Digimon seem to respect them, why haven't they listened to them? So, my theory on this, I actually did think about this a bit, was that what it probably is a a combination of the two things? And I think that it is split in such a way to give the audience an impression that like, oh, this person's a good person so that when later they're evil, it's a surprise. But I think what they've probably been doing is they've been saying war is so horrific. It's so awful that we probably shouldn't fight. But they've been doing such bad stuff to us. We can't stop now. Like it's probably they're ups they appear upset

39:12 to have like a moral high ground, but they're also they're they're not telling people we have to stop and in so doing they're allowing more atrocities to occur and then talking about how awful those atrocities are. Yeah. So peace talk might exist for the audience's sake. Why not? um and for appearances in general. But if you know that their end goal is for the war to continue, then you have to assume they're doing other stuff like these speeches where they say, "We must eradicate the beast now or the humans or whatever." So in the next scene, we see that and Koji are eating fruit and says, "Oh, this one tastes like chocolate." Then Kuman shows up and we see that Labraon's baby form, which is basically like a Labraon without a body. And Labraon's a dog from that evolves to Shisimon, by the way, just so

39:58 you know. Sure. And it's flopping around the table like a huge dork. And I'm I kind of love it. Kuman says that the other Digimon looking for their friends that they lost so they can just stay here and eat more apples. Everyone's really chilled out about these tank battles that are going around like right there. Especially the adorable baby Digimon who are my best friends. They're right there. How are they not evacuating? What happens when armies fight in a city is that everyone in that city evacuates. The human Digimon show up and start attacking. Grison moves Kuman out of the way. And so I get mad nostalgia for Kuman/Bammon and Grismon because in Digimon World 3 I took the pack that had the the Kuman and Kuman evolves to Grison and it was like my my favorite babies and I love them. And oh by the way just while we're on the topic of the best game ever Digimon World 2003. Did

40:44 you know that Kumamon and Gilman canonically can become Dukeon together? What? That's random. Why is that? Uh because that's what you progress in the game. That's a bad game, I think. Hey, it's a bad game. Hey, no, it's a bad game for bad people. No. Griezmann is Kermon's big brother, and I thought that was really cute. And he tells Bammon to tell Hippogrimon. In the dub, he tells him to take cover. Then we see Hippogriamon, and he gets called Hippogrimon Sama. And I'm just, it's really interesting that they get the honorifics. We see a Digimon who is actually the adult form of Goton whose name is Dano Human. Is this the shark? It's the big standing up person if that's what a shark looks like to you. You mean the p the man shark? Oh yes. You know all those sharks with legs. The

41:30 ones with gills and the skin that's that color and everything. It's a shark. He's a dinosaur. He's a shark. His name is Dino Human. He's a dinosaur human. He's also like it's where do they draw the line between what is a beast Digimon and what is a human Digimon. Shut them. There's the line. No, not Shimon. Cuz human is just just a person. No, she's she's the line. Like the Frogmons, right? Frogmons. What's it what's it called? Um the little one. The frog. Geckon. Geckon. Is that Is that human? Cuz it's on four limbs. It's beast. It's a beast. Yes. But human human look. That doesn't look like a have to have human face. Being a human look. What about centaon? That that's like it's both. So wait no but centauron. What about

42:16 that one? Um, also I really hope is human shaped but we know they're a beast. I hate it so much. Um, look, I hope the uh listeners actually know what ding-ding look is from because I'm pretty sure I I may have mentioned this at some point. Long story short, I bought a takyaki maker. It had English instructions. One of the one of the instructions was to like rotate yourself slowly on the fire. Ding ding. Look, an octopus ding. Cabbage ding. I think I did we did a reading, but I can't remember if that was in like the edited version or if we'd edit that out in one of the episodes, but um yeah. Um die on the stove. Rotate slowly. I'm trying to remember where the die came in. Die on the stove. Die on the stove.

43:01 Rotate the fire. Ding ding. Look. Just Just die on the stove. I forgot that existed. Yeah, you can die on the stove if you're angry enough. My fire rotating. My cabbage. Ding. My octopus. Ding. Ding. Me ejected from the club. Me ejected from the kitchen. Oh, why? Why are you like this? Why did you remember me? Remember, Kim? You're welcome. [Music] There is a lot of editing from this episode, but this bit stays cuz I feel

43:47 like everybody, Patreon supporter or not, deserves to know about ding-ding. Look, my fire rotated my octopus ding my cabbage ding. Me dead on the stove. [Laughter] Just kill yourself on the stove and rotate. I don't know. Let's see these crazy westerners cook try to cook tac and die. Have you ever written instructions thinking I wonder what the fatality count will be? Yeah, whoever invented CrossFit. Um, all right. So, yeah.

44:33 So they do this big horrors of war bit when there's a big fight and honestly half the episode is quote unquote there's a big fight to be real to be fair there's enough plot that it makes it's fine so Donna Hume wants Hippogrimon to come out and Grison says that he'll be his opponent then the beast attack and DHON says that that was sneaky and Grismont retorts that I could say the same about you. So it's because they've both been doing some sneaky stuff. No one's really the good guy here. Well, no one's a good guy because no one started anything. It was It's the leaders of both who was the same person. But they've all been doing some sneaky stuff to each other. Clearly, it's war. That's that's just what happened. Like in war, someone does something bad to you and you're like, "Okay, I can stop now." Or they do something bad to me, so I'll do something bad back. And that goes on forever. Well, you know what

45:18 they say, all spare and love and ding. Ding and war. Ding and war. Okay. So much it was easy. It was on the plate for you. Now go die on the stove and rotate slowly. Rotate thy fire. So, Hippogrimon has like this big tear of like, oh no, the horrors of war. And I found I really like this part. I mean, I I obviously came in knowing about the twist, but I I really like how dramatic he's like he's he's saying, "This is horrible." And there's all these flashes of all like all the death that's occurring and all these explosions and like it's really it is legitimately horrible. It's a really good like scene as well. Too bad the way they follow it up. So, he says he can't keep quiet anymore and that they have no choice but to fight the human Digimon. In the dub, he says that it has to be stopped and

46:03 the only way for it to ever stop is to destroy their enemy. Isn't that at the Isn't that during the night time? No, no, no, no. This is him saying it just to them. But then he makes a big speech of it later. That's in English. Well, this is in the dub. He says that we have to destroy them. This is sort of like the moment in the original where he's like, we have no choice but to fight. But in the dub, he's like, yeah, let's let's just destroy them. Let's make them die on the stove. So, I really got the sense of like, oh, the horrors of war, it's really awful. They've there all these explosions and dudes dying. I also wonder if the digital one would act differently around the humans if they knew that humans don't come back. Cuz war in in the digital world is not such a bad thing cuz no one really dies. Imagine if in war in real life, right, you shot someone in the face and it became a baby. Not only did it become a baby, but it became a baby who will be fine and you don't have to feed or

46:49 anything. You can just leave there and they'll be they'll be fine eventually. They'll grow up. Also, what I like about is all about all the Digimon dying is that we get to see all the Digi eggs and they're the Digi eggs that we've seen that the adventure kids have. I never because of all the paths everyone does evolve into those and it's just they look the same. I know some of the Digi eggs are just the same as the adventure kids like, oh that that one was Agamon, that one was Gon. It's it's it's interesting to me personally. I got the my primary question is this episode honestly is like the most jarring things in it and even the worst the something that you said episode it's this movie and something I keep bringing up sort of in references mostly through tea is you've just gone from this horrible war scene which is nothing we've ever seen in Digimon one before and it's legitimately meant to be harrowing of

47:34 like this is really dark and things are really bad and then you get we're going along a pond oh we all fell in no we're sneezing what is this what's this tone what is happening? And it's quite a beautiful setting as well, but I think it's to show that the baby Digimon and Cottoon, there's no war for them. They're not involved in this war. It's not their war. It's the war their brothers are having, but they're happy. They're they're enjoying their life. That makes the war less important, which means the plot of the show is less important. The plot of the movie is less important. Please don't call Buckamore not important. No, but like this scene makes it not important. Why would they put this in here? This advances nothing. They fall in, he gets a sneeze, and then they never talk about the sneeze is the most No, the sneeze is the most

48:21 important thing in this movie cuz it keeps on happening and even happens at the end. And I I just think it's it's funny how consistent that is, but battle damage in the episode where Jon pay evolves to his be spirit. And for some reason, they just have flip-flopping damage. So, I just find it funny that a sneeze is more consistent than battle damage. And you flip flamage. Flip flamage. In the dub, instead of just silence, they're all talking about how they're going to find their friends. And when they all have the the bit of snot drip, they all they all just laugh. But in the dub, because Cottomon doesn't have a mouth, he says nose. Hey guys, you're all leaking. Oh, me too. So, you must have them. It's just in shadow. Yeah, but we don't. We don't. Not a visible mouth. No. Oh, cuz he can say whatever he wants. Yeah, it's the dub's field trip day. But yeah, this is an emotional whiplash of a scene. just it's

49:07 not it's uncomfortable but not like in an interesting way. And then it immediately goes back to war when all the kids meet up and says that Du and the others are wrong and that the human Digimon attacked out of nowhere and Duya says that the beast Digimon did the same thing. Bakamon and Neon are looking back and forth and it's like this most adorable thing that's like you need to look exactly at them, but they're just like and like they've got they've got their arms out and they're kind of like pointing like but this uh huh. It's adorable. Cooji um is really annoyed that Takuya and the others are siding with them. In the dub, Koji actually insults the human Digimon and says that they deserve to be destroyed, which is kind of dark. Yeah. Like they I feel like in the English, so in the Japanese, they're sort of referencing it. They're like, "Oh yeah, I think the humans are right. Oh, I think the beasts are right." And then they sort of start arguing because they already had tension

49:53 going on and this is just an element of that. In the English, it's full on like, "I hate you and your opinions on this specific issue." Takuya in the This is on Koji's face. So, I'm in K Blue's face. Takuya in the original says that if he keeps on insulting the human Digimon, he won't forgive him. And Koji says, "Well, I won't either." And then they start fighting. Junade cheers on Tuya, but Isumi wants him to stop. In the dub, JP still cheers on Kuya. But Zoe tells JP off for encouraging him, and JP sarcastically says, "Oh yes, we should just stand back and watch Koji defend barbaric monsters." And then Tommy cheers says, "Go JP." It's like, why was this extra bit needed? Why do we need them to fight as well? I like the fact that Isumi doesn't is sort of like not sure about the whole thing. Like she doesn't actually want to punch anyone about it. So yeah, Duya sneezes on K

50:40 Blue, which is Coach's new name. Cottomon and Kon tell them to stop and they start crying and they say that they're friends and they'll get in trouble if they get caught. We're best friends. In the dub in the dub, they say best friends. It's adorable. Okay, I just love them so much. Then they say, "If you keep our secret, we'll promise to show you something cool." So they do. And then they start praying to Ornismon. Bokeamon's trying to read the hieroglyphics and can only read the dig code. The the dig code. This is the first time we've ever seen. No, the digi code is okay. So, it's annoying that the they they keep on flip-flopping what they call the digi code because it's clearly meaning the digi code within the digi eggs as we've heard before, which is called fractal code in the English version, but they they still call it digi code in this version, which is in this movie, which is weird. So they're

51:25 referring to the digi code meaning the the data from the fallen digi eggs. I thought they were talking about but they think it's about assembling like the wall and it's Yeah, they're going to build the wall. It's going to be the best wall. It's going to have a big bird on it and ancient Gurummon and ancient Greymon. So the hieroglyphics say Digi Code will awaken the wings of the seabird. In the dub it says return the Digi Code to the wings of the bird. Okay. Touya says if they figure out a meaning, it may stop the fighting. In the dub, he says that maybe that Ornismon's sleeping and he needs a dig code to wake him up. A big sleepy. Dum human shows up and he throws a knife at them and he just tries to kill him. He throws Kuman to the side and it's the most heartbreaking thing ever. How could you? His hat says bears. Oh my gosh, it

52:12 does. They're all They all start fighting and they're all calling each other oppressive and horrible. In the dub, they're just saying how sick of each other and how much they hate each This was the time of the episode I noticed. We still don't know why they don't like each other. Um Oh, no. It's because they don't. They're not. It's because of the war that we knew happened before Frontier which Lucimon stopped but then went evil. No, but like these part if you asked them why are you fighting? Could they cite a reason besides we are fighting? Um human Digimon and beast Digimon are said to like inherently be enemies. But that's not what that's not an answer they would give you, right? Cuz they wouldn't say we're slaves to our nature in this. They're basically being forced to fight each other. No, no, I know that's I know that that's the twist. But if you asked Dino Human what what was the reason you

53:00 guys began fighting? Because they're attacking us. Okay. Why have they done that? Because But if you ask Grison, Griezmann would say because they're attacking us. Okay. If you ask them, if you ask the beasts then who how did it begin? They attacked us. Somebody had to be the first to go. I think it would be something along the lines of Darkmon or Hypocr would say, "Hey, they're they're planning an attack. We have to plan an attack back in advance." Yeah, but some so somebody had a preemptive strike. I know they didn't say that, but what if they were both going to attack each other, but it's the old sort of thing like, "Oh, so and so wants to talk to you." And then you tell the other person, "Hey, so and so wants to talk to you." So they both talk to each other. It's the same thing like, "Oh, so so and so wants to invade. Let's fight them before they fight." And then you say the other thing. So they both meet at the same point thinking that the other's

53:45 going to attack and they both attack. But I'm wondering if it's not if it's like oh yeah 300 years ago we thought one of them had Digi Oil so we went over there and just no one remembers anymore. But like it'd be interesting if you ask them what their what they think the beginning is. Oh, I have no idea. But they never cover it because I don't think there's a good answer. No, I think my answer was all right. Yeah, your answer is fine, but I don't think the writers had a good answer. We need to look at Bakamon's book. It would say in Bookamon. Bookamon. Duya throws down Dino Human's knife. In the dub, Duya and Koji keep saying no more, no more, and they evolve instead of it just being silence. So, their spirit evolved to Aunimon and Koji evolved to Guramon. So, they're using the human spirit and the beast spirit. And in the original, I really like the music that's playing. In

54:30 the dub, it's just the normal music. Aunimon tackles the human and Garamon tackles the beast. In the dub, as they tackle, they both say no more. So, they keep on saying no more. I don't know why it's like never more. They both think they're the raven. Qu the takuya. No more. Qu the gurum. Never more. That actually did happen in um uh that happened in WCW. Chris Benoir was fighting Raven. So he had a promo. Oh, that's adorable. Chris Benoir was called was his his um nickname was the crippler. Yeah. So he goes quote the crippler no more. And then he killed his family. That's really uncomfortable. Yeah. At least one of his sons is still alive. Woof. Well, I'm so glad you only killed one of them and his wife. Also, that son is a wrestler now for some reason. Woof. Why would you do

55:15 that? I don't know. Your father had too many concussions. He still wrestles under the name Benoir. I guess I guess not for WWE. Well, yeah, obviously. Oh, yeah. See, I'll put in the show notes want to read the saddest story you've ever read in your life. Maybe maybe they can look it up themselves. No, because I I'll put in the show notes cuz the link up or whatever I'm calling WCW to Rrestling. Griezmann and Dino Human tell they the younger ones to come with them. And so this is just Romeo and Julon, right? Sort of except that they're small children and they're both dudes probably. They're Digimon. They're Digimon. Two houses both are like in in dignity. Indigenity digity. It's dignity, but it's digi.

56:01 Okay, fair enough. Digity in fair digital world where we lay our scene. I don't know the intro to Rome Juliet, so that was pretty good. Oh yeah, they made us they made us know it. I also know the uh hand me my sword and in the the local the modernized version, he reaches for a gun. In the Basman one, get me my horse. It's a helicopter. The Basman one. The gun sword written on I know. That's the one I'm talking about. Sword 45. Yeah. And the broad and the broadsword that above the mantelpiece is a shotgun. Yeah, I love that. It's so funny. I should watch that again. It made no sense. I liked it. I think it's I think it's on Netflix. Anyway, so Tamoki has a glowing thing in his hand and he says

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