A Quick Guide to Big Finish Classic Who- Flip AND Constance.

0:00 [Music] you don't know where you Treasures of [Music] hisory all works Dre previously on big finishes classic Doctor Who the sixth doctor Constance asked the doctor to take her home flip

0:46 got married and the doctor didn't T Perry is married to Brian bled dead bit and middle-aged and missing most for memory SL working as a wrestling manager Perry's continuity is a hell of a time Mel is yet to be introduced slash has been one story already he is yet to be introduced and is kind of annoyed about it Charlie is unique SpaceTime event and eel is still dead but only two of these matter for this video hello and welcome to the quick guide to Big finish classic Who constant and flap in case you missed the earlier stories I'm going by companions because from most classical releases big finish didn't have serieses the stories to jump around each doctor's timeline and as far as I can tell there's no official authoritative agreed upon timeline for adventure shares so I separate them out

1:31 by companion hopefully it'll make things easier for everyone and make it harder for me to miss any stories this is about what I call the Dream Team Constance and FP the perfect mix of companions almost grown in a lab to compliment each other and to refuse to take any of the doctor's [ __ ] doctor her husband shacked up with some other woman she thought it was me at first oh Constance I'm sorry I had no idea I know you have no idea when it comes to certain things doctor well you could say that again um so nor more replacement then are you difficult to say the doctor doesn't exactly do things in chronological order H good point I know does he still wear that coat

2:19 yeah on the understanding that once everything is happily concluded I return you both back to your own times and places right where we left off has previously agreed I don't stand a chance against two of you do I come along then ladies you and me Connie I reckon we've got him on the rad quite here I am you two I said I wouldn't belong well about time well anything interesting happened not exactly right then because we can visit the pump room and the prominade but unfortunately the tickets for this evening's grand ball eluded me is it sold out more case of lack of resources you mean you didn't have the cash do you know how much they were charging no

3:05 never mind we're still going to enjoy ourselves oh yeah la I am not nor am I the great deliverer nor the fairy man we had wondered oh don't you start no we had actually really busy City technologically quite Advanced I'd say an earth Colony judging by the architecture doctor you can't possibly know that at a glance I don't know is a bit of an earth spotter isn't he our doctor with his pocket guide to human stuff and his little pencil to Circle what he sees yes thank you flip okay news flash this isn't my wedding and this isn't 1944 doctor you said you were taking me home yes I'm sorry about that I'll get you there eventually but something came up oh here

3:52 we go brace yourself for Rel load of space jargon Conny quite well just for that I was going to offer you both the shelter of my umbrella but now I'm not so sure oo well come on budge up I'm getting soaked out here oh all right if it was any other doctor except for maybe 12 or one this might constitute bullying I mean he's not allowed to call them constant and Philipa he has to call them Mrs Clark and flip well they can call each other what they like flip even gets away with calling constant Connie and she likes sad philipper constant oh Connie I like it when you call me Connie oh I was never sure well I do then Connie it is out of all the doctors six is the strongest largest personality and

4:38 this is perfect for keeping him from dominating everything five was constantly surrounded by a crowded Tardis and he was so Meek that he crumbled under the weight of everyone else but six can easily hold his own anyway the first story is Quick Silver the doctor takes constant's home kind of he literally takes her home instead of Bley Park and it's not the day she left but Mons later she's not annoyed though because apparently she requested to [Applause] leave ah thank you director 3 months leave from Bletchley was just the ticket though I'm afraid I may have ended up taking slightly longer which she definitely didn't do in crisscross they were explicit that she was to left home when she left so it was though she never laughed so either they came back earlier

5:24 and requested leiting stories or this is a rat coin it's a rat coin because this a lot of drama going on and there's not enough room to add constant being [ __ ] off at the doctor for making her deserter destroying her career and possibly endangering her life because deserters were sometimes shot and we we get some extra context why she left with the doctor not only is her husband missing but the morning he left to go on a mission she found out he was having an affair darling it looks like dinger's here with a car Shan be a moment my dearest h well that's not my writing nor my scent so Constance is back home and she finds a telegram informing her that he's not only having

6:09 an affair and missing but dead that undelivered telegram was delivered leftenant Commander Henry Clark Lost In Action two weeks ago they can't even tell me where it was the Constance meanwhile the doctor meets an alien called kinar who's on the run from the valal milary species locked in a war he doesn't want to be drafted and tried to get the doctor's help and he was at Bletchley Park and crisscross but just misam so kvar decided to bar to some alien Tech with a British soldier Henry Clark constant's husband to make this even more complicated they all end up a few years in the future in Vienna in 1948 where con's husband is living with his new wife Anna who he met doing spy work during the war and the meter confused young woman called flip and

6:55 take her in I'm thinking this must be to do with the doctor you're sure you don't know him you need a doctor do you feel unwell no I don't think so perhaps you are still confused from your journey I reckon I must be it's him isn't it just the kind of thing he'd do spring of surprise honeymoon only someone should have told him if you're going on honeymoon it's normal to bring your husband along flip was grabbed by the valal from a wedding reception you see the do accidentally dropped his invitation to the wedding and the valal found it and decided that should be perfect l average on um I knew you wouldn't miss it doctor I was really hoping you'd make it along okay so you missed the registry office and the first punch shop but there should still be

7:41 some cake left I save some especially doctor are you there is that you flip was a NB with a Time scoop thing used to grab people and deposit them at a different time and place I think I was first seen in the five doctors Flip's description even lines up with how it looked in the remastered five doctors what's that hello uhoh of course weird floaty whirpool hanging in the air it's got to be you doctor though I do prefer the original 80s version much more primitive but much freakier and in Vienna constant runs into her husband assumes it flips the woman he's having an affair with and well she's

8:27 brutal well is isn't this nice what a Charming little scene Constance Constance is that you it is Henry aren't you going to introduce us and look you've attracted a young admirer quite the onu oh yeah constant was it wait a minute you might have got the wrong idea I know who you are and I've have no wish to make your acquaintance well hang on am I missing something you are missing your morals my word now this sounds a bit like a soap Opera and to its credit it's not the drama treats all the characters as fairly as possible even conant's husband Anna was when you work with someone in that intensity that danger sir I wasn't

9:15 thrilling enough for you we married young Constance I was in service always away I should have known better than to have my head turned by a dashing sub tenant straight from University I'd never seen London I'd barely met any men are you saying I took advantage no I'm saying you should have had the decency to let me know I'm not going into detail about the Sci-Fi stuff because it's not the important part of the story but it is mostly good this is a very strong run and this is one of the weaker stories but it's easily in the level of the good earlier flipping constants ones not as good as their very best but easily above average one amazing bit in this is when the doctor through some sci-fi [ __ ] ends up projecting a 30ft tall version of himself offering Time Lord robes to

10:01 intimidate the valal and their enemy into Pace it's glorious one more shot and you will feel the wroth of galif fray 10 million years of absolute power 10 million years of absolute power visited upon the houses of v and zerith zerith and V alike hear me om MJ what happened the doctor TI of a house and what is he wearing I thought the coat was bad enough HH philipper the uniform has its uses what are you why do we obey I am a time lord lord president of galife no less we are Watchers of the

10:47 universe our view spans all of time and space you can only imagine the power we will oh that collar that hat if that's how he poshes up on his Planet I'm glad he didn't come to the wedding after all he'd have sh me right out andway flip decides against going home right away because she has more important things to do like make firm friends with constant Philippa I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship and be one of the best tartest teams in the show's history their first trip in the Behemoth takes him to 18th century England for a pure historical one of six is very few and written at Colin Baker's request I hope you requested again soon

11:33 I love pure historicals for a reminder pure historicals are historicals where there's no sci-fi elements beyond the Tardis crew and the Tardis so no Alien Invasion or time melting or whatever around the same time they made the peterl massacre and both are designed to be about dark chapters in Britain's past in the peterl massacre it's the peterl massacre where the Army massacred protesters for democracy and the Behemoth it's slavery the problem is while Peter Lou is a serious and model in affair with a proper sense of impending doom the Behemoth is kind of a silly melodrama that runs into slave every so often and it's a good melodrama what with each of the crew finding an admirer the doctors is Mrs middleman an older rich Widow with a tiny dog who helps get out of a bubble imposed on her

12:18 by society and her family what must his majesty have thought if he was really there I hope my tricks compensated for his disappointment oh I'm sure oh doctor my dear brother would not approve of us taking hot chocolate together of the coffee house oh I was never inside one before it is so insalubrious is he really that protective then I apologize for leading you astray oh no no the company is most congenial even if it's charms are obscured by other people's Pipe smoke but the most agree sight of all doctor is barely obscured at

13:04 all it was honestly kind of touching no romance just vague possibilities and a connection kind of reminded me of one and kamaka back in the azex and I am content to spin the time here like the others oh but their minds are old kamica and that's something I'm sure yours will never be your heart is Young constant falls in with a Scottish abolitionist and even considers staying and joining with Wilbur Force the leader of the British abolitionist in Parliament Constance a penny for them well I thought I might stop traveling I could seek out William wilburforce and help the abolitionists but I know too much don't I I might upset the apple cart and

13:49 the abolition act will happen anyway yes silly idea not at all and flip poor flip gets the attention of a silent movie villain who owns a plantation and plants and dragging her to Jamaica of his unwilling bride if the steam train was invented he'd have tied her to the tracks at least twice who's that good morning Mrs Ramon get off me into the wagon with you get off ow let me out let me out Craven drive up the road to Bristol if you please I'll be right behind you I don't want anything from you take your time my love consider your position lost and alone and with an offer you cannot refuse you have until morning but now I

14:38 have the means to start a proper managerie am I included in that you're running out of time so your proposal I know it's just a business deal not true love at all or whatever that is and well I suppose I might be interested but your hard in my league are you I mean you'd have to prove yourself worthy you insulting baggage and the other problem is well the clue is in the name Mrs Ramon you see the ring that cost Jared a week's pay where we are going that will not be an obstacle philippon or clar and why can't I have both well just like a man well tough claraa here come on out you come

15:27 hys no philipper Put the gun down never heard of pistol whipping get out of my way how very endearing bewitching is she not running away like that what were you thinking she is tired too much exhilaration of course come on now I'll take that no ow thank you come away philipper Connie come away they came for me I said they would Constance was there too late now you can write to them the uh ladi's cabin is below sir don't you look at me like that don't you dare separate cabins Madam I respect your sensibilities these matters take

16:13 time mine is an evil laugh also in the mix is Lady claraa famous rhinoceros also known as The Impossible rhinoceros who is touring Europe at the time with her dut Jer a RH CL lady claraa is a rhan and the most important element because their plight ties all together a married couple called gambi and Sarah slaves only the cruel s Jeffrey balam brother of Mrs middleman G GBE are you there over here in the shadows oh Sarah

17:00 there is food here from the table oh so hungry did they see you no I was careful where will you go I came for you we can run together no they are hunting you sir Jeffrey said you hurt a man burned him I did not mean to I had no choice someone is coming hide yourself doctor there is someone there on the pile of Rags oh he's had a nasty beating poor fellow look at the state of his back and now they're done they chucked him

17:46 aside k kick over the fire my brothers the slavers are coming him K I am here is it the dawn yet don't let them see me and don't tell her hide me away it is me this is often fantastic but be warned that the first half of the story moves at a very deliberately glacial pace for much of the start we're basically getting to hear six constant and flip just react to the time period a bit like Statler and Waldorf these long skirts it's a different way of standing correct department oh fing in with the past as usual

18:31 1756 oh whatever but it's like I'm back at my wedding I know on Parade I thought I'd got over all that you look all right though Connie oh thank you it suits you too you know really that must look like a walking Mor no you don't oh tush tushy keep still what is that it's a pug it's more like a walking sausage R Sarah take the dog yes master that's never had a good run in its life oh help me out help me out me if I'm the morang she's the full Pavo stop it rotten eggs you think they'd do

19:16 something about the pawn now that's the sulfur from the thermal spring which is meant to be medicinal oh it is highly acious does wonders for the muscles OMG they go in fully clothed look at them but no one's actually swimming just walking up and down and it's called taking a turn around the pool history you see full of surprises isn't that worth the trip and I bet they haven't invented chlorine yet invented so Oliver and a do I have to wear gloves toer I'm afraid but only in the ballroom not at supper oh that makes all the difference I think one might miss out the dancing that would be asking for trouble oh you and me both it's still complicated it's like line

20:01 dancing the grannies sir Roger and lady and then suddenly it all takes off and honestly the first half is the stronger half I just love flipping constant reacting to the 18th century to its weird ways to its terrible shed and to the doctor for fitting in so well might I have the honor oh sir you may indeed can't look you'll never get away with it except that good grief is rather good at least you've abandoned the coat creatures not too tight quite elegant I thought I'm still in shock pretty sure they mentioned the doctor's dick there the stuff about slavery though is kind of a disappointment the characters are

20:47 very stalk they St the story so we can learn a very important lesson that slavery is bad the Caribbean that is where your brothers will have been taken for sale to the plantation on and then the same ships bring sugar coffee and tobacco grown by the slaves back to sell in England that's how it goes in a vile Circle Philip Naylor died for denouncing the slave trade I see this in every land we visit it is nature of man the strongest crashes the weak Sarah yesterday I drank hot chocolate in a well-to-do coffee house how many Liv slaves did that cost you think there are good people here too but the slave trade is England's dark

21:35 heart it's kind of like orphan 55 honestly but forgivable because recent history has demonstrated that UNS subtle is sometimes [ __ ] necessary and with the doctor also convinces a slave rebellion to put down their arms and Destroy them without Bloodshed we have weapons now you can barely stand and your back needs treatment as for the guns do you really need to use the doctor is right they are bad weapons made with slave workers blood then how do we fight there are better ways believe me the doctor is right it is true these guns are bad my brothers they are full of wickedness throw them into the dragon's mouth the wise decision GBE thank you this whole place is bad yes you're right there

22:21 obviously they end up okay because it's Doctor Who and they wrote it that way but this is very much new who's more liberal IDE of morality speaking to Classic Hui big fash it's the idea that Revolution is bad and there's always a better way without violence that the moral Arc of the universe is long but bends towards Justice without people forcing it and this idea is literally part of the story what with Constance offering to help Wilbur Force end British slavery but the doctor told her that it would bend that way without her help Constance a penny for them well I thought I might stop traveling I could seek out William wilburforce and help the abolitionists but I know too much don't I I might upset the apple cart and

23:08 the abolition act will happen anyway yes classic who was often stupid I mean time flood exists but it was much more nuanced and realistic on this kind of thing than youo revolutions happen they are violent people die but sometimes they are necessary because pure pacifism from the oppressed just gets them killed this was the point of the dialects all the way back in 1963 they're afraid of you because you're different from them so whatever you do it doesn't matter what would you have do fight against them I didn't say that but you must teach them to respect you show them some strength but you really believe we ought to fight yes I think it may have to come to that I wonder if there's any point in reminding the THS of what they used to be why oh

23:54 they're opposed to fighting we were trying to convince them that it was a necessity for their own Survival anyway I do not like how the matter of slavery is handled in this it's very neat stalk and deliberately is unchallenging as possible the villains are villainous the victims are peaceful and they end up okay the doctor's friend Mrs middleman has a slave for instance but the story never grapples with that I just wanted the slaves to call Sun makers on their oppressors is that too much to ask for anyway apart from all that and that is a big all that this is a really fun story I love a pure historical and the mix of the doctor being in his element and Conant and flip riffing everything was

24:41 just fantastic I wish to do more of that next up is the middle and it's as Clos as we ever likely to get to Terry Gilliam at his best doing Doctor Who the tree who arrive in the planet fam the names actually clu as to what's going on I see we've landed I think some fresh air May in order oh I don't think it'll be quite fresh Mrs Clark I'm detecting a heavily recycled atmosphere H but it appears they've added a little bit of flavoring anyway they're in a city totally enclosed in a planet and there's no one over 35 anywhere to be seen life is nothing but ease and joy one big party called the beginning oh I do hope we can find something better to do even a spot of deadly Peril would be fine well I'm sure some deadly Peril will be

25:27 along in due course Mrs Clark but you may be in luck flip it looks like they're having some kind of Carnival down below oh that will do the trick doctor this is perfect that's one way of putting it I've never seen so much public debuchy just you wait for V day I'm sorry I rather like it down here everything's so vibrant who would think that it's all fun in games until you hit 35 which Constance is about to do you see at age 35 you were Zapped from the beginning and taken to the middle who run the city a never ending office kind of like Brazil or Loki and there you get given a job which you do until exhausting every day with almost no time off it reminds constant of Bletchley Park time to wake up my

26:15 dear what where am I we don't take kindly to staff falling asleep at their desks but as you're a new arrival I'll let it slide well am am I back at Bletchley I have no idea what you're saying no All Glass all windows this must be this is the middle welcome the middle and happy birthday 35 is a year of new responsibility there will be a welcome celebration for you at the end of The Working Day with cake but for now just get your feet under the table try and introduce yourself around and as for the doctor he nearly broke the Asia taxing machine ah now I may be something of a surprise

27:02 to you scanning scanning subject AG subject H 98 98 176 321 457 646 6 6 6 systems overload systems overloading systems overloading serves your right for being such a nosy Parker and was sent to the end where you go when you hit 7 Day all the elderly are sealed into power armor to fight an eternal War to keep the city safe from Alien Invaders the cover art honestly doesn't do the suit Justice I mean look at that and listen to this clip robotic suit conscript received locking EXO armor stop that right now I'd rather my appendages weren't encased in heavy

27:48 armor thank you very much not that anyone ever listens to me the universe is renowned for paying no ouch do be care careful oh if you've quite finished no no now that I can't abide desist immediately I do not carry guns particularly not large ones so kindly stop attaching them to me that is more like Space Marine armor disappointing choice cover obviously there's more to it than what I've talked about but I don't want to spoil it too much seeing as it's even more stuff beyond the stuff I'm not telling you about this is a plot that hits you with twists and then never stops honestly I

28:35 love that the ultimate explanation of what's going on seems to be a bit contentious it was just such a realistic feeling type of bastardy taken to a ridiculous degree andway the story makes the most of the setting by splitting the team up flip in the beginning constant in the middle and the doctor at the end all making friends doing their best to communicate meet up again and ultimately win it's very neat but it has some problems one it means that the best element of the year is lost for most of it flipping constant is dialogue separate they're great together they're amazing oh come on no secrets not between us I'm 19 he's 900 and whatever he says today and you are 35 I am 35 now can we leave it at that doctor

29:24 this had better be Planet IB for or something cuz I've got a r party to organize what we're in the middle of a technological Marvel in that case there's got to be somewhere around here I can get some t-shirts made who fancies a truck down a fire escape Ren party oh I you I really don't want all this first I'm not sure You' have much choice in the matter I got it spa spa yeah do it with your mom every year she goes littley for a SP day how would you feel Connie about a proper birthday Pampa well I'm not sure oh the last time we visited a spa that was back in 1700 and something on the other side of the square I saw this place that looked like a health spot massages facials that kind

30:09 of thing only with robots I suppose it sounds rather more civilized in a a ren party that's right is it all right but we're still calling it a ren party a feeling I'm going to regret this and two it is kind of convoluted const flips his Newland just happened to be father and daughter what a stroke of luck but I suppose the world and plot is extremely complicated and that kind of stream lines at and the cast is very strong here most notably Mark heat from spaced as the middleman the Sinister manager of the middle your age today 60 sir I see 10 more years how does that feel I must say I'm not looking forward to it myself too much to do first I'm excited at the

30:55 prospect the great unknown your departure will benefit your world who all salutes the Army in the end the end I salute you the end is the beginning and what a beginning you are our whole civilization looks up to you with unfathomable respect what you will do in the next 24 hours will echo through our future history your lives have been lived well there's also a lot of lovely character stuff involving the elderly trips most notably a couple who been married for over 50 years and are reging to go into combat together Roman and I celebrated our 51st wedding anniversary last week doctor oh congratulations though I can't imagine

31:42 these suits go well with a candle at me oh we made it work means he can still pick me up anyway Carry Me Across the Threshold and all that 51 years it's got in Flash isn't it and remember our first date at the ice rink you showed me how to go backwards now don't get soy we've got a guest I'll take every opportunity to be soy here after when you're getting ready for war this is just fantastic all around Colin Baker agreed he quite liked the way they set up soci side in this planet I think the midle Tells a great story let the young you know run around have fun and Frolic and all that let the people in the middle age do what they do and then

32:28 let the old people have a damn good time smashing Everything To Pieces so uh I approve of that anyway here's some highlights because it's that good I guys what the dark on CCTV computer camera 342 please 342 full screen hold on please check color balance color balance correct that coat actually looks like that the tree when a SP together just listen to The Very Odd sounds coming from constant in the background you're two friends friends how old aren they you can't ask that Miss Clark here is a lady a lady who's just turning 35 oh so that's why you're here a goodbye py goodbye to what well a freedom what and you're and of course flip obsessively

33:15 calling their outing a ran party as a reference to a hen party's got some spare tickets for an all nighter in the west Square oh come on so we fancy it Ren party Ren party I'm not sure static comes next and it's one of big finish's masterpieces and there will be spoilers it's the80s and the tree will arrive in a small Caravan Park where it's forbidden to use radios TV anything that can pick up static because when you use them the voices of the Dead can phone you an impenetrable Mist will descend time will stop and the dead will arrive think of this as big finish's answer to both the empty child and blank as in it goes full on horror there's wild Time stuff going on and it involves World War III it's a rare story because

34:01 it's almost perfect from the acting to the plot to the scripting to the sound design I've have almost no complaints if you only listen to one of these stories make it static but please listen to more than one of these stories they're uncommonly good also in the mix there a young couple who recently had a family tragedy the girlfriend's sister drowned and they both blame themselves for that so anyway I I brought some photo of of Susanna I can't believe this you know so we can remember her for what she was like when she was alive hang on some of these are from the holiday from the day that she died yeah I know I I had to film in my camera for ages put

34:47 them away what I don't want to look at them put them away all right all right I and the boyfriend has heard rumors about this site there's also an eccentric elderly War veter who runs the Caravan site by himself and will destroy in electronics he finds them hey what's going on Percy please just put the axe down hey I told you no radios no cassette players no televisions he's been there almost always alone ever since World War II when the local area was a top secret installation being run by the Royal Air Force until the main building burned down under circumstances that no one will talk about Elsewhere on the grounds there's an ancient stone circle with

35:32 twin altars in the center and trees that grow mindless human bodies this is a very unusually shaped story between half and three quarters of it just set up just vibing in the horror and atmosphere until it finally unleashes The Who sci-fi stuff in the last part I'm not complaining though the slow bur horror atmosphere is the best part of an excellent story six gets to be unusually conniving almost like a precursor to Sav being unemotional when needed callously using someone and bringing flip to a breakdown for the greater good the sh it I can't really avoid this spoiler so I'm just going to say it in part three the doctrine constant are in World War II in the secret base meeting the caretaker a young man while flip is in the modern day with most of the main cast and the

36:18 phone starts ringing the phone we should leave it we don't know who else it will be it'll be someone else who's dead and I think we've got enough I'm going to answer it listen I don't think that's a good idea but are you going to stop me hey well I got rid of it bottom of the septic tank oh it's going on now he's calling now oh look how am I supposed to know all right I'll answer it hello no well who was it flip who was it who did you hear hold on somebody's coming through now I can see him oh

37:05 my I don't believe it oh where am I oh what happened Connie and that's not even the Cliffhanger instead they save the Cliffhanger for the Shar reveal that aliens are being nefarious it is time philipper time time for for what for the rest of us to come the rest of who anyone who is brought back carries us within them we are the static we are the static constant but we are merely the first the first of many this is how good the story is my biggest complaint is that they

37:51 Cliffhanger the wrong thing Constance is dead and they Cliffhanger the aliens anyways so what was going on in World War II the Air Force knew about the weird properties of the area and have been calling dead Airmen back if they don't answer the missing is still alive if they arrive they're dead and are questioned about their final minutes for Intel and Technical faults anything that would help the war effort sir they're coming through now good Lord there are over a dozen of them that's it keep coming we're expecting you hey where are we where's my plane gentlemen as far as you're concerned a couple of seconds ago your planes were on far then they get sent back into the Mist where they came from it's

38:38 delightfully [ __ ] up anyway I don't want to give away any more spoilers just listen to it but have some facts David Graham plays the caretaker in his 20s and his six days okay I'm going to give you a couple of seconds guess how old you think David Graham was when he played the part I'm the site manager there is one more thing yeah a little rule the use of radios cassette recorders and portable televisions is strictly forbidden describe what you saw extensive construction work and dozens of anti-aircraft imp placements that's what brought us down sir it gone yes sir we flew right into it the engines caught fire and we went into a tail spin the answer is 91 years old a 91-year-old

39:26 playing a 20 something and mostly pulling it off he's not the most famous but Graham is a voice acting legend in the UK he made his Who debut back in the 60s as one of the two original voice actors for the DXs in their first story I have returned the girl to the cell very well they are asking for water give them some he came back last year age 98 and recorded new dial voices for a re-edit of the dials he was one of Jer Anderson's retry voice actors and played Gordon Tracy brains Parker and Carano and Thunderbirds he returned to Who and the gunfighters in city of death played Big Brother in the iconic 80s Mac advert and Granddad in Peppa Peg he had a stroke a couple of years ago and is

40:12 still only semi-retired as a voice actor not a household name but acting royalty anyway I'm going to end this here this is a fantastic story and easily the best horror story six has has since the nowhere place and unlike the nowhere place this doesn't [ __ ] it up it sticks a landing beautifully I don't say this lightly but the worst thing about this story is the cover it's a d Grim horrifying dark story the cover is constant gning next to a snot covered tree monster while six vainly tries to dominate the scene with his trousers this was written by Jonathan Morris who created flip and wrote Vortex ice he's usually dependable and clever riter and to me this is his best work and about constant they don't undo death she is

40:57 dead but it's Doctor Who and she's going a really stiff up her lap so she keeps calm and Carries On at this point big finish were generally releasing stories and rough trilogies in the main range the trilogies were not usually connected by a larger story but the stories pretty much happened one after the other and this Trilogy the Behemoth the middle and static is easily one of the strongest they've ever had I strongly recommend them all next is Cryer the VTR and it's probably the weakest of the constants in Fon the trio land on a planet inhabited by the volas were basically the skes from The Dark Crystal on the day their Jud toic Intergalactic first Contact and end up embroiled in all sorts of political Intrigue feuding Royals ancient timer Shenanigans and a revolution it's not bad it's very not

41:44 bad but plot-wise it is generic the actual planet is kind of unique though the land is incredibly mountainous with Peaks that dwarf the largest mountains constants ever seen now we're above the Mist I can see how impressive your planet is mountains like I've never seen they dwarf anything on my own world these are the Lans of sigara and only Aven or Aven related species are running around large predatory birds chocobos for getting around and at a banquet all the birds and lizards you could eat that's a ton of food well the vus didn't scrimp on celebration do they but what are we about to eat

42:29 exactly I think I recognize several types of poultry some kind of vegetable dish that one there looks like a roast lizard yeah it's staring at me birds and lizards eating birds and lizards isn't that like cannibalism or something oh you're a mammal that eats other mammals flip no different and I could murder a [Music] burger oh these vegetabl was a delicious ill dress n pass me that lizard oh well if you must indulge When in Rome the aliens arriving are the ice Warriors in one of their peaceful periods and it's nice to hear from them again Mell Lynch she plays her leader previously played the empress and Empress of Mars same voice different

43:16 character but as you'd probably expect there's more going on with them than appears with a concentration of Galactic Intrigue the battle between tradition and the future alien royalty stuff and the ice War this really feels like a reskin paladin Story one that's being put into a blender with a Dark Crystal you see not only are the VTR the skais but the plot involves incredibly powerful crystals and way Constance has decided to stay in the Tardis rather than go home again at least for now she's trying to adjust to dying and being resurrected as her own not quite human tree clone which I can't really falter for I've been thinking since our experience with the static it's as if I don't know how explain it I feel normal but at the same time I'm also fully aware that this isn't the

44:02 body I was born in I'm not sure I can go home just yet you'd like to stay for a little while longer not forever of course of course just until I feel myself 100% well this may be selfish but I can't say I'm not a little pleased in a way this was solid but unremarkable if it happened in Charlie's or constant's solo stories it would have been in the top half unfortunately flip and constant's run is extremely strong meaning it appears worse than it is I've not been talking about flip much in this video so I thought I'd let you know that while she said less to do compared to constant Lisa Greenwood is still magnificent as flap really sparklingly naturalistic and she gets her chance to shine in the next story scorched Earth another mostly classic it's the closing

44:49 days the second world war and they arrive in a newly liberated French Village in the middle of a well- earned celebration seeing firsthand that the war effort was worth it almost makes constant's stiff upper lip quiver looks like the Cavalry just rolled in oh this is oh this is magnificent Constance please reconsider I really don't think you should be seeing this those are Allied transport something and British uniforms you knew we W well the doctor had mentioned this in a very vague and tight clipped manner that I think was meant to be reassuring I thought I was being reassured but to actually see it to see the end of the war F oh this is remarkable then they notice a local girl who's been tied up and being abused by a crowd for collaboration she fell over

45:35 with the German who later died on the Eastern front flip is a guest and wants to help and Constance is mostly unsympathetic please don't please you can't just do that Philip I knew this is hard to watch but please take a hold of yourself I can't can't believe you're saying this we we have to do [Applause] something put yourself in their shoes France has been through so much humiliation so much pain and this woman will they say she betrayed them to the Nazis to the Nazis Philip I may not agree with the method of their justice but it is still

46:21 Justice you really believe that I do the disconnect here last the whole story and almost destroys the relationship this is one of the great things that you can do with a historical and a modern companion two good people with widely different context coming to a very strong disagreement the other great Duo for this is Perry and araman with five unfortunately where they tend to stick the landing and avoid coming down in the modern being best this one pretty quickly concludes that Constance is ultimately wrong and as a result the story is a little less nuanced and a little more simplistic it takes aside that strangers with no connection to the war no better than the people he suffered at and even constant who has more of an idea than flip changes her mind you made me feel like I didn't know you and I thought I did I really hoped I

47:10 did cuz I liked what I knew oh Philip you do know me yeah I'm Not Angry Anymore I'm not but what I'd hate what I'd hate most of all is to think that you and I I forgive you Connie thank you philipper this is one of the things that's stopping scorched Earth from being an all-time Class Act don't get me wrong I feel flip was ultimately in the right I just think the story should have left the rightness and wrongness for the listener to decide rather than telling us that we're better than French villagers who spent years suffering and dying and are pissed off about ad ano flip tried to rescue the girl and his face down by an angry mob and the doctor makes her stand down hey hey stay back all of you stay back today

47:58 is a day for FS do not obstruct that please stop this girl is my friend she doesn't know what she's saying Connie I suspect she knows exactly what she's saying with the mouth of a traitor oh so I'm a traitor now I only just got [Music] him now I am here to be a little out of the I miss doctor I think there may have been a little Mis understanding here misunderstanding if you allow us we'll be on our way doctor you can't seriously be saying that we should let them do this flip give me the scissors doctor I know exactly what you because I feel it too in both Hearts believe me

48:46 but I need you to give her the scissors right now Colin Baker said he had issues with that scene but Justified it by deciding that if six had been alone he'd have done all he could to save the girl but he had to protect flip foremost if he was on his own I think he might have done had he not had them to protect I think he would have stood in front of her and said cut mine first but this is not a pure historical though honestly it might have been better if it was a member of the resistance has kind of bonded with an alien made a fire that feeds on hate and has been directing at collaborators proven or not I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards event he aims at the doctor fli and constants and six has the genius plan to convince it to go to Berlin

49:32 doctor are you sure about thiso then I'll be quiet and dear furio all you need to do is follow that Convoy now go and be led to Berlin the war is still going on and he Figures it's far enough away that there'll be time to catch up and stop it before it arrives so the second half of the story is a bit of a wacky Racers type Chase with the doctorine flipping a plane and constant in a car with some Nat PWS if less dad the first half of the story is heavily dramatic very real world kind of intense the second half is kind of silly at times it's like it's trying to be a comedy so have you got a way out oh you think they have an escape tunnel well do

50:18 you of course it's just over here we were just waiting for you to arrive so we could use it oh good we've joined forces with sarcastic Nazis doctor what have you done Constance wait everything you said about forgiveness about peace you've sent that fireable to a city of men women and children you've signed their death sentences doctor hundreds of thousands of them just to save our skins doctor what have you done now Constance let me explain actually hold on to that thought there's one very important thing I must do first what you're in the middle of telling me off keys are under the seat excellent and who's going to fly her

51:06 you no seriously you don't get me wrong it's good especially when the doctor works out what to do with a fire monster I've had a chance to Rack my brain since we last spoke and I've realized that I can do better than Berlin there is one place in the universe that is absolutely 100% perfect for you tell me have you ever heard of Scaro oh you love it but it feels a little disjointed andway this story is at its best when dealing with the conflict between flip and constant between Flip's naive heroism and privilege of never suffering in a war J deposed with constant's nuance and

51:51 firsthand knowledge that war is a field of gray apart from the narrative taking sides on this I was disappointed that it's all dealt with by the end it could have been an ongoing issue for them but nah the reset button was had and their last Main Range Adventure was a Lovecraft Invasion it was recorded not long before the initial Co lockdowns at least a Greenwood being hit hard with long kovat basically a malicious alien that brings imagination to life has taken up residence in HP lovecraft's brain and intends to destroy the world hilariously this is a concept that Russell the Davies came up with for new who I would have starred JK Rowling as herself the episode didn't happen because David Tenant told it was a dumb idea a good call in the scale of whoever it was that stopped Patrick trouton from

52:36 playing two in blackace andway all this means that the team needs to split up the doctor and flip enter lovecraft's mind while Constance and the all new character and kindest sort and nearly companion Calypso Jones deal with stuff in the real world imitating some light flirting which mostly goes for constance's head you're doing admirably Miss Jones likewise but it's just Jones Okay Jones of course still getting used to all that I'm doing so admirably Mrs C about that if I can learn to call you Jones surely you can learn to call me Mrs Clark sure sorry this is a story with its heart in the right place but it doesn't handle its subject matter to well the story doesn't shy away from the

53:23 reality of lovecraft's well documented bigot tree but it does it in the worst way by having other characters talk about it without Lovecraft doing much it's telling not showing Howard Phillips Lovecraft an American author of weird fiction and quite frankly not one I ever wanted to meet on top of which he was a racist and an all round xenophobe and his prejudices infused his work so like I said this is bad oh I can't wait to meet him I never knew about Lovecraft being racist though if I had I don't know that's why the sonax picked him isn't it oh because of his racism yes I'm sure it made him all the more attractive to it for a weaponized mine

54:11 parasite passing through early 20th century Earth he's an absolute gold mine and here we are inside his bonds yes indeed make no mistake this is hostile territory and honestly kind of like a very special episode about racism now Lovecraft does say one or two things for instance he calls someone a mongrel Madness oh come on get away from me you Mongrel spawn but it's done after being harassed and terrified and verbally abused by the heroes it's bad [ __ ] yes it's bad but it's also far less bad than you see on Twitter every day or in Old films or in books from the time in short it doesn't show that Lovecraft is as bad as they say which means a Lovecraft doesn't come

54:57 across as extremely racist for his time which he was instead he comes across as basically a normal person from then maybe slightly better mix that with the main characters insulting him and talking about his bigotry over and over and over again and it comes across about like bullying this random author it's a difficult subject you don't want racism in the story but at the same time you need it for context cuz if you don't know Lovecraft Your Heroes just look like decks maybe there's no good way to handle this story I don't know and to make this even worse this story has said in the last months of lovecraft's life when he decried a number of his earlier views and was trying to be a better man if you know enough about Lovecraft to know exactly how racist he was then you probably know how his views were

55:42 improving the last years of his life they chose the worst possible time to set this story to depict him like this and then right at the end they had the doctor say this you know Mr Lovecraft you could so easily have been better than you are it's a blind hateful cruel and cowardly arrogance it is the rankest of stupidities and the truth of it is the people who hold such views make themselves the worst of humanity they are always the real monsters I repeat Lovecraft had already changed and improved at this point we don't exactly know by how much but it's clear from his

56:28 letters that he had and need a lot of anger for his younger self if they did this with young Lovecraft they'd feel so much better about it or Lovecraft in New York when his racism was in many ways at its strongest but they chose to sit it when he was dying a better man then they denied that he could be that better man you know Mr Lovecraft you could so easily have been better than you are don't get me wrong doubt L when he died he was still a racist by our standards and probably his own too but he had changed for the better even if it was just a small way and this is not a fair portrayal and let's not forget that six was partying with literal slave owners in the Behemoth Mrs M Min Theodosia please

57:16 Theodosia might I have the honor oh sir you may indeed you can't look you'll never get away with it except that good grief is rather good I don't think he actually knows what he's doing and he was already friends with Winston Churchill at this point who supported gassing lesser races and tribes but Lovecraft get special scorn do not insult me by suggesting we are alike in any way maybe lovecraft's biggest crime was not being racist and bradish I'm obset ing over this because my history buff and this is the most literary who story ever come across it's

58:02 practically a love lit to Lovecraft much in the same way The Adventures of Mark Twain was to Twain but instead of presenting him warts and all it also misrepresents the man by telling us that he's even worse than he was you know Mr Lovecraft you could so easily have been better than you are and that is unfair and it's really sad because writer Rob Valentine did his research the story depicts his Terror at doctors which might have killed him that he called his fatal gut pain the grip and he didn't finalize his divorce from his wife because he probably still had feelings for her my dearest Sonia my darling if you will still permit me that

58:49 expression the truth is oh some things a gentleman shouldn't commit to paper old man side note but I need to talk about this story in my Mel and heie video because the Purity Arc is God awful and this story somehow makes it even worse and if I forget to go into it there please remind me to do a separate video because I will be ranting anyway the stuff in lovecraft's imagination includes references to easily over a dozen stories from settings to characters to monsters to more it even goes back to his letters and uses his pronunciation of cthulu they knew my name not just yours hoe they were chanting to cthulu back there ah clu

59:34 clue Mr lacraft sorry that is the uh correct pronunciation right it's like it's trying to be the final word in separating the art from the artist by celebrating the [ __ ] out of the art while laying as much scorn as possible on the artist but there is a reason for this from what I've read the story was in post- production when the George Floyd protest began and B fish realized that doing a story about a famous bigot wasn't maybe a great idea so rather than drop the story or delay it they added extra sections attacking lovecraft's racism doctor given what he was how come people are still reading Lovecraft in my time it's a good question flip if someone does choose to read his work they must do so with the knowledge it was written by a racist which is why I

1:00:21 don't bother me neither now although if you're in the habit of consuming art is a problem you will hit sooner or later and when you do you can't ignore it in lovecraft's case you couldn't if you tried as well as his racism being well known about is frequently there in the text oh nice it makes me feel sick same here it's hard is in the right place what with it being straightly anti-racist but the end result is kind of flawed any way I loved Calypso Jones they 51st Century Bounty Hunter a bit like Captain Jack new Who series w look from what you guys have told me I get the impression you travel around the universe doing good and generally having Adventures right well we sort of after fashion okay and would it be fair to say this is a not for-profit Enterprise

1:01:07 you've got going well we don't exactly invoice Calypso saving the universe tends to be its own reward good cuz the bounty on this thing's pretty significant and well like I really hate sharing oh you needn't worry on that score once we've dealt with it any Financial renumeration for doing so is yours thanks Doc I knew you were a good one now if we're quite done negotiating the fiscal Arrangements the inevitable oh just a figure of speech my head feels peculiar what happened to me that will be the sonax hunkering down in his posterior parietal cortex oh Lord that's just how farther went I really don't think it is mate there is one thing before we leave Ms Jones yeah what's that if we're to

1:01:53 get by unchallenged we can't have you running about town again in your future clothes I strongly suggest you borrow one of my Aunt Annie's dresses oh do you as a matter of fact I [Music] insist I told you to take some of my aunt's clothes M Jones none of her togs fit it'll do for now Mr Lovecraft that suit was my Sunday Best it still is string bean it still is now let's go find that breach we'll have to get past that guard but how he doesn't look very friendly does he don't worry leave this to me pH looks like we made it inside just

1:02:38 in time I'm sorry we're close to visitors good because I'm Dr Jones from danvas State Lunatic Asylum this is Nurse ratchet and this is our patient Hannibal Lector we'd like to sign in and take a look around if that's all right with you uh certainly doctor the sign here M thank you come along sister this way Hannibal what was that a cerebral manipulator aband in most sectors but I never got round to handing mine in they're pansexual mixed race gender fluid trans and part alien they were created to be everything Lovecraft was scared of and the lamp shaded in some of the most gloriously unsettled dialogue possible I feel faint quit swooning

1:03:26 my point is I know you I know what you are so let me tell you something about me I'm a mixrace pansexual trans non-binary person from a future that's coming whether you like it or not and on top of that I'm not even entirely human dear Lord that's right I'm everything that scares you in one stylish package and I don't have time to deal with you I love that bet I love it for its audacity it's over the topness it's complete lack of sense and for the fact fact that it assumes a Lovecraft would have any idea what most those terms mean it's just gloriously hilariously terrible Calypso is basically a hand solo type cross to the River Song type and exptly struts a line between amazing and irritating as [ __ ] I love them in constant's double

1:04:13 act we don't know how constant's story ends yet but if I get my way she'll end up in the far future with Calypso oh fun fact Calypso's voice actor is Robin hold away from sex education and I recently discovered they review binders on YouTube I'm shocked by how comfortable this binder is given the high level of compression the pressure feels evenly distributed and I can breathe easily I could almost forget I was wearing a binder it feels more like a sports bra I like the cut of this binder the arm holes are wide enough for a full range of motion but I don't have any side spillage anyway the stuff inside lovecraft's mind is mostly very well realized like I said it's practically a love letter to his work the doctorine flip me his characters get menaced by his monsters and have many conversations but separating the art from the artist they even team up with Randolph Carter

1:04:58 who gets to meet Lovecraft and he's a a novelist same as you incredible you okay Mr Carter that's quite all right my dear just not every day you find out God's a Yankee and we get some fantastic lines from Randolph as he grapples with the sudden knowledge that he's fictional and that his creator wasn't even successful the so-called mad Arab hinted that the Universe was merely a dream of a blind idiot God called aatho and that if he ever awoke it would all vanish who would have thought that all this time aatho was an author in New England anyway this is also the story where I realized that flip seems to know

1:05:45 something connected to most stories she does but always through a family member or a friend of a friend or something random like in the curse of Davos when she knew the basics of Napoleon's defeat because she liked what do you know of watero the battle of watero yes um well I know that at watero Napoleon did surrender and who told you that may ask Abba in this case she knows Lovecraft because she used to play a Lovecraft based RPG with her cousin when she was a kid if you're listening to flip stories keep an ear out for this I think it's a great subtle running joke that flip knows a lot but it's never through actual learning I can't say I've read all his stories exactly but my be cousin Darren the gamer yeah he used to let me

1:06:31 join in on his cthulu game nights but then one time he caught me reading the end of the game book and he Banned Me from playing after that I did watch a lot good Lovecraft was voiced by Alan Marriot who honestly kind of sounds like he's doing a Jeffrey com's impersonation at least I haven't gone mad as my as my parents did unless that's what I'm doing right now once upon a time we lived in this grand house but they both spent their final days incarcerated in Butler Hospital apart from his work on reanimator coms has played Lovecraft as an action hero in an animated Kids film and even on Scooby-Doo P's who a lot of people think of when they think of actors and

1:07:16 Lovecraft but listening to him in the making of it's mostly just Mar's actual voice I wasn't as as familiar as uh some people in the cast were with lovecraft's world but you really can't be an Avid Reader or not and it is a close match for how lovecraft's voice was described soft nasy highp pitched with a New England accent which means that while he's no Combs he's probably closer than Combs ever got even though occasionally sounds kind of Southern I swear to you it's all true oh really tell it to the men and the white coats and how do I remove this confounded contraption my feelings on the Lovecraft Invasion are very conflicted on the one hand it is a celebration of an author on the

1:08:02 other hand it is kind of a well-meaning hit job on the author like the clip so monologue it is both terrible and great anyway like I said earlier after recording the Lovecraft Invasion Lisa Greenwood came down hard with coov and developed long Kad she's recently returned to the role of flip in six's 40th aniversary special the Quin dma though after fouryear absence hopefully we'll be seeing more of her in the near future in continuity the last we heard of her was the end of the beginning which had to be hastily Rewritten after she fell ill to replace flip with CPO Jones who instantly continued flirting with Constance Mrs Clark hello Jones you remembered as a matter of fact I've been thinking about you too I what what but I'll be talking about that story in a video for Crossovers and the like

1:08:49 flipper herself was recovering in hospital after being stung by a space bog shortly after the release of the Lovecraft invasion the end of the main range and now box sets of multiple shorter Adventures are released instead I much prefer the main range is longer story approach but hopefully this makes things a little less daunting for new fans anyway it's kind of hard to choose the best and worst for the constant and flipp ER because they're generally so good there were seven Adventures three are top tier and mostly excellent the Behemoth the middle and static those static was the best two are part great and really flawed scorched Earth and Lovecraft Invasion and Quicksilver and cry the vtrc are really really good so with the caveat the best and worst really shouldn't apply here I'm giving static the top spot and cry of the voltr

1:09:35 last place because it's on original overall this is one of the strongest heres in who history and it's a perfect spot to start [Music] listening taking and words dream [Music]