THE GINGER ALE AINT GOT NO GINGER IN IT

0:02 Spectre Vision Radio. >> So, it's not that Essu and Crossbow Spirits are there to be tricksters and play jokes on us. It's more so to show that life is confusing and we still have options and choices. What will we do with those? Welcome, welcome welcome. What's up y'all? Welcome to a little juju podcast [music] and I'm your host Juju Ba. I am author of the book The Book of [music] Juju. Of course, I hope by now you should have the book of Now, if you watching this show and you ain't got the book of Juju. I don't know what's going on with y'all. Go to your local library, request it. You should have the book of Juju. Um, I'm also an a priest or

0:50 of course your favorite big cousin conjurer. Welcome back, y'all. This has been such a beautiful season. We are in the process of wrapping up. We only have two more episodes after this one, I [music] believe. So, we are we are making our way for the season for the season for the season. Two more episodes. So, this has been such a fun ride. Uh, especially because, you know, I was laughing because a few episodes ago when I kind of went in about black people not claiming African ancestry, talking about there's no slavery. How in what world do you think it's okay to deny that slavery happened? So now the denial of slavery mean like

1:38 the the the the fights that our people have gone through, the things that our ancestors have experienced, y'all are going to sit there and say that that wasn't true. When I tell you that woke the city up, I don't know. I mean, I knew that it would maybe grind some gears but like people are still arguing. Like I still wake up and be like 47 comments, a hundred comments. Like people have been going in on those posts and really I'm not in my rage bay era. Maybe I am in my rage bay era but I was so I've been so tickled actually. I even though people have been dragging me calling me everything but a child of God saying I'm baldheaded child. Somebody said I think I'm a Barbie cuz my hair is blonde child. I shouldn't talk about

2:25 Africa cuz I want to be white. Like I've been getting so many things especially if I have the wig child. They the the whole times be trying to tear me up, eat me up, and I'm just so fascinated by it all. I truly am an anthropologist. I'm just like, wow, what does this mean for like the stake of the negro like in the the year of 2026? Like, I'm so interested in that. But I'm saying all that to say, even though people have been calling me a baldheaded hoe, the way my comment section has actually been really positive lately, even more positive. Like a lot of y'all, my listeners have been in there like standing up for truth, for research, for knowledge for connection, for pan-Africanism, for the power that we yield as a

3:10 diaspora, when we are united and not when we are separated. That has been wonderful to see. So, I just want to say I appreciate y'all. Y'all y'all y'all regulate. Y'all regulate in the comment. Y'all regulate on Instagram. Y'all reg regulate on threads. y'all be regulating. And for that, I appreciate it because it means that there are people still in this world that are using their brains. And I am so thankful that the people that use their brains are locked into this show. Like, big up yourself for having a brain and using it and standing up for truth and knowledge. And to everybody else, like I really don't care. Keep chatting. Like, I told you I'm in my race era. Um, so there's that. I just want to say I appreciate y'all and I have like the best listeners. Okay, so before I get

3:56 into my segment, I also have an event coming up called Collective Conjure that's happening at Rep Club on February 21st. Yes, I will be in LA. So, if you are in LA or if you're in a surrounding area, come to Rep Club on February 21st. I will be doing it's giving salon. Thanksgiving, you know, really embodying the words of of black women and black gender expansive people, reading quotes and essays from our favorite writers, our favorite thinkers, and also pulling from our own text. So, I'll be there with Duca Wiseman. Um, Duca Wiseman is the author of Dear Cycle Breaker, and I'll be there with Gabrielle Felder, who is the author of

4:42 The Five Blessings of Epha. So, we're all going to be talking about conjuration and healing and calling on the wisdom of the ancestors. So, if you're into that, come on over to Rep Club. Of course, all of that information will be in the show notes and hopefully it's not sold out by the time y'all [laughter] see this. Okay, so our first segment today is Oun's internet. You already know this is the segment where I talk about what I see online. What are we discussing on the orisha of technologies interwebs? What are we talking about on internet? So on today's ogle internet um I saw this really interesting post on Tik Tok that was about

5:28 and I've actually had some people on Tik Tok specifically say can you talk more about the orisha? I don't know the arisha. Everybody loves the arisha. Everybody wants to talk about the arishia. I think the arishia are fascinating. That's a lot of people's entry point when they think about African religion. it. It's through the Yorba tradition. So, I'm like, "Okay, I'll talk about the Arishia." But I saw this on TikTok and the woman who said this, she's from a podcast. The page is called like HBP podcast. I'm not even sure what that stands for. I think these are like in it like they're UK girlies. They had the accents, but one of them was talking about Essu. I don't think it's a spiritual podcast, but I think she may be Yorba. So, maybe that's why she was talking about it. Now if for those who don't know is a deity of the crossroads. So crossroads deities come

6:14 up in a lot of different African Africana dasborn spiritual traditions whether it's the crossroads man and hudoo or papa legba in voodoo uh oru or allegua in the ea santia lumi practice. A lot of traditions have a crossroad spirit. So when we think about a crossroads it's an intersection. And so we can go left, we can go right, we can go up and north and south, you know, east and west. And we're making a choice. We we go the way that we need to go to get to our destination. Very similar to crossroad spirits and energy. That is about the intersections that we come to in our own life. How we make choices. What decisions do we want to make? What are the consequences of those

6:59 decisions? How will we live with those decisions? Are we prepared to adjust and deal with the choices that we make and many crossroads spirits remind us of not only the importance of choice in a sense that like what way are we going to go? Is it right or wrong? but reminding us that we have choice like we have I don't want to necessarily say free will but we have decisions that we get to make and decide and so crossroad spirit often walk with us as we're deciding and going down the roads of our own choices and allowing us to you know pros and cons our choices so this deity specifically is why I love this video is because uh this woman is talking about

7:45 the importance of also how has been relegated to a devil. So I do want to play that clip here. >> So in Euroba language the word that's generally used for the devil is >> ishu. >> What basically happened is that in Euroba spirituality in fact we don't believe in the devil or hell. There's one god and there's different orisha that act as messengers because the one god is too magnificent for us to access directly. That's why we have shongo ash blah blah blah. Then Ishu is the trickster Orisha. So he is the messenger but he also plays tricks on people and also delivers punishment if you've done something wrong. So the dilemma came when it was trans when it was time to translate the Bible >> because they were like >> we don't have a word in Euroba language

8:32 for devil or for Satan. So what are we going to use? They chose the Arisha that is a trickster >> that is mischievous >> labeled him as the devil. >> Named the devil as ish Ishue. Now, why I think that's particularly interesting. Yeah. Again, this transition, this translation was actually done by a black man, Samuel Aayra. He was one of the first missionaries. He's the one that translated the Bible. Now, what is particularly interesting to me is that when it comes to the name Jesus, they didn't give it the name of the creator Orisha, which is Obatala. Created human beings, molded people. Didn't change Jesus to Abatala. They kept Jesus as Ju. But they consciously changed the devil to the name of a yurba orisha. instead of saying like Satan which you'll hear sometimes but that's not the official name or Dee something like that.

9:19 >> It's a conscious >> deeper you know >> bro it's deeper but nobody knows because nobody reads and not only does nobody read people are so scared of themselves like nobody wants to tap in. So, I really appreciated this this this creator sharing this because it talks about how deep, you know, colonialism is and how the word devil in Europe culture is being associated with a deity that actually is meant to send our prayers up to the creator, up to God. How has that entity that orisha why was that translation made to then be the term for Satan and that understanding of as the devil?

10:04 We we and and then yeah as Satan has expanded beyond Eurora culture. It it it even has happened within Hudoo. Uh the lore about Robert Johnson who was it was a nod to him a bit in Sinners. But Robert Johnson is a blues uh player, a blues uh guitar player. And it the story is that he sold his soul to the devil in order to learn how to play the blues. Um and so he had to make a lot of sacrifices, but he sold his soul and that's how he learned. They say he the devil taught him how to play and which that's why he was sort of like an overnight quote unquote success and you know again selling his soul to the devil but they said he went to the crossroads to do so. So again we have this like crossroads energy what's happening at

10:50 the crossroads the crossroads being demonic. It's it's so strange. And also want to add, even though Robert Johnson is the one who gets that story told about him, it's actually Tommy Johnson. Like the lore grew around Robert Johnson, but the the actual person who said that they did this was Tommy Johnson. They actually have no relation, but somehow the story got latched on to Robert Johnson. And so now that's the lore about Robert Johnson. But happened to Tommy Johnson, who is also a blues player as well. So, uh, what I also want to add though is this this piece about her labeling SU as a trickster. And I think that we have to be I well I won't say careful but I think when we when we say trickster that means that there's a there's a uh

11:36 an attachment to like being manipulative or that he's trying to confuse us or that he's trying to cause us harm or that he's trying to, you know, wreak havoc. And we do have to be careful with that because Essu was not there to cause havoc. I don't really think any crossroads well I can't say any I don't know every single crossroads spirit but I don't think that Essu is there to wreak havoc. And this person on the under the Tik Tok says something that I really want to uplift this their name is Luan. This person said is not necessarily a trickster but a divine messenger. The term trickster makes him sound like his role and purpose is mischief but that's not true. His core purpose is to help expand your consciousness to help teach

12:23 you certain lessons. This can include creating illusions, but it's for the purpose of inner growth, a moral pedigogy of sorts. This is because ethics and good character along with community and conservation are central to Epha. So while can employ trickery, it is not to deceive a person per se, but to expose blind spots and bring humility and thus that is how your mind expands. So as an arisha as she was associated with communication carriaging carrying messages between humanity and the divine and the place where choices are made unpredictably bringing reality to plans and enforcement of order. So it's not that and crossroad spirits are there to be tricksters and play jokes on

13:08 us. It's more so to show so that life is confusing and we still have options and choices. What will we do with those? That is where SU sits in our own lives. And so I'm just encouraging y'all to consider how you identify with crossroads energy, the spirit of the crossroads, crossroads spirits, su papa, whoever it may be, the crossroads man. How are you with decision- making? Are you overwhelmed? Do you get flustered when you have to make a choice? Are you okay with accepting consequences of your choice? Are you often not thinking doing the deeper meaning and just always going with what seems easiest or what seems the cutest

13:55 or what you think people will like about you more? That's actually what Sue is bringing forth the expansiveness of the human conscious. And so what what do we like? So now what? That's that's the energy of SU. So if you feel like I like I'm not good with decision-m you may need to do some crossroads work. You may need to go to the crossroads. You may need to leave an offering there. You may need to every time you go past a crossroads be like, "Hey, SU. Hey, crossroads man. Help me with my choices. Help me to see the full scope of the picture." Okay, so I hope y'all enjoyed that. Shout out to SU. I love SU. When I tell you that's an orisha, we locked in. Love you real bad. So yeah, let me know what y'all feel about the whole trickster thing and I also

14:42 being relegated to the devil, which I didn't say before I closed this segment. I don't know if y'all heard the creator say this. It was a Yorba man that did the translation of the Bible. He was a missionary. Um, of course, he was colonized as well. His name was changed. His name was uh he was the first African Anglican bishop. His name was Samuel Aay Crowder. And he he is the one who said, "Well, okay, we don't have a word in Europe before the devil." Because again, the devil does not exist in many black African indigenous religions. Devil doesn't exist. So when they have Christianity being forced upon them, they have to come up with a name because that doesn't exist. So they use a name of one of their indigenous spirits to

15:27 then be the devil, which thus creates this whole thing around if being evil. So it's really, really deep. No, it's really really deep. Um, but let me know what y'all think about that in the comments. All right, y'all. So, our next segment today is black business. And no, I'm not going to teach y'all how to set up vending machines in the mall. Even though I lowkey want a vending machine because the girls are making money from the vending machines. I'm like, do I need a vending machine? Do I need to put some sage bundles in event? Just kidding. Uh, no. This is the segment where I talk about what is going on in black people's business across the diaspora because as we know, what happens there happens here. What happens here happens there.

16:12 So, we need to know what's going on around the world with our black kin. [snorts] Now, today in black business, we're not going that far. We're actually just going out back. Come inside. Come through the kitchen. We go right. We going go right back outside. We're staying right here for black business today because we need to talk about the ice cubes. And I'm actually not even wanting to talk about the ice cubes. You know what I'm talking about, right? The kidnappers that that's happening right now. I need to talk about our response to them. We are in this wave right now. I've seen so many videos, so many Tik Toks, so many tweets, so many posts about this ain't our fight, y'all. I'm

16:59 not dealing with this ain't this ain't my fight. This ain't our fight. We told y'all this ain't our fight. They stay looking for us in them protest. >> Yes, sir. >> They want to know why we're so quiet. Yes, sir. [music] >> Why we're not saying anything. Y'all stay wanting us to get out of the way, trying to move us out the way, but then when some go down, y'all want us involved. I am so proud of you guys for laying low, minding your business, and saying this is not our fight. >> And I mean, I'm friends with people who are saying this to me. I have family members who have told this to me. Like, I'm I'm consistently hearing this situation that's happening right now in the US is not a responsibility of interest. This is not has nothing to do

17:47 with black people. And to an extent, I get what y'all trying to say because we've always been on the front lines revoling, standing up, challenging, rebelling, whether it's from uh revolt, Nat Turner's slave revolt to 2020 or to 2015 Freddy Gray in in Baltimore. There's always been ways that we have put our bodies on the lines to fight back. So, I understand when it seemingly, key word, seemingly feel like the pressure ain't on you. You're like, "Look, I've been fighting. It's time for somebody else to fight. It's time for somebody else to step up." We tried to tell y'all we like I get it to that

18:34 extent. However, also in karma to say that this has nothing to do with black people is it's a lot of things, but mostly it's untrue. This situation has everything to do with black people. And I'm going to tell you why. one. Now, I know it's it seems to be cute to be xenophobic these days, but I know that some of this is just with black Americans being like, "Well, I'm American, so I ain't got nothing to do with this. I I'm legal. I'm a citizen." Okay. Well, I just want to just want to let you know about Warren King, the 19-year-old who on October 14th um was

19:20 tackled, handcuffed, and detained by agents outside of a Walgreens in Chicago's East Side neighborhood. Um he is a citizen. I also want to talk about an unnamed black man who experienced a late night raid on September 29th, 2025. He was kidnapped. Uh he was an elder, by the way. They forced their way into his home. zip tied his hand and loaded him into a truck with 10 other people despite telling agents he was a citizen. He had identification in his backpack and he was held for over 8 hours before being released. So, there was also this man in East Garfield Park who was a citizen October 1st this happened. There was a car crash and it came out the agents got out, they choked the man and he was temporarily detained before being

20:05 released at the scene. Okay, not that this really even matters, but this is just to make my point. This is happening to Americans. Again, to be clear, this shouldn't be happening to anybody. I'm not a student, but for the for y'all, I'm talking about Americans. I'm talking about people who have passports and were born here have papers, not people with green cards, not people with here illegally, as y'all like to say. These are people who have every right to to the American Constitution and they're also being detained. How is this not our issue? Every issue is a black issue because if if it's happening if it's happening there, why

20:51 you think it would happen here? It is happening here. Point two of this is to not say that this is a black issue. Y'all are thinking that this is just about Latinx people. As if there's not black Latinx people, as if there's not Haitians. As if there's not Caribbean. Like, there are black people in the US who are documented and undocumented that are being impacted by this. You thinking that this system is trying to really qualify and classify who's who and why, and you black black people thinking that we will somehow be released from this is ridiculous. Since when have we ever been

21:37 released from anything? And if you think this is just an issue of brown people, you haven't watched TV or seen a post or read. I'm not saying that we all have to get on the front lines and protest. I I I I'm pro I have protest fatigue. That's not to say I'll never protest again. That's not to say I don't stand up, but I haven't been to a protest yet. I I I've protested so much. Oh, I was an organizer. But there are other ways that I show up in this moment. And the main one I always say is education. You have to know what's going on. And you cannot think, well, this ain't about me. I We don't have the privilege to say

22:25 this isn't about me. I am so sorry. And the thing is, you know that nobody's saying you got to do things. We're not all protesters. We're not all revolutionaries. We're not. That's okay. But to say this don't got nothing to do with you, child. We just can't become too naive and we can't be too apathetic. Before I close the segment, I want to uplift something that has love said who is an amazing anthropologist, cultural

23:11 worker hudoo uh in in Maryland, Chesapeake or Chesapeake Condra Society. And I don't exactly know what has said because I didn't screenshot it and honestly it wasn't posted to be publicly shared but it ate. So I'm like going to respect maybe that has didn't want it to be publicly shared like that. But basically the point of the post was or the story was that there will be in black women specifically there will be a time in history maybe 20 years 30 years where historians will research this moment and talk about how feminist language of black women has been bastardized and used to create apathy in

24:01 in society specifically in this moment of being labeled as being the mules of the world, you know, in these terms of black women having to carry so much and black women being the mules. We've we've kind of twisted that to then mean so now that means we don't need to act or do anything. And I actually reject that. I don't think that this means that black women need to carry every social issue on their back. And that doesn't mean that we as black women now don't have to do anything because we've been muled. We still have responsibility. Even if we have been relegated to overdo, overwork, over everything,

24:48 we have to find the balance or maybe even harmony between our work and all of the other things that we do and the level of responsibilities that we carry. Like this is not black women's responsibility only, but it is black women's responsibility. And we don't get to avoid that because we think, well, this is about brown, Latino people. This is about all of us. Like I said, there is no world where something is happening to your neighbor and it's not happening to you or it's not about to happen to you next week. But it's not even next week for us cuz I just gave y'all examples about how it's happening to all of us. This is not about citizenship. It's not about none of that. This is about people doing what they want to do. So, what are you going to do?

25:36 I know you're not going to keep using that black woman a mule to then say that this ain't your fight. And if y'all disagree with me, I don't care cuz I'm right. I'm actually right about this. No shade y'all. I'm very right about this. like we can't do that cuz we going to be looking shook when it's one of us and actually it has been one of us and a lot of people are talking about I wish I remember the brother's name right now cuz we know uh Renee and we know um shoot y'all know the black man who Ice killed I don't remember his name and that's the whole I don't even remember his name literally so I had Just say here, think about his

26:21 name. His name is Keith Porter who was killed on New Year's Eve. We know Renee Good, Alex Prey. So don't lose sight of what's actually happening. Like, take care of yourselves, but we are all responsible for each other. What Gwen Li Brook said, "We are each other's magnitude and bond." I'm off my soap box. Let's take a break. We'll be right back. Welcome back, y'all. So, a Little Gigi podcast is a labor of love, but it is labor nonetheless. The time, energy, money,

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29:30 This is the segment where we talk about health and healing and what are some tips that we can use to help our life, help our lifestyles, to help us feel good about ourselves, to help us feel better. We got a lot of things we got to feel better from. So this is my way and my attempts to to support us in that whether it is a spoonful of cod liver oil or you go to Pilates every day there is always something that exists that is there to support us in our everyday lives. So my car liver oil tip today is a old black remedy child. We've all heard this one. This is a very popular method of healing that our people have used for a long long time. And that is

30:20 ginger ale. People love ginger ale. Ginger ale if your stomach hurt. Ginger ale if your head hurt. Ginger ale. Now I don't even know if ginger ale is even for headaches, but for some reason the the ginger ale is just a recipe for sickness. If you feel bad, have some ginger ale. I know I grew up in a ginger ale house, especially with my mother. If I was sick, I was eating crackers and ginger [laughter] ale. Like, it was always ginger ale. Now, we know that the main key ingredient of ginger ale is ginger and the importance of ginger. So, I want to uh talk a little bit about how ginger ale is so helpful and why. So, it really helps with nausea relief. I know like the sickness that I would experience mostly would be like if my stomach hurt, if I was throwing up,

31:06 stuff like that. That's when we will pull out the ginger ale if you can't keep things down. And that's because ginger is a nausea relief. It encourages stomach emptying and so it really helps aid the discomforts that happen when we are nauseous. It's even helped treat people who are dealing with chemotherapy. And so experts who work with patients who receive chemo for cancer say that ginger can take the edge off of some of their post-treatment nausea. So they use this in the medical setting. It can also help for people with pregnancy. For generations, people often praise uh the power of ginger. Ginger to help with their morning sickness or just the sicknesses that happen when they get pregnant. Ginger also helps with bloating and gas. It can cut down on fermentation and

31:53 constipation and other causes of bloating. Uh wear and tear on cells because it contains antioxidants and it also may be an anti-inflammatory. So ginger has a lot of uses and needs. So it is no wonder that is always like you just need some ginger ale. Now the problem that we have faced the recipes that we are losing. Cue the alarm 911. Y'all the ginger ale ain't got no ginger in it. The ginger ale is gingerless. It's just ale. It's no ginger. It's actually just high fructose ale and we cannot we have to be careful. So right now I just want to uplift a lot of the

32:39 ginger als that I was raised on and talk about how a lot of them are gingerless. It is only ale. The first one serums carbonated water high fructose corn syrup citric acid. We have finally reached ginger extract with other natural flavors. So it's not simply just ginger extract, it's ginger extract and other natural flavors and then all these other potassium sorbates and caramel colors and all these other extra things only but a piece of ginger in the in the serums. Next grew up on Schweps. Schweps, carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, citric acid, sodium benzoate, caramel color, natural flavors.

33:25 Not a p not a slither of a piece of ginger is in Schweps. Okay. So if your mama or you are like my stomach hurt, let me go grab the Schweps, baby. Ain't no ginger in that. Canada Dry, a big popular one. Canada tri was around all the time. Carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, citric acid, sodium benzoate, natural flavors, caramel color. That's it. The ginger is not in the ginger ale. So, the ginger that when I was doing my research, the ginger that is in the ginger ale. Okay, we have reads. We like reads. It's also in a nice glass bottle, not plastic. Sparkling water, cane sugar, and pressed organic ginger. Third

34:12 ingredient, no high fructose, no benzoleate carbonates, sodium proosphates prostates pressed organic ginger. We also have Q Mixers ginger ale. This is BKbased. Y'all call me. Somebody put me on the um influencer list for Q Mixers. They have real ginger in their ginger ale. I like Q Mixers actually. They they make nice little mixes with with a liquor too. And then we have boiling bottling which also contains Oh yes. Boiling bottling. Yes. Yes. Third ingredient carbonated water, cane sugar and ginger. Right. So not the extract and natural not the benzo

34:58 phosphates natural ginger. So boiling reads cube mixers. Keep your eyes out for that. If we want to hold on to the black remedies, we have to make sure that the reasons that our ancestors used it for the ingredients are still present within the remedies. Otherwise, we're just doing the the act of drinking ginger ale more so for nostalgia because the ginger is nostalgic at this point because it's not present. It's a it's a piece of the past. So, drink your ginger ale. If you're not feeling well, you're feeling nauseous, you can't keep something down. Or maybe we get honestly, maybe we just get back to the root. Maybe we just need to chew on some ginger. Maybe we just need to suck on some ginger.

35:45 Maybe we just need to like have the natural root. Maybe we need to press some ginger and put in some warm water, put in our tea. like we can still I I want to keep the ginger ale alive too, but y'all with all the sugar and all this, I don't know if it's doing what it what was it was made to do anyway. Now, if we're doing it for nostalgia, you need to eat it with your crackers. Go ahead. Maybe you switch that with ginger beer, which you also do need to look at the ingredients for ginger beer, too, cuz some of them ingredients are like there's no what is what is in this cuz all ginger beer is not created equal at all. So y'all, let's keep ginger ale alive. Why hasn't a black person came out with like a ginger ale and really marketed around

36:31 this thing yet? Why haven't they like uncle Steviey's ging real ginger ale? Why did that happen? Maybe I need to do TTG's ginger ale. So do I need a ginger? I got the green on today. Like is this my next once the podcast is done? Like I start a bottle of ginger ale. Like I don't know how is no one really marketed that. Now if y'all take that y'all owe me up a percentage. So uh at least just 10 just 10 15 just send me an email cuz I got some ideas around that. Anyway, y'all let me know in the comments. Did you grow up with ginger ale? Do you still drink ginger ale? And how do we feel about the lack of ginger ale? Let me know. We'll be right back y'all until our next and final segment. Okay y'all, our last segment today is

37:18 Dear Juju. This is the segment where you all write into me your questions about love relationship spirituality whatever it is that you want to know and I may read your letter aloud on a little juju podcast. So hit me up at dear jujuju@yahoo.com. So today's dear juju letter reads, I know in Santaia through espiritismo there are misas and you were once in Santaia. Now that you are in traditional E5, do you still attend or conduct misas? If not, what do you do instead? Thank you. It was a simple easy question. Thank you for asking that. So, let me give some context for those who don't know. So, Santia is a branch of the traditional Yorba religion of Epha. And Santia is

38:04 the version that expanded and extended to Cuba. It extended to Puerto Rico. Obviously we think about African people who were transported to those countries and to those places and of course their indigenous religion didn't die. It was just uh transformed. It was uh synchronized with Catholicism and there were new understandings that were birthed out of their traditional Yorba belief system that became Santaria or some people will also say lumi is is another version of this. And so I used to when I first got into a traditional spiritual system I went the Santaria route. So it was a more of a Afro Cuban

38:50 understanding of the oricha as we called them. Um and so in that sect there is there tends to be in Santi and Lumi spaces more of a focus on misas which are essentially spiritualist seances where we work with the dead. It it is really a place to work with the dead and you don't really see that as much in traditional ei spaces. This is more of a lupi thing and it it it is separate from the orisha. I mean there are some blendings but especiismo is its own practice but a lot of people who are in Santia are also espeitis so or have access to misas and espeitismo so when I was I was I was regularly going

39:38 to misas and working with the dead and being possessed and having all that I've talked about it on the show but now that I'm in traditionally I don't really have that connection with my ela however because I was trained as an expy ista. I still do attend Misa. I enjoy Misas. I have had my own Misas since I joined EA and I just don't really blend them. Um I I found my own community and space in New York actually where I can go to Misas and it is with a Luke house and they accept me there and my traditional Ela knows that I do these things but it's just kind of like my own thing. It it's separate. So yes, I do still go to Misas. I still uh work with the dead. I'm still a possessor. I'm still a medium. And so I do have to have a place that I'm able to work that gift and

40:25 train with other mediums. And so yeah, I I still do. Mises, uh, thank you for that question. I appreciate that. You know, I think it a lot of times because there is actually a a big difference between being in traditional Euroba practice and being in one that's more dasporan. When we're thinking about language cha changing, um, the prayers even are shifting. Yes. in lupi you can still practice and pray in yorba but because it's Spanish speaking there's like so many Spanish words that are a part of it like even saying just a or a like the it just different words it's a different vibe it's a different energy even the orisha feel different in lumia sant from mishe so I enjoy it all I think it's all important and necessary and a part of our black spiritual

41:12 histories so I think that they they they work and can work alongside each other. So, thank you so much for that question. All right, y'all. Thank you so much for tuning in to another episode of A Little Juju Podcast. As you all know, if you want to keep up with me, get the podcast updates, see what's going on in my life and my world, follow me at it's Juju Bay iTech almost every social media platform that you can think of. I'm at It's Juju Bay there. Now, if you're looking for the podcast page, you should follow me on Instagram at a little juju podcast to stay updated with all the ALJ things that we got going on. Um, of course, if you want to bring me to your school, you want to reach out to me, want to book a

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