Manah Shodhanam Discourse 1 of 5 - Swami Aparajitananda

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12:25 humble prostrations to one and all present here so from today onwards we are going to take up this text Manan Shana means purification so a text dedicated to the process of purification of mind this text is composed by our Puja guruji Swami tan Puja guruji has taken some verses from shat bhagavatam

13:13 also in order to throw some light upon how to handle certain specific weaknesses of the mind so we have around 25 verses so before we enter into this text we will have to understand why this purification of mind is absolutely essential why this purification is important this has to be understood is purific ation necessary

14:01 only for Spiritual people or it is it necessary for ordinary secular people also worldly people also so now in order to understand the importance of purification we should understand or let us analyze how we suffer through an IM pure mind the best way to understand the importance of purification is to realize how much we suffer when our mind is

14:46 impure so what are the different ways in which an impure mind creates problem for us so Point number one an impure mind is a torturing mind torturing mind means what a person possessing an impure mind can never be happy unhappiness and impurity they go together impurity and agitations they go put

15:33 together many times we have this wrong equation of life that an unconducive environment is the source of our happiness an unconducive external worldly environment is the source of our unhappiness this is the general belief which people have but when we closely analyze the situation we find that there is an environment a worldly environment and between this worldly environment and us there is

16:19 another intermediate medium which can play an important role in deciding our happiness and what is that intermediate medium it is our mind mind interprets the situation and based on this interpretation whether the interpretation has been positive or negative favorable or unfavorable based on this

17:04 interpretation we experience Joy or sorrow so there is a world there is a mind and there is me so will I be happy or unhappy in this present situation that is decided by how how the mind is going to interpret that situation if there is a conducive environment everything is fine but if I have a complaining and a grumbling mind focusing only on aspects which are

17:50 unconducive completely ignoring all those factors which are conducive if there is a complaining and a grumbling mind if there is a fault finding mind then even though I'm in an conducive enironment 90% factors all going in favor of me even in such a situation what will I experience misery not because the external world is miserable but the Translate who is the translator mind this mind translate that environment to be a negative situation

18:37 because of lack of so many things it is finding fault it is not seeing the good things it is seeing only the bad things if I have such a mind as my translator then what will I experience I will experience unhappiness but on the other hand I have an unconducive environment but here is a mind which is seeing only the good things in that environment it is seeing only the Lord's Grace and blessings The Hidden Hand of the Lord how bhagan is beautifully taking care of my various negativities bringing out it to me so

19:23 that I can win over it so even in an unconducive environment if if my mind is trained to see the plus points then what will I experience I will experience happiness even amidst an unconducive environment so a pure mind sees heaven even in Hell an impure mind sees hell even in heaven h so this is the first problem with an impure mind an impure mind is a torturing

20:10 mind wherever you are it will analyze the situation and brings unhappiness for you clear clear Point number two an impure mind is a deluding mind what is delusion something is there it is not seen something is not there that is seen an impure mind is a deluding mind it deludes

20:56 you there is a right path it will wield that path from you there is a wrong path it will show that wrong path as the right path and it will instigate to walk the wrong path very dangerous and that is why our greatest enemy is not an external enemy our greatest enemy is our own mind mind is not only the best friend it can also be the worst enemy if we don't handle our mind

21:47 properly see as far as an external enemy is concerned there is nothing to fear nothing to fear because you can avoid that enemy that enemy is external therefore you can see you can see that enemy you can avoid that enemy you need not listen to that enemy as far as an external enemy is concerned that external enemy has no much influence in my life I have a choice to avoid him but the problem with this mind is it is ever with me and it is

22:32 unseen and it is a part of me and then remaining with me as a part of me disguised as my friend disguised as my instrument it misleads me are you able to see the seriousness remaining with me pretending to be my friend my instrument without coming in front of

23:18 me remaining inside it does all vicious things makes me blind remaining with me it takes control of all the important aspects what is the important aspect the intellect with which I decide it Wheels completely blocking the reality and illusion is created and then this mind tells me to chase that ill illusion it does a and it does

24:07 via it covers a means covering veing and then via IT projects covers the reality projects the illusion and instigates me to chase that illusion and it does all this silently remain with me that is why it is the worst enemy very dangerous and what is our condition we are constantly looking out through our senses but where is this impure mind doing its Mischief remaining inside and there our attention is never

24:55 there all the crimes that are happening wrong things that are happening in the society and in ourselves also all the mistakes that we do in our life it is all because of this impure mind this is point number two what is the first one torturing mind second one deluding mind third one enslaving mind mind an impure mind is an enslaving mind it will make you your slave it will take away all your

25:41 freedom all your Independence you will become a beggar beggar has no choice you are a master but it will degrade you to the status of a beggar you are the master who has all freedom but the moment you possess an impure mind you degrade and become a helpless servant of this monstrous mind so what are the different kinds of slavery I become a slave of my

26:29 mind I become a slave of my senses I become a slave of sense objects I become a slave of the whole world slavery is the result if we blindly follow our impure mind bondage is result what is it bondage I am not able to be free I can't free myself from this cycle of birth and

27:19 death as far as day-to-day experience is concerned I'm not able to be free from worries tensions anxiety I don't want worry but I helplessly worry I don't want tension but I am helplessly tensed I want peace but I'm am not able to gain that peace now this is called as absence of freedom I want something but I'm not able to get it I don't want something but forcefully it is put on me have to go through it so this is called as

28:06 slavery so torturing mind deluding mind enslaving mind and the fourth one alienating mind an impure mind alienate alienate means what separates separates from whom from bhagan himself it Separates Me from my Creator it creates that divide it disconnects me the Lord is the infinite source of bliss happiness peace knowledge strength

28:53 wisdom impure mind disconnects me alienating I am in the lap of the Lord all the time but this impure mind disconnects that bond to such an extent that an impure mind says I don't believe in the existence of God you see is an alienating mind and the last

29:40 one such a mind is a hampering mind it obstructs my progress so torturing mind deluding mind enslaving mind alienating mind hampering mind now just put these words together d e a t h deluding Mind En slaving mind alienating

30:26 mind tor in mind hampering mind equal [Music] to this is what the impure mind does it kills you whether you are spiritual or secular it doesn't matter whoever you are if you don't take care of your mind in fact if you don't kill your impure mind it will kill you choice is yours both cannot survive either you

31:12 have to kill killing the impure mind means what making it pure transforming it either you have to kill him or he will kill you and this killing is not just once every moment it will kill you killing moment to moment Life After Life so therefore what should we do we should kill this impure mind how to kill this impure mind kill the impurities in the mind that is enough that is called as man

31:59 process of purification purify the impure mind okay now in this text what all are the concepts discussed there are so many Concepts which are discussed in this text number one why purification is essential number two what are the impurities of Mind topic number three how does the Mind become impure in

32:45 the first place topic number four what is the proof that these imp purities belong to the mind and not to the self topic number five what are the different traditional techniques to purify the Mind topic number six what is the best way of purifying the mind

33:32 topic number seven what are the different impurities of the Mind very common impurities and what are the specific ways of eliminating them how many topics s seven topic number number eight what is the proof that mind is getting purified topic number nine what should be our attitude while going through this purification

34:22 process and topic number 10 how to inspire ourselves when we get discouraged in the process how many topics enough so what the first one I don't remember the order what is the first one why purify second what are the impurities of the Mind third one how does it become imp are okay fourth what is the proof that these impurities belong to the mind and not to

35:07 the self this question is important because if it belongs to self you can't purify it if it is our nature you can't purify it huh okay next TR traditional technique of purifying the Mind next best of purification H next what are the common impurities and what are the solutions to them ah h ah what is the proof that mind is getting purified uh next atude what should be my attitude while going through self-

35:52 purification uh next myself how to inspire prare myself when the results are not very encouraging okay can you think of any other topic so therefore just in 25 verses most important 10 topics are covered okay right so with this introduction we enter into the text proper so take page number seven first

36:40 verse repeat once [Music] together

37:44 yes what is the first word of this text paramatma auspicious beginning you see so that itself an invocation remembering the Lord so whenever we are going to do anything what is the first thing to be done remember the Lord so it is an auspecious beginning paramatma paramatma who is he that is his nature he is AD Nell he is

38:29 an of the nature of bliss who is he Atma the Supreme self where is he he's there residing in the hearts of all [Music] beings means what it is right there in me how is he residing in me as param Atma what is the translation of Atma self self means what

39:16 I that I is called Atma is there anyone without I not only human beings all beings our world starts with i everything revolves around I for me first I then comes mine mine cannot come without I so the whole world my world whether it is thought world or the material world it is

40:01 revolving around I means what consciously or unconsciously all our worlds are revolving around the Lord alone Lord first then comes everything else even for an aist who may not believe in God his world is also revolving around God alone because his world is also I I first then comes my experience I first then comes my thoughts I first then comes my body I first then comes my family my house my possession my position everything is revolving around

40:49 this I and what is this I in its purest form param Supreme H what is this I in his purest form it is bhagan the Lord so if I have to search for God where should I search in an Atma or Atma my search should always be in Atma in the self if you search Atma in an Atma will you find it you will not if you have to experience God as he is

41:35 he or she or it or whatever people have problem with he and she also if you want to find God let us use a traditional way he that's a traditional because in Bible it is used he okay so when he is he we are all she okay okay leave that topic so therefore if we have to search for him there is no other way we have to go towards the self alone and what is the proof that we are understanding God as he

42:21 is what is the proof he is an so therefore as am nearing him what should increase in me Ananda should increase but when will that Ananda increase so therefore one more term is used ad ad means [Music] nonell very interestingly this is our journey three stages what are the three stages in our journey first is AD I alone exist where is God that is also nonuel I don't believe

43:09 in God I believe in only in me so how many entities that is not okay H the more and more you are away from reality the more and more will be the suffering the more and more you are away from light you are in darkness the more and more you are in darkness you are in sorrow so that is AD then in that sorrow you become more introspective where am I going wrong what is happening to me you try all means to come out of the sorrow finally

43:57 a last resort you come to satsang by then you have messed up your life messed up your lifetimes rather finally because of some Karma you come to satsang then you come to know of the other entity so from ad you go to D two entities I am there and there is a God also is somebody other than me higher than me controlling me you accept another entity so slowly now you are coming out of that

44:42 duk and then in life in this laboratory called life You observe a very strange phenomenon what is that whenever the lower eye surrenders onto the higher eye in that bisso meter there is a flick there are so many meters M meter voltmeter speedometer in the same way there is something called Bliss meter or let us say Bliss meter when the current increases there

45:28 is a flick of that you know that what that needle needle increases when current increases in the volt meter when the voltage increases the needle in the speedometer when the speed increases in the same way in our heart there is one unseen meter what is that meter Bliss meter so find that in the laboratory of the world the world provides so many situations and when I'm handling this situation there are time when I become miserable but then I turn towards God surrender unto him seek his guidance

46:15 give up my ego in those rare moments what happens to this meter there is a flick suddenly the needle fluctuates there is an increase of joy of Peace of contentment so then I find a relationship whenever I a face my ego there is an increase of bliss I'm interested not in ego actually I'm interested only in happiness Bliss peace but every time I

47:00 have tried to boost my ego there is a decrease of bliss in the beginning there is a fluctuation but finally decrease and I find that whenever this ego is eased there is a greater and greater satisfaction joy peace contentment Clarity when again and again I see this I slowly tend to surrender my ego surrender my little eye onto that Capital Eye paramatma and every time I do this there is a bliss so therefore I'm more and more inspired to surrender surrendering the ego means

47:47 what effacing the ego dissolving the ego that is meaning sh surrender and slowly slowly slowly slowly tempted by this Bliss craving for a greater Bliss I start easing the ego more and more and a time comes when the ego is completely effaced now how many entities are there one ad and what is the nature of that ad Anand got it this is

48:33 life a d and then finally again ad from 0° you travel finally you come back to 360° where are you now same place 0° and 360 both are same but there a huge huge difference one has not started the journey other has completed the journey one is empty of wisdom the other is empty of ego both are empty you start with zero wisdom you end

49:20 with zero ego you come back to the same place you started silent became noisy and again became silent you are silent in the beginning because you did not know anything you are silent in the end because there is no need to tell anything so this is our journey okay so where is that bhagan bhagan is right there as my own self as the very eye in

50:07 me do you need a sense organ to know that I no do we need a mind to know that I no I shines by itself it is available for all in full measure you don't have to compete for that a cake is there 10 people are there you will have to compete and then you will get 1 by 10th of that cake anything of the outer world you will have to compete survival of the fittest but as far as this self is there

50:54 everybody can get full measure no competition is needed why and what are we seeking in life an is seeking where is it it is already there but then why is it that people are miserable in this world then if they are carrying infinite Bliss in their own heart why is it that they are miserable the reason is this Bliss

51:41 is they are not able to access it they're not able to see it experience it why is it so so now see I have something but I am not getting it what could be the reason I already have something but I am not able to get it what could be the reason H one reason is I don't know it that I have it I have it but I'm not experiencing because I don't know know that I have it

52:29 so one example given in Atma bodha by bhagan Shankar is ah like the necklace sometimes while working the necklace goes back you know and then this lady sees looks at her and where is the necklace now she's searching it is already there she is carrying it but she is not getting it so what is the obstacle there ignorance so therefore one possible reason is I don't know that I have it and therefore I'm not able to experience it what can be the other example you can

53:15 give ad mahatmas are all sitting here what is the other Example The Waking dream example the dreamer is suffering why is he suffering because he doesn't know that he is the Waker ignorance is the obstacle what can be another famous example [Music] example snake example what is there is only rope but I am going through fear tension anxiety worry why is it so because I don't know that

54:01 it is rope obstacle is ignorance now many times study group members say Swami G I know that I'm Blissful self but still I'm not experiencing how many times you have listened to the talks how how many times you have studied different different texts and I've been there for so many years also Swami but his an has never come so you cannot say it is because I don't know I know

54:46 it I know it still I am not experiencing it so therefore guruji says there is one more aspect which you will have to keep in mind mere knowing will not do something else is also important because obstruction can be from another aspect also the instrument of knowing also has to be taken into

55:31 account what is the instrument of knowing mind some of your star Watchers okay Swami G Saturn is there I look information is there right information has been given but I look where is Saturn I don't see any saturni with this eyes you can't see you need an instrument okay telescope is brought

56:19 with the instrument I watch right knowledge is there instrument is also there but still I'm not seeing not this way you to adjust there are so many settings so then when the instrument is also set then I be able to see isn't it whether it is a telescope or a microscope you want to see a microorganism you can't see it is there you have been given the information also that it is there you see it but you don't see you look at it but you don't see so then there is an instrument in the same way why is it that I have gathered this

57:08 information that this self is infinite Bliss but when I look at myself I don't see any Bliss there so that means there is some other obstruction which is preventing me from knowing myself there is somebody else coming in between which is preventing me from knowing my true self there is somebody who is preventing the little eye from knowing the big eye what is that in between thing so that is that instrument of knowing what is that

57:54 instrument mind so if that instrument is not cooperating with me in knowing my higher self there has to be some problem with that instrument what could be the problem so here that answer is given it is mano Mala Mala means [Music] impurity just like in that telescope there is that outer glass something you put there there some dust or something then you will not see everything is fine there's some dust some impurity in the same way mind has certain impurity and once that mind becomes impure that mind will not be able to do

58:42 justice to its role what is the role of a mind knowing is its role it is a instrument of knowing that knowing will not be perfect for perfect knowing mind has to be a pure mind what will this imperfect mind do imperfect mind is an impure mind impure mind will interfere in the process of knowing so therefore two terms

59:33 both are necessary right information is also necessary and right instrument of knowing also is necessary now comes a question what is the question the question is oh Guru why should Consciousness need a mind to know itself because Consciousness its nature is knowing sat chit chit means knowing in fact mind has only a borrowed property Mind by itself cannot know it

1:00:20 borrows the property to know from Consciousness and it is capable of knowing by itself it has no such ability it is a borrowed property just like a mirror borrows light from sun and appears bright appears to give light light doesn't belong to the mirror it is only a borrowed light in the same way the ability for the mind to know is only a borrowed ability borrowed from whom from the this eye from this Consciousness so therefore now the question is why should I need a mind to know myself why can't I know

1:01:10 myself without the Mind did you understand the question that question is answered next verse page number n verse number two [Music] k

1:01:57 [Music] yes oh Guru actually speaking information alone is what is needed because Consciousness can know itself it doesn't need an instrument of knowing because knowing is a nature of Consciousness it is not a borrowed

1:02:43 [Music] property for the eyes to know itself it doesn't need specs for the mind to know itself it doesn't need eyes in the same way for the Consciousness to know itself it doesn't need any instrument just information is all what is needed just that information

1:03:28 nanam and what happens knowledge will definitely destroy ignorance you just give that knowledge ignorance is destroyed then what will happen it shines by itself you don't need a torch light to see the Sun or to see the fire fire by itself has light something which doesn't have light yes you need an extern etal light but something which is self luminous self knowing self conscious self aw aware why do you need an instrument with the right

1:04:16 knowledge when that ignorance is destroyed with that knowledge it shines by itself you know yourself by yourself you are right even [Music] then there is one problem it appears very logical but there is a problem are you able to understand the problem H because then solution will make no sense first is understanding the problem then coming to the solution what is this problem I mean not

1:05:01 this custom the point is are you understanding the thought flow just Nana is enough actually because Consciousness is self lining just shift your attention and matter is over but then that is not happening there is some other obstacle for the Consciousness to know itself no instrument is needed but then in spite of this knowledge I am not able to know this somewhere else the problem is so logically it is true there is one

1:05:48 problem ohu what is the problem verse number three page number 12 [Music] Y Man

1:06:47 yes so now here we have to understand certain things let us take that example famous example of this pole [Music] B so that person runs with the pole fixes the pole and as the pole straightens up what does he do he climbs the PO and now there is a bar and by the time that pole becomes perpendicular To The Ground by then he has reached the end of the pole and now there is a bar what does he do he drops the pole jumps the bar

1:07:35 without dropping the pole he can't jump the bar he can't go along with the pole he has to drop the pole meaning at that time PO is useless to jump the bar do you need the pole to cross the bar do you need the pole if you see only that aspect you will find that the pole has no no use no meaning no [Music] utility if you see only that aspect because to cross the bar you don't need

1:08:21 the pole you have to just take a leap but to reach up to that level so there are two levels bar level and ground level from the ground level to reach the bar level you need the pole but to cross the bar you don't need the pole have you understood this in the same way Consciousness to know itself you don't need mind but the question is is

1:09:08 consciousness here indrawn or there outward as far as our condition is concerned as an ignorant person is concerned what is the state of consciousness now remember the identification Theory what is identification Theory when entity a identifies with entity B the properties of B appear to be the properties of a fundamentals when I identify with the movie character the Sorrows of the movie character becomes my my sorrow I start

1:09:57 crying sorrow is not mine sorrow is of movie character but his sorrow becomes my sorrow because there is identification that is identification Theory now in our case where is consciousness is it identified with Consciousness or is it identified with the Mind where is the identification with the mind what is the property of our mind now extrovert in impure impure means outward remember any impure mind is outward that's how impure mind is an alienating mind how does it get

1:10:42 disconnected from God God is inside and the impure mind takes us outside that's how the disconnect happens okay so impure mind filled with Radha such an impure mind is turned outward so where is consciousness turned inward or turned outward outward because Consciousness is identified with the Mind mind is extroverted so now Consciousness means paying attention Okay what is the property of Consciousness paying attention means knowing so Consciousness identified with an extroverted mind what is it knowing the outer world or the

1:11:28 inner self outer world so where am I where is my ground level outside so for me remaining in the ground level I will not be able to cross the bar don't use this logic anyway I have to drop the pole why can't I drop the pole now itself so remaining in the ground you drop the pole you will remain where you are the person on the top he says see you don't need the pole just drop it where is

1:12:13 he bar level he is advicing the fellow in the ground level hey police not need drop it he drop he will look like a fool you able to understand what I'm saying which is the ground level the mind in the world we are outward completely busy with the worldly things attention is totally outward Consciousness identified with an extroverted mind is extroverted attention is outward attention is upon the things beings and situations that is the ground level from there if you say alone is

1:13:02 [Music] sufficient no instrument is needed wrong are you able to get the point so then what has to be done po has to be used climb the pole what do you mean climb the pole purify the mind mind we draw the Mind such a pure mind is a silent mind a mind which can see things as it is such a mind is called a pure mind and then drop the

1:13:48 mind this is called climbing the pole after that Once the mind is purified it is silent Consciousness can pay attention to Consciousness no instrument is needed but as long as the instrument of knowing is creating a trouble I will have to remove that instrument are you able to follow now see this verse as as long as the impurities of the mind is not exhausted is not cleaned what are the impurities of Mind

1:14:36 RA in the form of RA rupaka in the form of Raa so wherever remember Raa is therea is also there you can't have only Raa if there is Raa then DHA is also there they are the two sides of the same coin so as long as my mind is filled with Radha such a mind is called impure mind that is called as manala such a mind filled with like dislike is a colored mind a colored mind cannot see the truth what will it see it will see its own color projected upon the

1:15:23 truth colored truth is what is seen by a colored mind which mind alone can see the truth pure mind pure mind will see see truth as it is truth is like a crystal whatever color the mind has it will project upon the crystal by itself has no color to see a colorless truth you need need a colorless mind so at present our condition is mind is filled with Raad and therefore Consciousness identified with such an impure mind is

1:16:08 extroverted means what attention is outside such Consciousness cannot look into itself but as the Mind becomes pure such a pure mind can be silenced a pure mind can become a no mind a pure mind can become a silent mind a silent mind is nothing but a no mind what is silent mind mind free from thoughts is called a silent mind mind is nothing but flow of

1:16:54 thoughts So Silent mind means what mind without thoughts mind without thoughts can you call it a mind so it is actually no mind so when we say that truth can be known cannot be known through the mind what it means is to know the truth mind has to be silent when we say truth can be known only through the mind that is also right Because unless mind is purified without such a purified mind truth cannot be known so what is the cooperation of the Mind in knowing the truth in what way mind has to cooperate

1:17:42 to know the truth in becoming nothing that is the cooperation got it actually it is not through the mind you're knowing mind stepping itself aside is the cooperation of the Mind are you able to follow as far as knowing the world is concerned mind is necessary because it has to form thoughts because only through thoughts you can know the world I'm seeing this book actually what am I seeing there is a thought generated in the mind that thought I'm seeing to know anything of the world thought is necessary but to know Consciousness do you need a

1:18:28 thought no thought is necessary then in what way can the Mind cooperate with us sometimes you have a plan you know a building plan everything is in what way politicians can cooperate B please don't create any trouble that's is your cooperation not creating trouble is a cooperation you don't have to positive do anything just step aside that itself will be a great thing in the same way what is the greatest favor which the mind can do in self-realization stepping aside becoming Silent not troubling us not taking our

1:19:14 attention outward but that can be done only if the mind is pure is the concept clear so at that last moment if the mind is pure you don't need the mind because at that stage Consciousness can know [Music] itself just like at that last stage you don't need the pole you can just jump across the bar at the bar level Poli is not

1:20:00 needed in the same way Once the mind is completely pure and Silent you don't need the mind to know yourself did I confuse you so there is a stage where you have to purify the mind and there is a stage where you have to drop the mind without purifying if you drop the mind in fact you can't drop the Mind many people try to do that that's why they are failing so there is a stage of purification there is a stage of

1:20:48 dropping without purification no dropping is possible but one purification happens then mind is not needed just nanam will do but if mind is not pure then both has to be done what is that man plusi two stages so what is being said here [Music]

1:21:35 now here is also there is a gradation that's what Guru is trying to say in fact as long as mind is not pure even the desire for self-realization will not come that's what he said means what this purification is all also at different different stages let us chant the next two vers also page number 13 that's a different topic we will take up tomorrow [Music]

1:22:26 B [Music] next one page 16 verse number [Music]

1:23:22 five s [Music] n so how purification of our mind is absolutely important from the beginning of the journey till the

1:24:08 end how this pure mind is useful that is a topic so that we will see tomorrow is a separate topic right [Music] Guru man Guru [Laughter] [Music]

1:25:17 Guru Maharaj Guru J J [Music] maharu Guru Maharaj Guru J [Music] juru J [Music] SW Guru J

1:26:03 [Music] J Nam om Nam om Nam [Music] sh Arun AR [Music] sh

1:26:50 Arun sh Arun [Music] sh om nam nam [Music] om Nam sh

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1:28:23 oh om om shant shant

1:29:12 shant om