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0:00 [Music] roses are red violets are blue we hope you enjoyed this little review there will be language that may be explicit so keypad a feature of little kids also there may be spoilers galore for the Sailor Moon franchise and another movie for sure the last but not least most important of all the opinions expressed do not reflect I've talked as a whole now sit back and relax enjoy the future presentation while the glitter sparkles from moon princess halation [Music]
0:54 hello everyone and welcome to duck talk where tonight a couple of loonies get together to discuss the latest of the theatrical releases that's right tonight we delve into another movies product of talks summit the movies my name is Tamar and for tonight you can call me Tuxedo Mask and joining me on this lovely adventure is my Princess serenity from anime Palooza GG oh that was so cute points for Jamal devold winning point everybody needs to catch up you and in case you couldn't tell tonight we'll be covering the vast media dubbed for Sailor Moon are the movie the promise of the rose based on the 1991 manga series pretty
1:41 Guardian Sailor Moon right now Kentucky UT this has been a moment over two decades in the making now for those of you new to the Sailor Moon franchise all four longtime fans of the show is a synopsis for you long before mama Lulu found his destiny with a soggy he gave a single rose and thanks to a lonely boy who helped him recover from the crash that claims his parents this long-forgotten friend Fiore has been searching the galaxy for a flower worthy of that sweet gesture long ago that mysterious flower he finds it's beautiful but it has a dark side and the power to take over planets to make matters worse this strange plant is tied to an ominous to Asheville in your earth
2:27 face was an enemy blooming out of control it's up to the stand the moon and the Sailor guardians to band together stop the dependent destruction and save mommy look now we will be discussing business Casca top to bottom because studio penises cleansing system is nonsense oh my god as well as gift yeah as well as give our thoughts on the performance in the movie as a whole now this since this is a dub of you there will be no predictions because it would be stupid at this point he would and as always we're going to start with the ADR director scriptwriter ADR director is Suzanne goldish but the scriptwriter is self Walter Suzanne goldish other
3:16 work she's directed she has directed a hundred episodes of bleach KNK missing King's Tiger and bunny as well as the majority of the Sailor Moon franchise oh my god oh yeah that girl's going to never be out of a job for the next like three years I know right as for Seth what the other ones he's been Forrest buh-buh-buh-buh-buh season two he's been four Digimon from season two of adventure 2 day 2 squad he's also in 4k missing King's Naruto and of course said the Moon Sailor Moon are so Wow thoughts
4:04 on the director scriptwriter Oh Lord well okay let me preface this Before we jump into everything by the fact that you and I I think are the biggest Muniz in dub talk and I've been watching Sailor Moon since I was a kid and I have a big nostalgia boner for this franchise and I have a be even bigger nostalgia boner for this movie like this is my favorite Sailor Moon movie to the point where I can practically recite it in Japanese so while I have seen the original dub of this movie my forte for this is actually the Japanese so if I make a lot of
4:51 comparisons between the Sailor Moon dub that we have now and the Japanese that's why because everything I love about this movie I love because of the Japanese dub now not to say that the old dub isn't great too but I'll get to that when we get to it but so as for the directing and the writing of this I mean there's really not a a lot to touch on it it's very true it's very true to the original Japanese to the point where I turn the subtitles on and it was almost dub titles the way they were going at it I have a couple of points that I want to talk about but I mean what do you think about it as a whole let's be honest I kind of went
5:40 into this blind because even though I did a big Muni since I was a kid I never really got to see the movie until earlier this year I was going I was only seven when the franchise came out and I know I'm just dating myself if I only ever saw I've only ever seen like the first two seasons and then it kind of pretty much died down for like 15 years or so once I started picking up again made it a habit to like this is pretty much the entire franchise I mean end it my love for it still holds strong so when I saw the movie I was I was very impressed with the story even though it's an only only an hour-long film it still managed to capture the spirit of
6:25 Japanese as far as I can tell yeah it definitely doesn't need more than an hour just to tell this little snippet of a story that we have here to the point where I can always tell the part where I'm going to get emotional it's around 40 minute scene in case you were wondering where I start to cry like an [ __ ] oh my god when she starts ripping those flowers out of that mountain I just I'm done but there were a few couple of points like in the Japanese that I was just really hoping that they would keep in the show and other than one I think it was very very true to it like the one I was really hoping for was and this is like a huge directing choice and a writing choice also is when
7:13 they're fighting that first flower monster and asagi gets like thrown into that empty cafe or something I remember when she be uses like on top of her and she like covers her mouth so she can't breathe you know I'm talking about yeah that's like and there's like no sound for like seven seconds like that's in the Japanese and like every time every time I watched it I saw my poor DVD was broken and called my dad now we likewise why is nothing happening and he's like just wait for it wait for it little GG little baby GG wait for it and then all of a sudden she'll start to breathe again so I'm so happy they
7:58 decided to stick true to that and not put any kind of noise or any kind of talking whatsoever in there and then the other thing I just want to touch on really quickly is when they're in the I don't know whose house they're in maybe Ray's house who knows when they're all talking together like at a table and there's any ax and ami is like talking about like oh I guess Mamoru is popular with the boys as well and in the Japanese like it gets like they call her like perverted it's really funny and in this I didn't do that so I was like they like really tried to PC that up like Oh like I heard him in the background and they were like oh I have people at my school were in that kind of relationship and somebody else was like really and I
8:44 was like wow you really like PC that did so uh definitely a writing choice there because in the Japanese ray called ami perverted and I was like oh god that's hysterical to me um but I mean other than that there's nothing really special about it I didn't like the translation of raise a Clio taesan which now it's like evil spirit exercised or something and then like the pronunciations are so different from what I'm used to I was just like I know that's a Japanese thing like they have to get it approved by the Japanese licensers and everything but
9:32 just a decimal but that's my way with every California dub it seems like like the pronunciations aren't what I feel they should be in like sitting right next to the Japanese talking but yeah I definitely see where you come as long I think that yeah is more of a mandated choice but I mean sometimes it also tends to be a late dose in general like sometimes it could be a little drawing compared to the Japanese but you know not every dubs going to hit it like exactly you know there's always going to be some kind of deviation exactly and and I have a confession to make is this is like the first time I've listened to
10:17 the new dub of Sailor Moon even though I own it all this is the first time I've actually listened to it other than like three episodes of crystal so this is my first time hearing all these these characters and oh man oh man and speaking of the new dub let's move on to pretty much our first batch we have oddness and we have Luna they are both no servants to the silver millennium family unrestrained me Nicole sympathy and that's remain by sight ever since learners training you sake is both
11:02 a guardian and as a princess both have a sibling relationship of their master as well as romantic feelings towards each other ah pretty much the besides army they're the brains of the team if you will they don't they take my arm I pack pretty much the one the whole situation with the asteroid arises they pretty much have a sneaking suspicion that evil is afoot and sometimes they'll commander's seem to transform although you know that's a nice thing and yeah and so Ottomans is voiced by John Young Bosch while Luna is voiced by Michelle
11:51 worked Johnny Yong Bosch would most likely recognize them as go Kurosaki from Bleach the loose from the Code Geass franchise automation utter from danganronpa faster stampede from trigun but it's most famous workers of course it's Adam Park from Power Rangers oh yeah the black Ranger strikes in the rain yes as for Michelle well father was using her in is as woo kiya Kuchiki in Bleach Yoko letteth of gun the gun would you come in a thumb loop in the third by two for mystery of Mamo and the woman called Fujiko meaning as
12:37 well as Crimson Viper function five two four and five now what do we think of the two guardian cats in the captain x positions that we have here yeah pretty much Johnny and Johnny Yong Bosch by the way plays my favorite Jojo Jojo just saying yes see and hear I barely I barely have any notes about them they didn't really have a whole lot to do in this movie except for being kitty captain expositions and to be quite honest with you here's where my nostalgia is going to happen especially in these damn cats I really miss Luna talking like a drunk
13:24 Mary Poppins in the original tub that's what she sounded like an Artemis sounded like like an old an old nerdy dude and I was like Artemis isn't nearly as nerdy enough and Luna isn't nearly as Mary Poppins enough and I know in the Japanese Luna sounds like normal she's like a teenage girl but I I can't get behind the new ones they did fine they just fine for what they had but for somebody who grew up with this I just I miss them I wish they would have done something a little bit different or like to make them stand out and they just Kitty exposition yeah I have a feeling you and I could be butting heads a lot tonight we alright gentlemen because Wystan from a
14:12 nostalgia standpoint I thought all the messes you Reginald dub was ok he sounded like either but you gotta keep in mind I was 7 when I heard the original dub the other sons ultimate sounding like getting a bit of workman accent I was a little off-putting and noona I didn't like it at all because Luna it sounded strange to me as a kid and then when I go back to this into it it still sounds strange to me it still sounds off-putting but that was the way they marketed it because they thought yeah you know a British voice would be good this time you Mary Poppins is around so why not again oh no how old sorry I don't even know how old I was when I was watching this I just knew that I watched it a lot and I had like I
15:00 had everything like on tape like tapes from somebody else that were given to me and I was like what is this so I mean that's probably why where it comes from I know as I was watching it on UPN back in the day and I'd even know on tsunami I even know tsunami was a thing back then right I didn't even I know I mean back then if I had listened to the original dub I probably still would have found it off-putting but as for the new dub they did a pretty good job just which I could had a bit more yeah I mean in the earlier episode like in season 1 of the series there it's all kiddie exposition it's all Luna and Artemis all
15:45 the time so I have a feeling like once we go back and watch that we'll get a better sense of who they are as their characters but in here there wasn't a lot to talk about and for me I was just on a nostalgia binge and really kind of missing missing the crappy British accent let's move on now to pretty much two characters who have an unhealthy obsession with mamamoo and one character that has obsession with our antagonist I'm talking about chigusa Fiori and the Castilian flower TV user is pretty much she looks to be like a
16:31 little seven-year-old girl but she's actually 900 years old who traveled back in time from Crystal Tokyo we got before before I move on we got one everybody there will be spoilers not just for the positive parts of Sailor Moon are in case you couldn't tell by the title the cheapy user came back in time from Crystal Tokyo to rescue her parents and her friends who at the time thought it was a good idea to try to steal the silver crystal from Usagi keep in mind she's a kid she doesn't know anybody yet and so she pretty much has an air about her that she wants to be strong but
17:18 lacks the power to do so and then you have fuel a who is a long-lost childhood friend of mammals who was actually here from another planet who's so determined by his friendship that he allowed them to get possessed by a flower he found out another planet and the felt intense hatred towards Sailor Moon he's determined to whisk mime away so they could be together forever this sounds like a coil of kind of LCL shall we yaoi Gigi Joey corn I'm sorry I'm sorry I got carried away I'm also Bo even though this so I'm not
18:03 I've seen is that still of it this this part right here is like a like they're like sort of flashy points in here but like this part right here is like super Tuxedo Mask BL which you don't get a lot of so I'm taking it number running straight to the bank zo and of course get this any flower who whose main powers to feed on the energy and hatred of people while pretty much paging friendship against each other in a sense and so cheap user is voiced by sandy fox viola is voiced by Ben disken the sentient flowers force by Carrie Karen to go over
18:51 other words sandy Fox is Flo and yes to risk war she's how enough of do our work and she's detaching comas from ghost in the shell stand alone complex bend their skin he's also joseph joestar from proto's bizarre adventure farm from this yeah bond from the seven deadly sins and go via uma know from the Sailor Moon franchise hate him really I can't stand him no he's really even no yes oh [ __ ] maybe I should watch these in one yes
19:38 lack said yes tends to have a bit of a nerdy voice oh it kind of makes sense here as for Carrie Karen she's Casca and berserk the original berserk tub mahiru Koizumi from danganronpa mom from Hyperdimension Neptunia mami tomoe away from Madoka Magica she's Lila from tail sisters she's Lila from Tulsa says she's lined up from tales of zestiria and Hiroko said Oh from your lion April so let's begin alright well I guess we'll talk about the demon spawn first okay I mean you're gonna say that you knew I was going to say that I don't like to be yousa
20:24 however however let me give this up to Sandy Fox big props I did not hate this chibiusa in this movie with her voicing chibiusa like I felt that she was an actual tiny small child instead of somebody who came from nine hundred years in the future and knows her way around the block and had that black lady still in her so I was like okay okay sandy Fox I can get behind you doing this 1,000% and me who dislikes should be you some more than any other character in this whole franchise I liked her with this performance in his movies like I got behind should be you
21:09 so I thought she was a cute little kid I'll never say that again so take it and run Jamal take it right in the base case woman-101 it was yeah III definitely agree with you this I think I forget who said it was but you can judge how little and acted as the performance by how much it makes they make you want to punch them I think that was I think that was y'all when you would kiss him not me sounds accurate yeah I mean I want but she use a mean I love that pink sugary ball of love you know I mean I I can understand how annoying she could be I mean I used to
21:55 be kids once upon a time I was very annoying uh but you know I could well I better place this properly I could see part of my kid's personality in her and I can relate to what she's trying to go through okay that sounds better that sounds good yeah like it I just in the english dub and in the japanese I've always disliked to Eva just couldn't stand her so to have her be played to the point where I actually liked her and during the English dub now I cried like a [ __ ] when I watched in Japanese 40 minutes to the end the only part that I
22:41 teared up while watching this dub was when she's on the roof she uses on the roof and she said Sailor Moon is everyone's mom and then I lost yet I lost it I was like oh she is everyone mom yeah God why is she used to making me cry don't understand my life right now um but yeah that she and she also actually sounds like her and who soggy belong together like they sound related which is something that I never got from any dub even when the Japanese voice of Chibueze has stepped in and played Usagi for two episodes in the original Japanese never did I feel like their
23:27 voices were similar at all but here I really felt that they were family and they were related so I mean sandy Fox was getting all my props here seriously this is probably going to be the highest props for the small maybe I'll keep you in suspense all right then with that being said let's move on to Ben Diskin what do you think of you ah Ben Diskin you're a fury like I'm like on the fence with this because when he was human I didn't feel the same amount of danger and I didn't feel the same amount of dread when he was like the human for the few couple
24:13 minutes at the beginning but when I enter into the alien oh my god that's when like the switch turned on he was so much better when he was alien Fiori and then when he became red fiore at the end forget about it he was like sexy bad I was like drop the mic yes please turn my planet into a million flowers I don't care whatever you want yours for you but I mean it was it it was good it like there definitely was a point where I feel he turned the switch on and once he got to that point I believed it plus Fiori plus no more forever be all for life yeah I agree if you did because to me he sounded like if price
24:59 no no no offense to the actor I'm about to mention here but he sounds like if Vice Pappy book could be emotional oh yeah that yes he had the same tone as by static book but he was able to tackle the emotional scenes as tackled the obsessive tendencies that Fiore has now I mean I have a question for you first of all I couldn't find credit on my blu-ray at all so I don't know if they were actually there but does bright you just price pepper hook voice baby mama or baby Fiore I know I think that's all no baby fury was bent disc in my mo is Mama's voice actor as
25:48 for the credits however there is a very good explanation for that go for it see you see in order to find out cuz I didn't notice till about yesterday in order to find out who you scriptwriter was for the show cuz and did not have it for some reason I found out by digital version and I paid a certain amount of money on my xbox just to watch the digital version which does have the English credits where the hell are the English cut it on a blu-ray like I went I went everywhere I couldn't find it or not that's really kind of bogus viz can we I'm just wondering I'm just
26:34 wondering how much of it was a vision how much of it was totally as you know as Todd you would say toe he's kooky although I have a few choice words with Joey but we're not going to mention down to podcast well I mean they always could do what center does when they put the black box at the end of every episode and just roll their credits the other thing that I found really weird with this release and we'll get back to talking about the dub in a second was that the restoration into HD was so like jarring the colors were so bright I couldn't read the subtitles the subtitles were like in terrible white with barely any outline I couldn't [ __ ] read them I had to go back to my old DVD copy just to watch it in Japanese and read the subtitles because I couldn't I couldn't read them yeah I
27:22 mean why I like the HD remaster and tony has a track record for being inconsistent with this stuff just ask any Dragon Ball fan or Precure fan they'll tell you oh let's not talk about how I can't get my hands on dragon boxes and once it's so bad anyway but yeah back to back to the dubba hand baby mama and baby Fiore both of them sounded like Bryce captain Brooke which is why I asked that which I thought it was really funny that you said that I thought one of them was Bryce happened Brooke no but even that he did make an appearance in the season one but that's pretty much it nobody comes back to season four anyway
28:08 moving on Carrie cannon and there's this little possessive flower who I pretty much want to take some weed whacker to where do you think of her Carrie how was your time at playing the sexy weed whacker oh my god she was she was sexy she was evil enough she had a nice nice death like I liked that part when she died I mean not that she died but you know like it was I felt it I felt her dying as a little sexy flower should I just wish it were more consistent the way that they pronounce the name of the flower because in English they pronounce it completely differently like they pronounce it kiss
28:54 onion and everywhere else it's always been sunny in so I'm like but she has nothing to do with that little sexy flower A+ I liked the little effects that they used on her voice hey Rizzo she was the on screen uh even though she didn't have as much time on screen I did like I did like her performance for what it was especially when she possesses fjordane it I'm not even gonna ask and I was surprised at like how much of the content was the kind of section was like wow right here I was like oh I don't
29:39 remember it must blocked it out but yeah it was the hardcore little flower man talking about spreading their Stevens [ __ ] everywhere yikes but I like religion I like the bad guys in this movie I mean we only get really two bad guys and I don't think they're forgettable like a lot of the monsters of the week are in most of the Sailor Moon stuff that we get so yeah and go for that I said general consensus is the performance are pretty good he was awesome the characters or not so so
30:24 let's move on to pretty much the main cast and we're gonna start with these inner Senshi whoa let's do this all right all right go get your get your transformation freeze ready here it comes kids first up we have Santa's Venus also known as Santa Fe but according to the story is the original leader of the team she possesses the power of love and certainty song reference here she's actually the first person to actually be awoken by Artemis I tend to think that she and who Sagi are kind of sisters
31:13 because they're both blonde they both tend to be bit of a klutz all the ones not quite baby and she's very gung-ho when it comes to a mention when it comes to any mission in general and so Sailor Venus is of course played by Amy Lee other works my senior in is she's also Takeshi from Bogata HK she's Elizabeth Medford from the Black Butler franchise she's Lucy Heartfilia from Fairy Tail the Lipton Lichtenstein from Italia and Patty Thompson from Soul Eater Oh what are your thoughts on Sailor Venus
31:58 Sailor Venus Sailor Venus is my favorite inner I love her when I was a kid I thought I was Sailor Venus I look just like her except I was fatter Oh like oh my god I was like why is she my life anyway oh so I guess we're going to talk oh we're going to talk about the UH the dub of this yeah okay so uh like with Sailor Venus also I ranked how everyone did their transformation yells because I'm an [ __ ] like that she was the one I felt did the best job transforming into Sailor Venus I felt it I felt her edge and one thing that I don't normally feel
32:43 when I listened to share Amelie is that she has an edge I think she's very sweet and the only time I've ever heard her actually have like this mean girl kind of thing going on and doesn't even really like a mean girl but likes is psy and peach girl I won't talk if you want to mention peach girl I just watched it but um you're welcome Noah yeah no it's going to be like what but I I felt the edge with her here I saw her edge and Sailor Venus I thought that she was like the warrior ready to go which a lot of people peg Rae for but honestly I
33:29 always think it's Minako and I really enjoyed her as Sailor Venus I liked her better than the nostalgia dub which again is about as high as I can go right now that's pretty good i from where I barely remember yo dub I do think shimmy we did a better job at Sailor Venus I mean that's not to discount the old actor you know it's it was a prize product of his time Shammi need hip pretty much all the right notes for me I was actually even surprised like when they announced you where's the new cast for the original dub I was like wait what like you a lot
34:18 Saigon's good cuz I was because this was quite one of the first times I ever figured out that SHINee moved na buying another series that I rather not mention on his program because a lot of people hate it but yeah I did find she did a very good job overall and this well and I really love to see more of it yeah she she has everything going for her to be like the perfect Sailor Venus and I mean it made me forget about the old one it had notes of the Japanese performance in there which is always good which so I can see why they cast her but sherry leaves knocking out of park I think
35:03 she's adorable like I really like cher Amelie so I was very I was very happy to see her in this anime in any way possible and then the fact that she's like my favorite inner Senshi I was like yes girl Queen so very impressed very impressed I'm giving you the V right now for victory you can't see it but I'm doing it I'm just very sad face I couldn't get autograph at a be me too I missed her the entire time yeah her and the actor for Tuxedo Mask which we'll be getting into but general consensus we love chumminess whoa
35:49 you pretty much getting high marks from Gigi girl because you're playing a favorite inner Senshi yeah v c'est la vie good job now gonna get to my in this favorite Senshi here comes the Thunder it's Sailor Jupiter nice oh man just talking about her is gonna put some sparkling white pressure on me pretty pretty much and I'm going back with the case I realize pretty much she was the coolest Guardian to join the
36:35 team even though Sailor Venus was originally the first awakened she was the fourth guarding to join the team her powers pretty much she controls lightning and thunder and it's a very informant she has a huge green thumb and a love for cooking but when she gets down to business she is pretty much the the strength behind the team if you will she'll back her friends up when the time calls for it and so says a Jupiter is voiced by Amanda Samira other works Amanda Miller is voice she is of course boruto from moto now to the movie for Andrew she's solely and Cherokee from
37:21 Fire Emblem Junko and Tocco from danganronpa the game as well as young Seiko from danganronpa 3 and she's Conaway a mercury from blazblue chrono phantasma so well what are the thoughts on Sailor Jupiter you know what I'm actually gonna go yeah I was like you talk about your best girl first you pretty much when I first hood Amanda moon in this role I actually pretty much liked it like right off the bat and then somehow actually go through a con I think was Emerald City Comic Con I saw Susan Roman who was the original forces 70 and Red
38:08 Hood when I heard her performing this was like wow it's amazing I think Amanda captures to capture the spirit of the original while putting homes like touch on it you know it's those it stays true to both the Japanese and you Reginald up on I don't know if they ever replaced her in the probe we dub because I was too young to remember the rest of the show oh I think she did a very very good job as far as I could tell you know I'm really glad you said that because all that I wrote down for her was it sort of sounds like the old Jupiter but it sounds like a new Jupiter at the same time because she has this little gravelly rattle in her voice I
38:56 know that sounds weird but if you if you listened to the nostalgia job like you know what I'm talking about like Sailor Jupiter doesn't sound like anybody else and Amanda C Miller puts like hints of that in her performance so it doesn't like sound 100% like the old one it sounds like you know her her own Sailor Jupiter with just that little hint to keep [ __ ] like me who love the old dub you know consigns I thought she did an amazing job I really I really did I never heard her and anything before that I can remember off the top of my head so I was like who's this girl like I I I've never heard you in anything but I really liked
39:42 what she did with it how she kept a little bit of the old in there and then made Jupiter all her own so I was super happy with it and her transformation was pretty good I gave it like a little bit above the nostalgia yell for for my sake so I really liked it I'm glad you say that because one thing about Amanda moon as well as I'm I will I want to say most of the Senshi Amanda Miller her favorite sin she is of course Santa tuba so when she got triple so what you got to perform at her she was very excited you can see how much dedication went into that she really did I felt I feel
40:28 like she did her homework like like I feel like she went back and I don't know if she did this but to me it feels like she went back and watched some of the old one just to see how it was and then put like the tiniest parts of it in there maybe that's just how she is because like I said I haven't heard her voice anyone else ever that I can that I could peg but I was super happy with it I've measured twice the person that believed you liver not Itachi actually kind of sounds really ashy yeah she's pretty cool oh that's cool good job Amanda see Miller you're like you're good you're cool girl I'll buy you a drink yeah all right of course channel
41:15 consensus we love this performance very much some more than others so let's move on yeah so let's move on now to of course the one feeling do food Aditi Oh Tyson Sailor Mars of course Sailor Mars powers pretty much the power of flame is what is the power of divination she's pretty much a psychic but also a bit of a hothead especially when it comes to dealing with Musashi in her childish nature at times but deep down inside she has heart and it shows and so Sailor Mars is forced by
42:04 Christina V and other words I'm asking her in she's Louise from the familiar of zero nor familiar from plays blue of course quinoa zoldak from Hunter hunter 2011 coach ream enemy from love life they'll be quote from tell sister at Big Time velvet quote from tellus of sister years the class and co-hosted so from your lie in April so what our thoughts say the mine Sailor Mars she is the best song by the way her best BGM Sailor Mars always
42:51 Sailor Mars okay before we talk about Christina via Sailor Mars I just wanted to say something here maybe it's just me I found that little beads game during the transformation seek with a little off-putting really just a tiny bit you know it's I mean I'm so used to it that if I don't hear like them singing in it like it just makes me sad I'm like why are they not singing it because in the nostalgia they don't I act understand and I like it too it's just that for the scene you know when they stop sad well yeah it does kind of take you out of it but one of the one of the big things like I guess when the movie first aired
43:39 was that people were going to get to see all new animation for the transformation scenes and I don't don't hold me on this but I think they might have redone the music to just for the movie so that was like a big deal like I remember watching it and I was like it's so different from what's on TV oh my god I was maybe Gigi which was very excited by the transformation say anything but yeah Sailor Mars Cristina VI first of all I was so afraid that I was going to hear kilwa through the whole thing because that's what I know Cristina V from however I didn't so I was very excited
44:24 about that and actually she is the closest sounding to the nostalgia tub like she bailed sounding exactly almost like perfectly how the the first Sailor Mars did I don't I didn't watch it like once the second half of our kicked in and s once they dub that yeah no I wasn't touching that with a ten-foot pole but she sounded closest to original Sailor Mars so I was like yes I was like this doll just happening the glitter this that's so wonderful all for Sailor Mars
45:11 let me say that I feel like I'm back at a B and you and me doing the sing-along I'm decided we had decided we had to subject Paul Lutz to it though I mean he knew when he was giving it useful he was getting it going to the Sailor Moon panel with us yeah but going off what you said yeah I do agree with you it sounded very closer to us no maybe to the point that it kind of sounded a little deeper than you rational especially with the transformation yeah yeah I agree with that well over time I got used to it and I go to performance yeah yeah the one thing I have to say
45:57 about it was that Sailor Mars for me especially in the Japanese when who Sagi gets hurt up on the asteroid and when they're trying to revive her she broke me like Sailor Mars would break me every time just her screaming ooh soggy like without the chin because you know they're close enough so that she doesn't never saw this Auggie Chan breaks me every time so I was really really hoping that I would get that same kind of emotional performance from Cristina be out of this and I felt it was like a couple of steps under like I never got I did it didn't tell get my heart as much as the original I didn't cry so I was
46:43 just I was really really hoping for that because that's so much of what Sailor Moon are the movie is is about the bonds between these girls so if you don't believe that Sailor Mars is in physical pain because whose sake is dying like that's where I always felt it was with Sailor Mars and I I didn't feel it as much here it was it was fine like I think it was good for her performance of it but just comparatively to the Japanese like I felt like the Japanese was like a 10 and this is maybe like a seven and a half yeah I can I can understand so your point of view I mean to be honest I I
47:30 can't remember if I took kind of torpid I seen I think the only time I ever really talked when Mars was involved was when she was dying it was when what happened at the end of season one you know yeah all the Guardians holy [ __ ] man they started coming down my face that was like two episodes I did not stop crying for like two episodes I was like it's 45 me I'm still crying why is this happening but I said oh my god and no matter how hard I tried the binge that that episode even the play knew today episode it gets me emotional you can't do it like because you know what's coming if you've seen it already and it's just like I don't want to go there I don't
48:16 want everybody to die like I want everybody to be fine and you know obviously they all like get revived or whatever but it's so hard to watch any of them die and like you want to feel that in the performances this time around now I haven't seen it it's for the end of season one so I can't comment but just the one here like I like I said I felt it was really good but it wasn't like 10 out of 10 screaming new Sagi good like I could do it right now but I'd probably murder both of our eardrums and we don't want that oh yeah so Delta synthesis Christina peas performance is good what kind of mixed on if it's better or not the directional is mostly equal for the most
49:02 part yeah all right so moving on now to the Guardian of water and I buy that I mean Sailor Mercury it's pretty much yes pretty much a book form the brains of the team and like everybody else she gets a hot food soggy at the same time happy cause there's the thing about Sailor Mercury I know this I know pretty much you don't like her but a lot of my guy friends seem to like the bookworm type and I can understand why you know I got I got sweater but that's neither here nor there yeah so pretty much she's pretty much d yeah
49:51 like I said she's bring to the team she does the best to help her friends out of a jam when needed that's a lot of compassion and even though in the 90s anime she's originally one the weakest she's actually stronger than you might think and so Sailor Mercury is voiced by Kate Higgins and other words you might have heard Kate Higgins in she's of course c2 or CC depending on whatever you want caller from Code Geass she's sable from fate/stay night and she's cyclist from denial to franchise so what are your thoughts cheesy you know I don't like Sailor Mercury I don't like Sailor Mercury I know
50:36 Sailor Mercury is so friggin worthless to me she's like not at chibi-usa level the worthless but like just a tiny step above should be used a little the worthless honestly I blame down ekoo hala yeah yeah like I mean it's just oh but my bias to the character aside what did I say about mercury she wasn't nerdy enough she was a nerdy enough i if you're gonna be a bookworm be a [ __ ] nerd don't be like the hot sexy bookworm which I know I feel like they were trying to like pull that off here because mercury is like not really under do you know what I'm saying but she is at the same time like they
51:25 want to make her seem like she's normal and everything but I don't know you know me I love typecasting I wanted her to be a nerd you wanted to be more nerdy have you heard of the live-action portion of the Moon the Japanese one or the American oh no no no no no the Japanese ones I don't want everyone that's about the America yeah I've seen I've seen like 10 or 12 episodes of it but to be quite honest with you I don't remember it yeah is cheesy as hell but somehow seems to be guilty pleasure might but yeah in that one she's a bit more nerdy to the points
52:10 you did to me to the jiminy looks normal I just I wanted her to be a nerd I wanted her to be a nerd I mean in the in the nostalgia tub granted I didn't like her in the nostalgia job either but she was way nerdier even if she sounded like an even drunker Mary Poppins more than Luna but I just I wasn't really feeling it now I will say this because we're not really talking about this in Sailor Moon crystal I felt she was a much more believable mercury than she was in this I think it has something to do with updating that character though so that mercury isn't nearly as nerdy but for here I just I felt that something was
52:57 missing and again I talked out to Eagle Allah because I know when they started producing the series originally like they in have enough for the manga content to go off so of course that's when things start to break off as for the dub performance however maybe it's just me by kind of fine kay Hagan's performance to be he kind of equal to the original I don't remember much of the original but once I heard kay Hagan's it's like I started to come back to me also certain really that that's just my opinion you gotta remember I was very young when I started watching Sailor Moon I mean I definitely see where you're where you're coming from I just I don't I don't hear it I don't
53:44 hear the original at all in her performance which is great she wants to make it her own into which I say go for it for me it didn't work that's here in this movie it did not work for me hmm that's understandable general consensus is so 50/50 split I can't believe we're fighting over Sailor Mercury you would think we would fight over to be you said jeez I know is I got a few father Wisden to look to me for different reasons but that's not gonna do again looks pretty good to me but I'm sticking with Jupiter no matter what moving on moving on we get to
54:33 pretty much the central plot of the movie we have Mamoru Chiba aka Tuxedo Mask the object that said the moon's affection is and done yeah and during the movie pretty much I want that you want to get caught in between love triangle because Fiore was a bit obsessive when you reunited with mama I mean like yeah they want a little something-something they wanted it to happen somebody wants to do the poor boy he almost to the point he almost killed Sailor Moon - mama stepped in know Tuxedo Mask is voiced by Robby
55:22 Damon are the roles you've seen lobby Damon and he stroke Edo from Digimon Adventure tri chrono Lucifer from Hunter hunter 2011 he smokey Brown from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and he saw they come tell sister got them tales of sis he survey from total sister you get it yeah yeah so I'm gonna go laugh because I have certain words about this okay I I will respect that Tuxedo Mask my very first premiere has Bond oh
56:09 oh no mask I can't I can't I can't well okay I can so nostalgia dub tuxedo mask was awful will preface that we'll get that straight out there do not like this LG dub tuxedo mask at all Japanese tuxedo mask hahahaha however such a contrast between the Japanese and the new dub like Robby Daymond has a completely different tone of voice which here's my thing when he's Memorial when he's mamo-chan I think Robby Daymond is fan-freaking-tastic when he's tuxedo mask he does something weird and what
56:56 what the [ __ ] was it because I wrote it down when he's tuxedo mask like when he has a tuxedo on and the mask and the Cape I feel like he sounds kind of pretentious instead of like the royalty that he's going for like I feel like there's this bit of a fakeness in it so that he doesn't sound like royalty like because tuxedo mask ideally is a prince and a king I don't hear the royalty in there I just kind of hear like he's trying to fake it but when he's out of the cape Robby Daymond is oh my god please marry me tuxedo mask you know what I'm saying like yeah not to say that it's bad
57:43 because it's really not like I love it and I just how else did I say he's his tone of voice is just much higher than the original Japanese which plays the whole thing completely differently to me and it works for this dub it really does I think but I just I want to feel more sincerity from him when he's got the cape on yeah it kind of leads into what I have to say because I can I can understand some of your points I you think the potential spot was it comes from all those because he gives
58:29 every time you throw the roast out the 90s were a weird time the nineties were a weird time I kind of throw that role yet on I got to make a speech first I gotta make a speech first it's not going to make any Santa except hold my beer that's why I could yes that's why I can understand it comes off a little pretentious to you to me Bobby tends to be kind of swamped which I can appreciate in certain roles like here and somebody was kind of with because he played like a little kids or something like that uh but it's all his role in a digimon adventure which I did not like I'm just gonna come out and say cuz I'm never gonna get a chance to mention this
59:15 again I did not like his role in digimind venture try because I felt in that in that show he gave a hot but sex voice to a guy that they didn't need it like he's supposed to be a nerdy type Oh No and it sounded a bit too suave my liking as a matter of fact if no offense to Robby diamond if I had known we were gonna put movies down for the W Ward's I would pipe water put chill down as my worst performance but but back on track if you compared to to neither both in high school and they both have kind of a secret if you think about I did like him
1:00:00 in this role yeah it's a stark contrast to do which no Japanese and I know because you've met the original Japanese yeah he loves me he took a picture might eat a bag he posted it on Twitter then I freaked out in steps car it was really funny yeah I but what it was I think he did a great job I don't never much of the original and I probably should never remember the original but don't Bob Bobby did a good job regardless and Eva you go ahead yeah and like again like the couple episodes of crystal that I've seen amazing job in Crystal so I think it has something to do with how the
1:00:46 character of Mamoru is updated he makes a really good updated model Shan I just I know Tuxedo Mask is a pretentious little [ __ ] sometimes but when he's saving us Augie like I want him to be that Prince I want him to you know whisk her away on his white horse and like cover in his cape and like take care of all her anything that ails her and I didn't get Prince I got Duke again the 90s were where time and speaking of whisking his girl away
1:01:31 of course gonna move on to the titular character of the movie Sailor Moon also the object of Tuxedo Mask affection is the reincarnation of Princess serenity and future neo Queen serenity the self-proclaimed guardian of love and justice will do anything to look out for a friend she may possess the strongest power in the universe and there are those wanting to challenge it even if it means overcoming things with the power of love and friendship I believe this is where the trope might have God's gotten started but that's anybody's guess and so Sailor Moon is forced by
1:02:17 stephanie sheh stefan shade of the world's you've seen her in she's of course or he made from bleach using NASA from the Naruto franchise she's a wrecker from Erica 7 doing Holloman from Kayla kill and I'll cover Koga me from lucky star and judge her by the quietness in the background I sense you have some words to you to you do care for it and then I was totally about to go into it and then all that came at my head was I am the terror that flaps in the night and I was like this is not [ __ ] darkwing duck the whole thing and then all of a sudden it came out of my mouth I am the chair that slaps a no that's
1:03:04 not right I fight for love and justice I am Sailor Moon zucchini koa Tech hockey oh yeah that didn't happen here um so I'm uh that spike to my levels real bad sorry friends so yeah I don't know I mean I know what I think but it I don't I don't want to be mean GG I mean I don't want to you know what I'm saying like here's my thing first of all I'm just going to start out by staying it straight up you guys know how I feel about little kid voice Monica rial I feel like Stephanie Shea is the West
1:03:51 Coast version of Monica rial I think her portrayal of asagi is squeaky I think it hurts me to listen to it I'm so sorry I think a lot of it is all OneNote especially during her attacks and during her transformation sequences Sailor Moon has like a lot of speeches also just like Tuxedo Mask but I like her speeches meant something to me when I was a kid they meant something that I wanted to run around with my friends and pretend that we were all Sailor Senshi and shout them like we were fighting bad guys they mean something to me and in this
1:04:40 performance I don't get I don't get it I just don't understand it I understand where they're coming from from casting her because she does have the squeaky properties of her voice that the original Japanese dub has nostalgia to beside that sale voices in its own freaking stratosphere like I can't even compare it to anything because number one I think like three different actresses played her so I don't want to get them mixed up and then stick my foot in my mouth but just between this and the Japanese they are very similar tonal wise and I do think that Japanese is soggy is again very
1:05:25 high-pitched and very squeaky which ideally I wouldn't like but I guess because I'm so used to it and that I went into it knowing that that was how it was going to be that it was okay and I felt the passion behind everything in the Japanese even when they say you know in the name of the Moon I'll punish you 200 times I still got it every single time and here I just I couldn't um like when she was sad when she was hurt I didn't believe her tears when she was
1:06:11 screaming in pain now this might be a mixing thing but I felt it needed to be a lot louder I will say this when she speaks very softly and very like Princess serenity very neo Queen serenity ish that's when I felt her it has some kind of she put some kind of weird I don't know if it was in there mixed in or that's her actual voice where there's some kind of filter on it but when she spoke softly that's when I got it I was like okay and that was at a point where I really needed to get it because you know she's trying to keep the asteroid from falling into the earth and she's holding on to the he's she's
1:06:58 holding on to Fiori to try and get him to understand her and that was where she needed to have that tone of voice and she definitely she knocked it out of the park but other than that I just I can't get I can't get behind her at Sailor Moon I can't I can't do it I don't know why I just this is a totally personal thing that I can't get behind her a Sailor Moon yeah the way it looks you don't mask and get behind oh I'm sorry I was also in the proprietary we run dub talk when is it ever appropriate oh good yeah I can
1:07:44 understand what you're saying because to be honest I again I don't remember much of the old up I did hear people talk about the original dub at least the original deep dope that the same you know she was kind of yodeling her attacks yeah it was already so at least on that front definitely shades already is step ahead and as for the rest of the performance I don't think she sounded a bit one no like there were certain there were certain times when she would speak even the regular series it would be certain times she'd speak that you can hear just talk normally most the time she's saying something dumb we'll just trying to be friendly with others but you know that's
1:08:30 what happens when you try to retrofit new actors into an old series you know nothing's ever gonna quite line up right yeah it's just I mean I feel terrible for saying it but you know how I feel about squeaky kid voice Monica rial and this is the same for me but on the west coast I can't get behind it I can't do it I'm the only one who feels this way I am I'm sorry I mean he is is understandable son Stan well you know Steve ice cup of tea and I know I can name names but I know some
1:09:17 people can find the character acceptable regardless of whatever performance you may give them by saying I don't know maybe it's just a kid to me but I think we saw these kind of a self insert character you know so maybe like when you're portraying is a it's trying to portray a teenager you know this can be a bit annoying believe me I know but sometimes teenagers can also be a bit annoying too so I think she kind of nailed in that regard a little bit yeah it's just Eddie Doakes could be a little bit drying in general see and I didn't I didn't feel that she was annoying at all like actually the Sailor Moon are movie in comparison to every other Sailor Moon thing ever this is probably Sailor Moon
1:10:03 at her least annoying and I didn't feel that it her performance was annoying I didn't feel like seven moon was annoying I just felt it was for most of the attacking which this movie has a lot of fight scenes I just felt it was very OneNote like I wouldn't want to run around with my friends screaming it I just wouldn't want to do it please say something good because I feel I I had I definitely I'm not saying much in a lot of other things so I don't know I can't compare her to anything else because I haven't really heard her in a lot I just I I don't know I well let me let me say
1:10:55 let me try to fix that a little bit because I have met stuff to say twice already I feel I feel like in terms of the performance you know the direction can only be given a certain way depending on I guess I was in the Japanese so maybe if it was a little annoying in the Japanese see they were trying to make it a little knowing in English you know trying to almost try and make it one for one if you will but other than actually did a good job nonetheless compared to the original dome this is true this is true compared to the original which was what a mess Sailor Moon says but uh yeah like that
1:11:41 sounds yeah again denied want to really want to tell me some life lessons I wanted some life lessons for Sailor Moon like don't touch the hot stove don't cross the street don't take candy from strangers and speaking of life lessons I think it's time to move into final thoughts oh as a whole what did you think of the movie entirely well like I started at the beginning this movie is a huge nostalgia trip for me I've seen it so many times I couldn't even tell you how many times I've seen this movie and to
1:12:27 watch it remastered for the first time I didn't get to see it at the theater so I watched my blu-ray copy that I bought so as for the dub of it I if I have the choice I'm going to watch it in the Japanese every time just because as soon as I learned how to read basically I was reading the subtitle to this movie like I it means so much me and is such a part of growing up that that's what I remember it with the I think the dub tried their best to both be faithful to
1:13:13 the original especially in the directing and the writing as well as what I have everybody's own spin on it some of it worked some of it didn't but if I have the choice between watching you know nostalgia tub new tub or two Bennie's I'm going to pick the Japanese but not to say that it's awful like I was honestly honestly I was expecting it to be awful and it wasn't so I'm very grateful and I'm grateful for viz picking it up and doing everything they're doing with the Sailor Moon franchise right now it in the dub I'd give it a solid seven out of ten if I
1:13:59 rank the Japanese a ten out of ten I'd give it a solid seven understood this for me this was actually in my entirety this was actually the first time I've ever seen the movie so I was pretty much amazed and maybe slightly disappointed but it that's because mostly it's a product of its time and again you're trying to retrofit something new into something old something is bound to be lost in translation whether it's the directing a little bit the writing the voices who knows at least we know now that a movie like this can age well if given the right treatment except for that awful CGI asteroid though let's not
1:14:45 even talk about that it was 1993 let's move on okay then and on that note it's time to end if you want to watch Sailor Moon on the movie it's available now I write stuff best by ofu by the anime there's also a digital version available in the Xbox and PlayStation Store as for the rest of the series you could buy the classic series which is dubbed up to season 3 on blu-ray and DVD as well as crystal which is up to season 2 the show is also available digitally on Xbox and Playstation as well as Hulu Yahoo you and biz with all five seasons of the classic available subs and dubbed up to
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