Dub Talk 296: Digimon Adventure (2020)

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0:45 hello and welcome to dub talk we're a group of nerds come together to talk about the latest and greatest of anime dubs and we've got a special tweet for you all tonight uh you see a few years ago I was hoping a I was hoping a group watch of all the disy B series that were at the time when a a few friends and some folks with the DBT crew and at the time we all thought it might be a fun idea to do a classic episode for the original Disney Mod adventure and uh some of the other Disney stuff and uh you know it's taking a few years to get that off the ground but we're finally here to talk about Disney Mod adventure and I'm really excited to get through the oh wait wait a second I see you made a mistake I think I missed the colon mark on the end all right uh so let's talk about the actual reason I'm here uh you see the actual reason I'm here is because I birn

1:32 through all of Disney B Adventure 2020 while it was being simoc casted and uh well I wasn't too happy with how it turned out I did swear that if it ever got C if it ever got a dub I would cover it here so fortunately or unfortunately for me it did in fact get a dub somehow so here I am suffering for amusement but thankfully I'm not alone I dag someone here with me so joining me on this ventur Meg did you evolve into disappointment I'm here because I hurt I like to hurt myself also because I [ __ ] love I [ __ ] love Digimon like a lot say and I like jet am old enough to remember when we had baby nerd Civil

2:21 War um between Pokemon and Digimon and then you grow up to realize that you you're Miguel andio from uh from uh Road Al Dorado where you go both both is good H yeah I remember having to do like f with my brother for the mod over like getting to watch Sim mod because he was more of a Pokemon guy but uh yeah we are here to talk about uh Digimon Adventure 2020 or Digimon Adventure col if you know you're being technical which why would you I don't really get why it's just a coal and it's so weird but uh yeah yeah it's the uh reboot to Digimon Adventure and uh people have opinions on that show we

3:06 have opinions on that show and uh you're going to be hearing a lot of them tonight goggle Jes goggle Jesus is rising all right uh so if you're not familiar with uh so if you're not familiar with Dy mod Adventure or not familiar with the reboot I mean I'm pretty sure most people know the old show at this point uh here here's the plot description courtesy of anon taii is in fifth grade prepared for a submer camping trip with a large scale Network malfunction occurs Tai's mother and his younger sister iari gets stuck on a tree and W stop moving and taii HS to see buia in order to help them however on his way there he encounters a strange phenomenon that gets him swept into the digital world along with the

3:51 other digy DED so uh yeah bit of a different setup from how the original series started I mean the summer camp I think is still there but uh and they definitely raced the sakes a lot sooner and uh yeah yeah there was no Camp there was camp for about 5 Seconds instead what we got was nuclear warfare in episode two uh yeah literally just oh hey it's always literally just hey it's the the world in episode 2 and it just it keeps going it just keeps getting worse like I I think we have both

4:38 genuinely watched some pretty bad shows for this podcast before like genuinely probably worse than this but I think we can both agree I don't think we've watched anything as soulless as Digimon Adventure 2020 uh yeah uh yeah uh full dis go yeah full dis go through for the audience here uh as was before we are both big fans of Digimon and the original Digimon Adventure D are particularly big fans of this show and uh for me personally uh it might actually be my new most hated anime like period which is a thing that feels really weird to say but uh yeah I I actually say by that I I don't think this is my most hated anime but I think from somebody who had who like like Digimon was probably

5:26 one of my very formative anime before I knew what anime was but like I usually say it to people like my first anime was fruits basket and as somebody who's a Fruits Basket fan I will 100% admit that I I literally live being a fan of a show with by far what should be the considered the like s tier gold star standard of anime remakes like I understand that I'm spoiled I really do um that being said I don't think I've sat like I think we we didn't I think I only sat through a quarter of this show cuz that's what we both determined was fair to watch for cuz this is like almost 70 episodes long um to discuss this I don't think I've sat through a a show or a reboot that just absolutely just did not

6:14 [ __ ] care for the thing that it was remade from and I I do understand from what you sent me that they they did adapt this based off of some other Digimon media that had come out out of the time as well and was very popular in Japan and that's media that we as Americans never really got and and for the most part A lot of the Digimon anime that we got was very much a product of the way that anime dubs especially for children were done in the 1990s in that they weren't always 100% faithful to the original Japanese were edited had a lot of Americanization for it but Digimon Adventure always kind of stood out as a dub among the rest that was while had you know like the the TV SMP of the 9s and stuff to it o still

7:01 remained fairly close-ish to its source material but granted they also weren't taking an anime aimed at like Japanese teenagers and like moving it down an age Notch like Digimon has always been like a kids anime yep and it's really funny that 230 somethings are complaining about a children's show but like my thing of it is is that while the original Digimon Adventure wasn't perfect it was still a really good kids TV show and actually respected its cast of characters and its viewers time I think the best way I can describe it is that this show runs by the jingly keys method where character development and plot progression is not actually earned

7:46 it is jingled in front of you with a shiny new power up hoping that you pay attention but if you like look up from the keys jingling you can see the hand and that hand is not is like covered in like feces yeah or that that's too mean I've I've seen worse the hand is very much like the hand of I don't know how to say it I don't know how to say it without something like Ultra mean and I don't want to be like super ultra mean to this uh I I mean you could just say it's a robot hand it's a robot hand or it's I think it's it was something that like Andrew and I were were talking about like a couple of us were talking about last night because as of the day we recorded this jump Fiesta was

8:32 yesterday night um it's you you don't see the magic of it once you've seen what Oz is like behind the curtain and when you when you watch this you're just kind of like but why uh yeah so uh yeah so yeah that's a probably going to be the mode where in tonight but we're going to try to have fun here because uh because we because I before we are here to talk about the dub and I am a little surprised this got a dub actually considering because I mean toy has been like fairly consistent

9:19 about ding dumping recent Digimon stuff but uh but you never know but you never really know with them they can be kind of fickle about stuff like that let's also be 100% real to has had a change of heart lately like a like a Persona 5 dungeon [ __ ] happened over them um yeah oh yeah they've definitely been a little more generous in over's Market I say that because also also somebody in the executive board died and suddenly things started being a lot more kind of reasonable ah man I wasn't even going to go there but like that does just feel like a really weird coincidence I mean rest in peace to the person who did pass away like our condolences to your family but also what the hell

10:06 yeah I'm just hoping that I'm just hoping that new five generosity might convince some might convince someone up there to be like hey you know what we have all this GRE care stuff and we should actually dub it and not hack dub it like actually dub it h it would be nice but uh anyway we are here to talk about this specific Digimon dub and uh it's a pretty interesting one yeah it's a pretty interesting one for sure so for anyone new to the so for anyone uh new to this program generally we like to go down the um ADR for the series and then got to go into the cats a bit uh so going with the usual trend of uh pretty much yeah somehow pretty much every Digimon dub it was done by

10:52 the fine folks at copoulos and uh and uh specifically for our ad are director we have one Ryan Johnson and and handing the thatp for the series we actually have several names uh we have Rd Chamberlain Henry Mason why CH Mark Ryan Seth waler and Steve kraber uh Ryan Johnson is a pretty uh is one of cop regulars and he's done a lot of stuff uh specifically things like toist do the abandon sacred Beast BL blood War and funny enough the digy triy

11:38 films and then uh and going into our scrip writers again Rd tamberlin has written for such things as Naruto Dragon Ball C of the blood Ruby specifically the harmony gold which was just a really funny credit I found uh the original Robotech and and and uh sing fact ofes a good old glitter Force oh God and then Henry Mason has done SCS for series as eeden zero engage kiss and Rise The Shield hero Wag has for such series as hensy and kabi and one of the GOI Heroes the new Mark Ryan has actually done a lot of stuff we before games uh including

12:25 things like Pokemon advance and jaama King 2001 as well as Digimon Fusion South wer has done such things as d g Mega Man Star Force and Digimon Tamers and save kber head on skirts for such series as Blackjack Shinzo and blue dragon so uh yeah a really uh interesting mix of uh director and writers specifically R of writers who have done kid show before which is uh kind of nice and Y Chang who wrot who did hensy very much not a kid show uh had I mean we had to get at least one I

13:11 guess but yeah but yeah Direction wise I think the dub sounds U really solid I I like how they casted I like how they casted the kids here and typically I sort of I sort of like the fact that they did kind of uh assembly group of actors who could kind of do really believable kid voices that is a thing that's not uh always an easy thing to pull out an anime and I'm kind of glad whenever it can be done and I think and I think it's handled pretty well here oh yeah no I like the cast of this I think going into it we all were pretty much aware that due to the Japanese side recasting everybody including from I believe they didn't even bring back anybody from the tri films if I'm

13:56 correct right yeah uh yeah the only actors they retained were the actors with didn't about themselves yeah so everybody kind of I think knew going into this that the original cast wasn't going to be back and unfortunately even if they were going to be back there were going to be obvious recasts due to a couple of the cast members passing away I think specifically that being um Feliz samper who sampler who played Mimi and Michael rice who played Joe no not Michael rice that was uh H that was Michael Lindsay okay yeah Michael Lindsay who played Joe like there were obviously people who were going to be recast in the show just

14:42 because like they had unfortunately passed away or since it's been like God like 20 something years um like obviously like maybe those people retired so I don't think recasting in this case was a super super bad idea uh would I wish they had gotten cameos from some of those people in some of the voices yeah I think that would have been like a really cool touch but unfortunately um some California studios like when they recast they like will not bring certain people back regardless and there's always the chance because toy is involved with the dub that they have more of a hand in the production process than others yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they were uh pretty not having people

15:30 back yeah so I don't think there's anything there that could I don't think it's 100% fair to knock this dub down because they didn't have the old actors back giving given a lot of context clues and I do think that is something that a lot of anime fans or especially dub fans don't necessarily think about that I would like to gently remind people of yeah as yeah uh on that note it's something I'll bring up later when we talk about aimon but there is actually one uh there is one kind of sort of interesting carryover from a previous digon thing but uh yeah that's kind of the only one yeah and and I will say that I think Ryan's Direction on this is it's very solid I do think that maybe the one kind of thing that might mess with people is sometimes some of the characters

16:16 actors sound like they're emulating the old Original Adventure dub and it may not necessarily work here because unfortunately like we've mentioned the material isn't that good and especially for some of the characters like most notably like I I personally think that like TK and Joe really get the [ __ ] shaft in their characterization one because TK just doesn't [ __ ] matter to this show for like God knows how long and two they just did Joe's character so [ __ ] dirty in this show mhm um that being said uh I also want to compliment the writing on this it's uh definitely a more modern dub there doesn't seem to be as many li like Americanization in Liberties like you would see back in the '90s and it's a

17:01 lot more faithful to the original Japanese from what I get that being said I do enjoy the attempts at humor that they in levity they put into this uh and it doesn't feel like five people wrote the show oh yeah it's nice that it's nice he gave the D some extra lity yeah it's some said that was eat because uh frankly the original version of the show doesn't have a whole lot of it so uh definitely glad they got it in where they good and and yeah for the amount of script writers they had in they show and all feels pretty seamless and uh even like like and even going off with the Digimon triy film this is probably like one of the most faithful Digimon DS we've gotten so uh yeah it's so yeah it's kind of nice to get a digimon done that's just like done

17:48 completely straight it's nice and but one particularly interesting as of localization I also want to appreciate is that uh if you coulding off this from having only SE the zoc cast and I mean that would be kind of weird but uh but if you are you will probably notice that these the characters here have and the characters here have different names typically the dbb names from the old D which is a bit of a weird thing that they've kept carrying over for some reason I I guess cuz toy had some involvement with the original D so I guess mhm they're just keeping it all for consistency it's weird but anyway but anyway they do keep that here and

18:33 what and what aspect of the oranization I do appreciate is that well you do still have the old dumb names here and there is kind of an attempt to sort of like uh integrate them uh a bit more naturally into the show as like nicknames which was the excuse they had for them back then so for example you have like Izzy actually introducing himself I Japanese name koshiro and then actually say oh my nickname is Izzy you know what that's cool yeah no that's fine with me if that's a way like it's a better way to it to insert that as opposed to just being like yeah no you're name is your name is Izzy now and or like it's better than the old four kids one where it's like it's like my name is

19:18 I got to look up something let me see what her name was let's see what their [ __ ] names were in uh oh yeah yeah here we go it's better than it's better than the old four kids thing we're like hello this is Tokyo Mumu her name is Ichigo in America her name is Zoe H H yeah there are the classics I think I something the funniest instance of that was when for kids tried to do an uncut version of Shaman King and it's like and for some reason they start to do a weird half measure with some of the character names so for so for one so for instance there was one character who's name was originally Mon and in the D's name was Morty so for the uncut version they just changed his name to Morty MTA

20:05 which is just like incredible you tried a for effort kids h four kids but uh but yeah I but yeah I definitely don't have any complaints about the about the directing Ting for I think they did a pretty good job for what they have with the material and uh yeah I would definitely say that I definitely say that you know was like the more enjoyable version of the show for me to watch oh that's good yeah no at this point like if you're going to watch this despite us all telling them that they're bad just please just watch the DB it's a lot more tolerable however do not Marathon the show you will feel boredom oh

20:52 absolutely but anyway now that we've talked about this s a bit it's time to get into the it's hard to get into the characters to which uh honestly uh honestly despite the whole uh disy mod Adventure title there frankly aren't a lot of recurring characters or characters that really speak because for some reason most of the disy bersion are just treated like wild animals so like half of them don't even speak it's it's weird which like coming off of coming off of people who watched Adventure like religiously as a child and like as an adult like a lot of the fun of the original Digimon Adventure were that a lot of the Digimon had personalities and they were like allies and enemies and some of them were reoccurring characters of course there

21:39 were dumb dumb personalities but like this is [ __ ] Digimon where there are some Digimon that are quite literally like this is a bear it's turned into another bear but this bear now has a gun for a hand but uh so uh but you yeah there are a whole lot of characters to dive into so we're actually just keep get to the corecast but uh but uh for the sake of not having like 20 characters on one slide we are going to split them up a little bit so uh first we're going to talk about uh the kids of the group we've got uh we've got uhari CIA or Ki the dub we've got takaru Isa or TK and

22:26 we've got Pabon that's uh Ki is Tai's little sister who who seems to have a mysterious connection to the digital world and and well that is kind of the same thing in the original version uh for the purposes of this show she's just kind of like um sing around just sort of uh you know uh giving off a serious Vibes kind of wondering what's going on hearing voices you know all those things she's she wome welcome back to the Digimon Holy Spirit yeah yeah and uh TK and TK is Matt's little brother and uh and while in the original show he was

23:11 kind of like the kitty kid of the group sort of had a very uh naive outlook on the world and that was kind of his whole thing uh in this version uh he's uh pretty much a sharing space with K in terms of you know just uh in terms of the whole like mysterious Destiny thing kind of standing around waiting for stuff to happen it's not great he is literally there he is quite literally there to give Matt plot motivation and like just sit there and like every so often like have his partner just go I am the light H yeah and then uh lastly we have patamon who uh is who's being known as a Celestial Digimon and for the first like

23:58 uh 20 odd episodes uh the main goal for the disy bond Destin is to track him down uh unfortunately uh P unfortunately we don't get too much time with patamon for the amount of episodes we wants but uh yeah uh be just kind of there to you know to set up the plot and then just uh yeah that's basically it he's there so we can see anamon in bondage uh he to which we to which we are talking about him but I'm I'm I'm pretty confident that's Chris acne play oh no it's 100% Chris acne he said he was which is really funny because it's quite literally the [ __ ] Demetri voice from three

24:47 houses with this with this hand to fate I protect the lesbians shout out to shout out to all five people who understand what that Meme is and the consequential he doesn't just hurt women he he doesn't just hurt when he Mur H all right so okay to get to who plays these characters uh uh for KI we have Ryan Bartley for TK we have Karina boder and for Pabon we have Lizzy Freeman uh Ryan Bartley his wife characters as Gilda and the promised numberland rayi and the vsi of

25:32 the Genesis Evangelion and RAM and rezero coder his play his characters as Somalian Somalian far Spirit goo and d gako and teral tornado when one p by season two and see free play Such characters as kaga and Spector Senpai and magical Senpai and H Tata and Tokyo Avengers so we could probably start with Ki who quite literally just sigh goes Ty and is just cryptic Jesus uh uh uh yeah I mean yeah I mean to be fair that kind of I mean to be I mean to be fair that kind of isn't to this similar from how Ki was uh treated in the original series but they still

26:18 had like Ki had a personality in the Original Series yeah yeah yeah there was yeah there was at least personality there inste just Ki like original Digimon Adventure Ki like literally basically just told myotismon to [ __ ] off at points like she had she had some Edge to her is yeah there was at least a little bit of edge to your end they're kind of into a dis virion it it's kind of sad she kind of like her most notable things that she does is size nearly gets crowd surfed by a bunch of people panicking and then in episode 12 24 or something the other kids are solving a solution and the camera just pans over and she's

27:04 there cryptically and they're like oh [ __ ] she's still here oh yeah yeah yeah there yeah I will Adit there was something funny about them like being like Oh God we've got to like like oh God we've got to stop all these boats from cing or something and W like and you know trying to discuss all the particulars of the plan while she's just you know standing there she's not doing anything she's just standing there menacingly H yeah uh but I will say that like I get to the actual perance U I will say that R Bartley is probably like out of the cast she's probably the one who sounds the least like original counterpart but but I do like the Chate quality to the performance it's it's kind of nice like it's not for Ryan

27:49 Bartle do like a again voice but thinks he has a pretty good one yeah know Ryan Bartley has a great kids voice I think she's very soft and sweet sounding again I just wish the show remembered she [ __ ] existed for 26 episodes ah it would have been nice like I do like R Performance I it's it's just kind of sucks there is it like too much going on with the actual character and uh un fortunately it's kind of the same deal with DJ here I really like Curry's performance though I think they do a really great little kids voice calm down genin fans H yeah yeah I've never really heard

28:36 Karina doing bar voice before so I'm really impressed with how they sound it's good yeah I know I think they were a great great choice to be the new TK I think they had a lot of passion like obviously like I will say this though I think it's really weird Karina is double cast in this show I'm not saying who their other character is and I think I like that performance more because that character actually you know has a [ __ ] personality out of and doesn't spend 24 episodes just watching things and being kidnapped a bunch like if there is one thing that this show likes to do I've learned it is separate the kids or kidnap somebody yeah yeah and if yeah and if you think we're exaggerating there is a point in these Series where like Ty and

29:21 Matt are off on their own adventure for a while while the other kids are like and I'm not kidding are literally just sitting on a bed somewhere yeah they are Kai and Matt are quite literally trying to find the celestial Digimon everybody else is sitting on the this bench in Tokyo and then they they break into for some reason the show is also obsessed with having Digimon be Mex like Mecha bases and they break into this Mecha base with actual Digimon Jesus Leon who dies for your sins um it is not a true Digimon anime unless a leoman has sacri riced yeah yeah any or leamon are just like AI equivalent at Le one of the two yeah Leomon is

30:07 Arin H is Aon from uh The Lion the Witch and The Audacity Of This [ __ ] um I mean the Wardrobe um they break into this base defeat defeat this Bullman who gives them like some explanation also they randomly have a minitar battle minitar Manon they're also fighting a bull who quite literally does nothing but charge around in a circle and then they open up the thing and all of a sudden it's just TK there's no explanation for why the [ __ ] TK is there it's just TK and it's only there so that they give Matt and Tai a reason to keep running around in the digital world going to the Bas because not only is TK just suddenly there for no [ __ ] all reason he then proceeds to get kidnapped

30:53 Again by a digimon that was only seen in Digimon Frontier that is implied at least in Frontier lore to be a like Ultra powerful basically Guardian God Digimon but here he's just a moo for devimon uh let uh are you talking about the are you talking about the skeleton Ed guy because there actually is an explanation there I can bring up for you uh no it's vron the bird oh yeah yeah that is the corrupted Spirit of Darkness that gets attached to kigi and Frontier Frontier is Megan's favorite Digimon season I know my lore um uh that's good I just kind of upset that they didn't really use the skull night guy there because because that one is actually from that one is actually from Digimon Fusion and he was like the

31:40 best F in that show and I so I got of sad that not he just utilized poorly for here he just literally doesn't even get to say anything it's it's so bad yeah he he literally is like make me dig evolve that's it he like none of the like I'll be real outside of maybe Leomon and the ogon in this show to which real [ __ ] downgrade there not on his voice just on the way the character is because ogron and the original Adventure was a [ __ ] great character um yeah TK quite literally just exists to get to look at things get kidnapped and then when he's actually doing stuff he's actually really cool and I think Karina does a really good job there unfortunately I feel like all of the cool [ __ ] that TK is doing is just not earned and I don't

32:25 [ __ ] care uh yeah uh yeah yeah it really just kind of feels like yeah something is happening because blot and that's kind of TK's whole character yeah I and and the thing is like I like TK a lot I think TK was probably one of the cooler characters in The Original Adventure because he was the younger kid getting to do all the cool stuff and then he you know grows up a couple of years and commits one of the single greatest moments in Digimon history [ __ ] slapping Ken ah yeah that was beautiful yeah shout out shout out to Doug arold for probably a where TK gets whipped in his response to that probably Awakening a lot of things in baby otu H

33:11 yeah yeah yeah go ahead sorry I keep talking over you and I feel bad I just going to say it's kind of sad it doesn't show up in this B of episodes or at least that I know of but uh but but it is that but is that he has been attached in the frch I would like to P like he did at least have a roll in try which was nice mhm and then uh I think Lizzy Freeman does a cute job as patamon unfortunately patamon shows up for like two episodes of what we watch and that's about it is H uh yeah uh yeah it's kind of unfortunate Lizzy I yeah Lizzy's fine but we don't have too much to work off of honestly honestly honestly the main reason I posted for 26 episodes was that I time was that I wanted to at least make sure we could

33:56 can at least get something for patamon mhm um I don't remember exactly how much longer it is so got him show up but I think it's like another 10 episodes it's like 12 episodes It's a whole another core which is [ __ ] insane to me y um and like granted it took a while for gamon to show excuse me to show up in the original Adventure but godon was also a massive part of a major arc and and stuff and like let's be real like they were actually a pretty decent character and led to probably one of the most formative baby's first saddest anime moment of all time uh that you know

34:43 actually feel has weight and levity to it and feels like oh my God this is actually like really sad uh proba after wizard mod he's still trapped in the he's still trapped because remember if Digimon die in the real world they don't become eggs they go to hell uh I gotta love Digimon War but uh but yeah but yeah U but yeah as far as these three go like the performances are really good it just kind of sucks that like uh K and TK are basically just the exact same character with slightly different beads and it's uh kind of disappointing and then with Paton there's just not really enough to go off of yet but it's up

35:29 I have faith in Lizzy for doing it Lizzy's had an exceptional last couple years so oh oh yeah absolutely and uh and uh from there we're going to move on to uh to some the other kids typically the first like uh four uh the first like four or so who die uh runs into after he first after he gets to the digital world the first time the Apostles of Digi Jesus yep uh y so we're going to be covering them and their Partners so we've got uh kosir AKA Izzy and his partner taban uh Sora takui and her partner biobond joeo and his partner goaman and re tekawa and her partner

36:17 Pyon I mean pal well I guess I Pon I was like isn't that like one of the wasn't that one of the Dark Masters I I know my brain with the kitchen so that's so I yeah yeah so so Izzy is uh the brain of the outfit he's the guy with a laptop kind of you know coming over and stuff and not too much of aent yeah his character is probably the I would say Lee were the original like they don't have the they don't have the full backstory which is kind of

37:03 depressing because that was the thing I kind of like the most about that character but uh but aside from that like he's probably the least changed and then and then we've got and then we got his partner ton who's a you know just kind of a you know very chill insect gu he's good at people he's always been kind of like one of the more comic relief Digimon H and then we and then we and we got Sora who is you know kind of nice girl of the group as I also not Chang too much so in this version which is uh and it's kind of funny because because it's something I always feel like they did on purpose um so for this for this version for some reason they very speciically decided to make her Tai's childhood friend which which is just kind of funny

37:51 because um somebody on the staff someone on the staff doesn't like the epilog of o2 yeah if you were there for The Shipping Wars of the original digim Adventure that is extremely funny if you were a child and saw the original ending of 02 that was baby's first like ship appoint ship crashing for I think a lot of people where it's like Sora and Tai what was it like it was they were like they were like what [ __ ] dating Matt and Matt and her were dating or something in Adventure 2 and then they got married in the epilog or something uh uh uh it's been like a year or two it's been like a couple years since I rewat to I think very

38:37 specifically was like it was like it was like there was a pointed to there was a point in know to where I think like Sora was going to like a concert Matt was hosting and like Ty kind of realized that Sora had a thing for him so Tai kind of like you know put aside his feelings it's supported her and that was kind of the implication and like you know what could it was like know work good for him that was nice H but unfortunately uh the fans weren't uh not too happy about that so uh yeah there a lot of aggressive chipping Wars back then oh Sora oh Shipping Wars yep and uh yeah so continuing we've got s partner beot who is a just you know very nice cheerful little

39:25 bird and then we've got Joe Kido who is a who is kind of a lated overr war war 2's whose whole thing is that he's from a family of doctors and and feels like he needs to like overachieve so he's obsessed with like uh so he's very obsessed with like doing wild exam so he can become a doctor and like do right by his family and definitely a lot more obsessed with that with in his ver that he is in the original which uh got a bit more one it's anger inducing if you liked Joe like me as a kid mhm and uh then we got his partner goad who is just a very very chill very relaxed fish little fishy boy he's I

40:10 love him so much he's a good boy then we got BBE who is uh who's a bit of rich kid who who originally um who originally starts off the series having uh somehow made her own Little Kingdom in the digital world just somehow because of course you did as and and and TI again kind of rep to coming along it's it's pretty funny I can complain about a lot of the kids in this show but me is probably the one that they have done the least dirty Mimi is always the best character in Digimon Adventure I will fight anybody who says differently of course and then we got her partner palmon who uh who uh very uh just very uh chill

40:59 little plant dinosaur words it me me a lot very cute so uh getting into who plays these characters uh so H for Izzy we've got an yako for ton we've got chrisopher Swindle for Sora we've got Jeremy Le for bod uh we've got terce EDS for Joe we've got Damon bills for Gan we've got Al cazarez for B we've got suan young and from pal it's Karina B again so Ando it's play Such characters as uh and uh well forgive me if I but this but also I guess don't uh B Bast in

41:44 Bleach since after your blood War like ah you gotta love bleach names uh no Kaki in JJ kaen and tokuga yitsu in oku the chambers uh Christopher Swindle has played his characters as g t and Millennium actress Jack Hana Netflix Pocky and hulon and Digimon last evolution K uh jery Le his way his characters as red blood s Souls at work Chloe ser and Pokemon jour's and believe it or not because this is extremely funny be mod Adventure track yeah no that's just [ __ ] hilarious that's beautiful uh teras plays his characters as M misas

42:30 and your mle children Bulbasaur Pokemon and Kia did you want Adventure try because of course of course David mes his characters as aaki and sunny boy alone in St canvas and methio in Pokemon Horizons Alex Kazar is his point with characters as akakun the first in the new Netflix version of akakun Rebecca Ty Puck as Runners and their most back of the performance Lily AKA glitter piece and glitter Force I was goingon to say I thought you were going to talk about their Mr ramatu character look okay look if I have a look I have if I ever have a for I was going to bring it up because it's just it's so funny that don't exists okay

43:18 fair H suls his characters as Vina m in 86 a and Chainsaw man at Jupiter and Pokemon evolutions and then coder has done everything you bet to before and of course P get impact I can't be over Mimi being sharing an English voice with makima from J all right uh so uh which of these fairies should we talk about first I guess I I I I honestly think let's get rid of Sora and bamon first because frankly they kind of do the least now if there's one thing they carried over here that is also kind of unfortunate in its own way uh most lik the original Sora kind of gets the Le to do out of the gang

44:04 mhm and I mean it kind of sense because I do like Cher because I do like chery S as I once again um Jeremy way is good at kid voices like really good at kid voices in fact and if you don't believe me you need to watch Kor lives alone I am so I am so really B you can do a really believeable four yearold it's it's terrifying but yeah well this isn't quite as are of vocalist way is that uh it's still pretty good and I do think she does a pretty good job of you know making Sora seem very nice and down to earth and friendly just you know very nice kid and a little bit more tomboyish than uh su's Mimi who's a lot more feminine but of of course we never actually see Sora doing tomboy stuff yeah uh yeah I mean the closest we

44:50 got again is when why get the all first comp in the world as an end like she's got a whole bunch of are including like you know like she's got like hands like some bottles of water like a cutting knife and it's like you you know it's like H you know what it's good to get prepared yeah she was preparing to go back to the next camp and then all of a sudden hello I'm in the digital world yep kind of wish they got to play with that more but uh as before and this version isn't super big a character work unfortunately yeah I do think shery does a good job of like getting uh Sora down it's just I I honestly think that you know Sora just

45:36 doesn't [ __ ] do anything yeah uh and then uh and then uh with ter say V on um also not I who want D doing this version I mean I do think yeah mean I do think Terra off of Jeremy's sword pretty well when they but I can't say they have a whole lot I can't say they have a whole lot of chemistry because they don't get to you know have a whole lot of down time so but you uh but you kind of but you can sort of believe I maybe you can kind of buy into be a mod wanting to do her best prot or even if you know I wish they got a little bit more time to explore that uh but for what they have I think Tera does a good job uh the part performance I do want to praise and I'm

46:22 probably going to do this with like a l Digimon is I do appreciate the vocal Evolution with like all the uh Digimon with all the Digimon Evolutions yeah yeah I do yeah I do like uh the way her voice Deens with like all the divions I think that's a pretty cool touch oh 100% they I think that goes for all of the the actors of the Digimon they do a fantastic job if they stay throughout doing the um whole dig Evolution line yeah so app yeah yeah oh yeah that's a cool Choice H did you have anything else you want to add for these two or did you let to move on oh no I think they're good I just again wish that they got to do more and I actually really really like Tera Sands and a lot

47:08 of stuff I think she's like just criminally underused as an actress mhm um but yeah no I I think the one thing I also really liked about uh her her biomon is that it it had a lot more softness to it and I I think that worked because this boman's a lot softer SLB also unfortunately used as a um it's also sadly unfortunately used as a um McGuffin no she's not a McGuffin she's a um she's just a transportation device in this unfortunately yeah D which you know I think I have to bring this up at

47:53 somebody but I guess we might as well do it here like if there's like there's a lot of aspects of the show that annoyed me but if there's one thing in particular that really grindes my gears H it's uh the way they handle Evolutions because uh because of course you know they gave Ty and Matt a very nice Saka WR like the evolution sequence for the aaban and gon lines because of course he would uh everyone else is just got to get like a ball of light and like boom that's it yeah it's a ball of light in their color and then just oh you're transformed now yeah and uh yeah and it gets exess awkward with like B mod whenever B mod like PS fly it it just looks weird mhm but uh but uh yeah I bet that's uh more Let

48:43 it for those two uh should we get Joe out of the way yes man they [ __ ] did my boy dirty um I like Damon's performance a lot as Joe Damon has an incredibly versatile range and honestly like I think it was always going this was one of the two characters I think was always going to be the hardest for somebody to step into knowing that Michael Lindsay had passed away and and but the thing is though at this point Joe has also now been played by what three other people now uh this is the third third person it was Michael lindsy then Robbie David and

49:29 D David and then there's a fourth one uh if there is a fourth one I do not quite remember who it is yeah there is one for um the redub of the um film oh oh yeah Eli for I think I def got to hear how that sounds but I but yeah I will say this was probably the one that sounded like out of all the guys that's probably the one that definitely tally leads like the AR Performance and I will admit that it is is kind of weird consider against the Damon Mill performance it was the one that actually had to grow on me the most because it sounded so different I think for me I was kind of expecting I kind of used to Joe sounding like extremely high strong like basically all the time and

50:14 David's performance actually started off a little bit more subdued than I was expecting like did like the high strug this definitely does get added on with like time and you definitely hear it more in later episodes for like the introductory episode it was maybe a little bit more subdued than I was expecting and it took some getting used to like the performance was so good I mean it's D Mill I don't think I've ever heard David Mill turn into a bad performance it was just something I kind of need to get used to so it would look a little weird for me it just also sucks that again they they kind of bastardized Joe's character in this Joe kind of Joe is kind of an [ __ ] in the show H yeah yeah uh yeah they took the whole thing about him kind of being obsessed with like doing well on exam so he can you know appease his family and

51:01 all that they they kind of likely in on that a little bit too much and it makes him kind of obnoxious like add to the point where there's just a whole bunch of moments where he just like actively refusing to go along with a group and it feels like it it does feel like a stretch too far I can't I can't see the original J like I doing that it also it also just doesn't help that he's also trying to be the leader and it's like all he does is kind of cause problems and being an [ __ ] and that just that just makes me upset yeah uh yeah I will yeah I will say and it is kind of funny that like for is a ruined character he is probably the out

51:47 of all Cas he is probably the one who actually gets the most character development funny enough they just they just ruined him to get to it yeah yeah he does have his moments where he has to stand up like the episode where where he's where he's travling with Matt s and Sora gets injured so he yeah that episode was really good yeah so he has to stay behind to Fed off a whole bunch of di that are pursuing them so it's his big moment to be PR and like that was a good episode I I really like David's performance there I kind of wish Jo got more episodes like that but uh yeah he's not Tai yeah yeah that's going to be the world this episode here he's not Tai yeah if you're not Tai uh good luck you're not getting much of anything yeah he's not Tai and I will

52:35 say this though like a lot of Joe's I think a lot of Joe rubs me the wrong way because for a guy who's crest's reliability he's not very reliable but then again Crest don't [ __ ] matter in this show until like the last episode apparently not the last episode but it'll get brought up for like a long time it's actually pretty weird mhm and then one of the one like I do think that Joe like Damon does a good job though I think actually I was surprised it was him because I thought he sounded a little bit like Michael l in the beginning and then he got into himself and I'm like okay I can run with this that being said I love Alex SAS as uh Goan oh oh yeah oh yeah uh the just extremely adorable they're they're extremely cute

53:21 and I like how they made it their own while still kind of invoking the original performance because I'll be real I think out of all of the original Digimon voices by far the two who always stuck with me were tenton and gamon yeah they def said it the most distinct yeah they were it it was also their personalities were like the most fun out of the other original Digimon um I think that Alex has that Spirit but makes it her own so well and I also have to compliment Hur Kaku voice cuz I believe it's still her as yakuman oh yeah definitely um I don't I I don't think she does zudomon but she does shees not do zamon though but no I just like how

54:07 easy and funo it is and it's a genuine little treat in this show and I again wish that they got to do more and stuff and show up and I think there are a lot of really like little funny moments with them two like I think there was one it's like climb on I'm super soft and I'm like yes you are and I would hug you in a second dakuan but yeah but D's performance is pretty Sol and I really do like Alex I I think I think the two of them are I think as I think as many problems as this version of Duo has and two of them do at least make a pretty fun Duo and I think they bounce off each other pretty well I think in terms of Duos I think they're second maybe in chemistry to Mimi and palmon but that's a hard

54:55 Mimi and palman are always the best bounce off Partners yeah uh sweet of wish I guess we should talk about me and okay I mean f zeppler had a pretty distinct voice so like it so like no matter what maybe was always going to sound different uh but I think Susie does a pretty good job of paying some paying some over to police Samplers performance while definitely doing her own thing MH many problems that I have with the show I do like dis verion of be me quite a bit like as as she does K off as like a little bit of a spoil rade but you can tell that she does have I mean you can tell that she do definitely have like a pretty strong strong hearted gold and kind of want to look at for everyone in her own way and that comes off it comes off pretty well

55:40 performance I think she does a pretty good job of making a character feel pretty Charming mhm I think the thing I like about her is one I think that Susie's range is up with Damons as being one of the most versatile in anime dubbing right now uh but I'm not used to seeing her play like a young young like kid girl that has a more childish spin to her yes obviously for all of us who remember su's first lead like kimono friends where she's like three different characters that speak in a different distinct way like caban as much as caban looks like a child she's still kind of an adult and I don't think I've ever heard her get to be like this fun and kind of goofy and I really appreciate that and I think that by far she lives up to being

56:29 the best character in the show because Mimi is Mimi is always the best Adventure character I will fight anybody on this oh oh oh absolutely look look there's a lot about this show that I wouldn't recommend but if I were to recommend any of the show I would hly disort you to all the we episodes like pretty much all of them are good yeah I absolutely enoyed the one with her were Lily mon Ander for the first time I thought it was fantastic I wish it was a two-parter just so Mimi could have more character screen time CU I thought it was a fantastic episode that also almost slowly relies on her and Karina's acting back because that Digimon doesn't speak and especially on Susie and Susie does a fantastic job and one of my other favorite moments is when she's talking

57:15 about the avocado burgers and Palm's like what's that and you're just like oh my God Mimi's gonna mim's like where to go get burgers and I'm like I [ __ ] love you child I love you you you you beautiful pink little thing and just her introduction episode where she literally [ __ ] beats the [ __ ] out of TI and Sora ah that was great Mimi for president 2024 H H yeah H yeah I can at least say reflects my values mhm and I also have to compliment Karina a lot because I think their palmon is [ __ ] perfect as oh go ahead sorry as say it's

58:03 definitely interesting because uh as someone who has played a pretty considerable amount of G and impact I can definitely hear like a little bit of the pon voice uh maybe maybe like a little bit screecher to kind of emulate the orm performance a bit more but uh but I but I really do like it um def play sounds pretty Charming while also um all to Def paying home performance and uh I I really like it palon palon just sounds delightful I think the like creaty aspect of it is really up there because palon is like the most Gremlin kind of creature voice out of all of the Digimon um and that little tiny like growl to their voice is perfect and I just love the whole

58:51 like I just love Palm Mon's Little Critter point it's so [ __ ] cute yeah and got to say that probably like out of all the disy bond like when it comes to disy bond Evolution line there's probably like the most contrast in terms of how like all this Evolution sound so it's a really good display of cor is Rage like to goes from a plant to a cactus to a fairy yeah like toab mod sounds very different from pal mod and Lily mod sounds completely different from both of them yeah Karina gets to show off their range in the show and I think by far more than anybody I think they do because they're playing the most creaty thing is the most humanoid thing and they're playing two different characters and I think overall they hit a really nice balance between all three of them and I if you had not heard of

59:40 Karina buter or you've heard like only mix things about their performance in a very popular video game I would definitely suggest clips of this show to watch of their performance not the show um so I I think I think they did a a great job and it's very cute I just wish there was more to say mostly because again after a certain point Mimi and them all get kind of relegated to offscreen for like six or seven episodes and you only get like Snippets of them going back and a lot of that is just Mimi Joe and Sora all responding to Izzy talking about things and info dumping and their responses are just kind of childish bickering or fighting stuff the I will say uh I really do

1:00:26 think it's funny the moment between and I got to compliment their comedic acting the moment between Damon and uh suie where they're talking about the AIS system and Joe's trying to act all smart and mim's just like yeah and Sora is just there because Sora doesn't get to have fun yeah uh uh yeah uh yeah that's kind of f they they don't get a little bit more to I do there but I will at least say after he like after for a certain point they showed the EV the ti it would be a good idea to have more oneoff episodes and they do get like a little bit more to do then but it definitely takes a while mhm but uh anyway before we wrap things up here we definitely need to talk about uh Izzy here because and while he isn't quite as important as Ty or bat uh he is

1:01:15 probably the third in terms of importance which you know what that's at least a little bit of a n upgrade for theal I'm glad he he gets to do more oh yeah and I I think the best thing about this is how much Annie gets a really good Izzy voice I don't think I've actually heard Annie play a little boy oh oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah I like it a lot like like I definitely heard a few things that and has been and I've enjoyed a lot those things but like but yeah this is definitely pretty distinct I like it quite a bit it's a pretty like you definitely hear a bit of home to what Moto Marshall was doing in her original performance but it's so sad but it's so Prett distrct from hers while definitely being its own thing and it's really pointful

1:02:01 mhm I I I I do ni quite a bit like honestly if I were being frank I think it's probably my favorite per performance in the dub oh wow really yeah I think and does a really good job of making iszy come off as you know kind of a bit of a humble awkward kid who's uh like clearly well meaning but also isn't very used to doing with others outside of like you know on a computer and I think that D I think that D does a pretty good job of that like even in is his introduction you can kind of hear a little bit of that awkwardness there when's like introducing himself to time for the first time and I thought that was like a pretty nice little interaction and then I like I then again while there is like a whole ton of character stuff here to work with I did like the episode where like uh where

1:02:48 like his computer was shut down he had to like rely W for a while I thought that episode was pretty fun yeah I thought it was I thought it was cool but I also felt like it was just kind of like a [ __ ] really yeah okay okay I me look there's not a whole lot of character stuff to work for finish show I think what I could get mhm yeah I really did but yeah I really didn't like ads and that an toy a lot uh unfortunately unfortunately like what I I like Christopher swle Seton I will say that I of like the disy perform but it is probably the one that sounds like the least distinct H which is kind of weird

1:03:34 considering how to think the original tenton voice was yeah let's be real I think if you were going to step into tenton you I think you had probably one of the hardest battles to to climb because I believe the original tenton was Jeff nemoy correct yeah Jeff Nemo's tenton is kind of iconic it is it is a recognizable performance from anyone like if you heard it You' be like that is jeffie MOA stimon it was funny it was comedic it was very it was it was very much a kid show performance but it had the Nuance there because there were genuinely great tenton and Izzy episodes in the original and he and Mona Marshall bounced off each other very well and a bunch of the thing was

1:04:20 that tenton also had a lot of Wise Cracks in the OR and was very much the the the Pokedex of the show um I don't think Christopher swindle's performance is bad I just think it's just lacking charm and and that's kind of a general running issue throughout a lot of the performances is that it's just not as Charming H yeah um yeah it's a bit unfortunate I I will say that I I will say I really do like the contrast CH gets have with only like T of Illusions I do think the voice definely get a lot more disck whenever he like ceter mod or Mega ceter Mod which I really

1:05:06 dug but just the base tenton is just kind of okay compared to it and I think they don't they actively try to explain that he has like a consite dialect or something uh uh yeah yeah to which if that was the case it definitely does explain what were doing in the original yeah they out they actively explain that he has an accent compared to everybody else and I just don't think it translated as charmingly over to this one as it did the original Adventure that being said he does have a lot of good funny line reads though that's yeah I think he probably does get to have the most one wiers yeah he's kind of the goofball of the group but but yeah I like I like these

1:05:52 two uh not quite As Much Chemistry as their original incarnations but I think they but I think they do make for a pretty decent Duo all right let's rip off the Band-Aid let's talk about Digimon Jesus and Digimon Peter yep uh yep so uh riding out to running out the cast we've got our final four characters of the evening we've got we've got ta Kia AKA Tai and his partner aaban and yabo Isa AKA mat and his partner Goan Tai Tai is okay okay look he's okay look he's pooie he's just

1:06:37 pooie this is Tai Kamia he can do no wrong say hey look hey look this is Ty like you see Ty every like every time you're watching every time you're watching the CH everyone to be wondering where time yeah I wonder what Ty's Ty goes to the bathroom I wonder what's Ty Ty is doing right now uh yeah I'm sorry I'm not first enough in Simpsons to the entire joke entire joke F I'm sorry it's okay but uh but yeah but yeah Ty is the uh yeah but yep Ty is the hero of this show uh what his family uh gets caught up in like a whole series of in like the whole

1:07:23 series the B that starts off the show uh he run he runs his head in gets sucked into the internet and annoyed the digital world where he meets his buddy aaban who's who's you know uh just kind of here to be the I can't even say hotblood partner because he's not because he's just kind of a simple little guy he's here to sell toys uh yeah you yeah you okay I would say you can't have think mod but they aren't quite as relied on him as like Pokemon as with Pikachu yeah or no he's their Charizard because remember the Pokemon company is now also reliant on Charizard oh yeah oh yeah okay okay I

1:08:10 know yeah g is basically just Charizard and and and then we like and then Matt is like and then mat is a mysterious kid that Ty runs into while he's running around internet that's who seems to have gotten his disy M before he did and then later when Tai and the when TI the ganger for the digital world they run into him again and he joins the group and uh and as in the original his whole his whole thing is that he's trying to do his best to look out for his little brother TK and that's uh pretty much true here but there kind of isn't much else going on with him otherwise uh kind of a kind of unfortunate considering I did kind of

1:08:55 like Matt's character AR a lot in the original series MH and then his buddy goon is just kind of you know he he's a pretty chill guy who's just kind of there to bounce off of mats kind of you know uh Brash kind of uh you know emo guy attitude so uh going into who plays these actors for Tai we've got Zeno Robinson for aabad we've got Ben dis for for Matt we've got AJ beckles and for Goot we got Dave B Mitchell Zen Robinson has play his characters as body TOs and the case Body TOs uendo and Z 100 bucket list of the dead and go win Pokemon

1:09:41 Journeys H Joseph joar I mean just ahead this kid has holy [ __ ] that would be a completely different series if Joseph Joe star was his oh my Christ yeah so this is my his characters is Joseph Jo josear adventure and Shout modim fusion and his most imaculate performance cute mod Digimon Fusion I feel like I feel like before we move on I should actually mention a little bit I actually mention a little bit of an interesting as to why he probably cast here as uh because you see going into like the Japanese version of Digimon aimon is played by an actress by the

1:10:28 name of I believe it is shaki sakono and uh so and they' and she's been the voice Von since the original series and it's also forc a couple of other partner Digimon in other series and specifically she also played Shoutmon in Digimon Fusion or gon cross Wars if youve prefer the original title so uh that so uh so as far as the dub goes uh time for the dub person with did mod fusion uh shot mod was played by Ben disin so as a little bit of a so as a little bit of a nod uh they cast B disc here aaban to kind of contast with chak Sakamoto that was actually something he mentioned on Twitter for why he got casted so you

1:11:14 know what that that's kind of the a little odd mhm yeah and then uh and then continuing uh AJ beckos has played such characters as taka M haki toky Avengers Joker McDonald CH King and hop in Pokemon Journeys and then Dave B Mitchell his play his characters is cyborg 004 and 009 re cyborg Boro and Boro and Roden barcz and mobile Su gunam unicorn all right let's talk about anime Peter first because we obviously have to save time for last otherwise we will be smited by toy themselves of course oh yeah oh yeah yeah I was say it

1:12:02 was kind of funny um see it was kind of funny getting announcement that uh that AJ got cast his mat because for why I actually suspected it for a long time because I remember when AJ like first hit it big and he was like liing off uh and L got some of the roles he got and there was like this one role that for like at least a good year or two he kep alluding to but kept saying he couldn't announce and the more time when Ono was like oh God it's got to be something dis related and I we all thought he was going to be Izzy yeah yeah I kept thinking of who who was going to play I was going to be like okay it has to be other matter izy I thought it was going to be iie izy not eie but I I like I like his mat I like AJ's Matt I think AJ's a very talented actor and I think that he gets

1:12:48 a lot of the original map Performance down and let's be real nobody will be the worst mat to ever met except for the first try movie and I'm not going to say anything more than that oh oh yep yep yep AB absolutely definitely definitely a much better mat than that yeah like it's not hard to be a better Matt than that uh this one really felt like he knew the spirit of the character and unfortunately the writers of the show did not uh Matt literally exists to just brood and be Emo and like have to learn the value of friendship and like not and that like sharing the bird end of his heart or like is not healthy for him except for it's literally done in like 5sec snaps and I think the actual moment that really pissed me off in this show more than the the second moment that

1:13:35 pissed me off in this show like in terms of how angry I got and like was like oh just go [ __ ] yourself show is that when he finally joins up with the team is this episode where they he he knows the rest of the team for about five seconds before running off to be a martyr and that episode consists of

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