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0:00 You've got me thinking about food as an instruction I'm giving my body because if I eat this food, it's going to have this impact on my hormones which is going to have this impact on my body. So, if we view food as an instruction to the body, we talked a little bit about the timings of eating and a little bit about fasting. I want to get into that a little bit more, but breakfast, I read that you didn't think most people need breakfast. Yeah, the the whole idea that you need to eat as soon as you get up is just false. So there's this whole um thing about breakfast. Now you will always break your fast. Think about the actual word, right? Break fast. It's the meal that breaks your fast. Which tells you that in the English language, we accept that your body should have a fasting
0:45 period every day. Why? There's a period of time that you're supposed to feed. You eat, insulin goes up, you store calories. Then there's supposed to be a period of time that you fast. That's after dinner until the next day's meal, which is breakfast. Right? So, say you stop eating at 6 PM, you eat at 8 a.m. That's a 14-hour period where your body is not eating, it's fasting, and therefore it's going to use calories, right? But the word breakfast tells us that that's actually a normal pattern, this normal cyclical pattern. You feed, then you fast, right? If you eat all the time, your body's just going to store energy and never have a period to burn energy. So, okay, well, what's going to happen? You're going to gain weight. I
1:31 read as well that breakfast eaters averaged 539 extra calories per day compared to those that skipped breakfast. And that's a finding that's consistent with other trials. That was on page 132 of the obesity code. Yeah. So, the more often you eat in general, the more calories you take in. So if you eat three times a day you or six times a day then you know if you eat three times a day compared to two times a day for example you'll in general eat less because it's harder to eat that you know big meal. So say you eat once a day versus three times a day. If you eat once a day it's not always easy to eat three meals worth of calories all in one sitting because you get full. Do you fast? Oh I do that
2:16 regularly. Yeah. And what does your fast look like? because I've heard of all these different types of fasting. 36 hours, 72 hours. Oh, yeah. 14 hours. Yeah. There's no rules for fasting. You could do, you know, it could be 16 hours. So 14 hours, remember, is sort of a baseline. 12 to 14 hours, right? That just means you're not eating after dinner. That's it. Um, and so if you want to lose weight, that's probably not strong enough to make you lose weight because 12 to 14 hours is sort of just this baseline that people had in the 70s. Um, so you can go to 16 hours, for example, and you shrink that by either eating breakfast a little later or eating dinner a little earlier, but you can do more than that. You can do, say, a 24-hour fast. You could eat two meals a day, say eat between 12 and 6. That's a 6-hour eating window. Or you could eat
3:02 once a day, which is like a 24-hour fast. Or you could even go multiple days uh without eating because again, your body is smart. Like our your body knows what to do. If you have all those calories sitting on your body, right? 100,000 calories sitting in body fat and you don't eat for 3 days. Well, you need 6,000 calories. Well, you have 100,000 200,000. So, what's the problem? Take it out of your body fat. Let your body eat your body fat. That's what fasting is doing for you. And it's totally natural because that's what it's there for. That body fat is not there for looks. is there for you as a source as a store of calories. So fasting just lets you use that. There's nothing wrong with it. People talk about hunger for example,
3:49 but again hunger is very interesting because people think it's the amount of time that you haven't eaten, but it's not true. It's actually hormonally mediated. So if you think about hunger, I actually found this really fascinating. So, if you look at studies of when people are the most hungry and the least hungry, on average, people are the most hungry at 8:00 p.m. and the least hungry at 8:00 a.m. So, in the morning time, you are actually the least hungry that you will be all day. That's just an average. And at 8 8:00 p.m. in the evening time, you are the most hungry. So, 8:00 a.m. is the period of time that you've gone the longest without food. So, why are you the least hungry? It's because it's hormonally mediated. When you wake up at 5:00 a.m.,
4:36 your body actually has this surge of hormones, growth hormone, cortisol, and uh sympathetic tone, which is already getting you prepared for the day. It's starting to release some of the stored glucose from your body fat, from your sugar stores at 5:00 a.m. So, your body has already prepared you for the day ahead without you even doing anything. That's why people in general are not hungry at 8:00 a.m. I've got to talk to you about these um these new injections people are getting to lose weight. Yeah. And the role that they must be playing in our hormone balances. What are those bloody things called? The um GLP ones. GLP ones. There's another name for it, isn't there? Yeah. Uh well, it's there's the drug name which is uh is the American name. And these are all
5:22 in a class called GLP1s. And essentially, again, very interesting because they essentially really reduce the appetite, which goes to show you that and people lose weight, like a lot of weight, and they keep it off. So, very smart people that are using them. Like a billionaire friend of mine that's very big in a certain industry uses a Zenic. I know Elon Musk came out and said, it a Zenic as well. Um, I don't I'm not I I I don't have any problem with the Ompic because again, if you think about it, what it's telling you the the lesson it's teaching you about weight loss is that it's not about controlling the calories because the Olympic doesn't burn any calories. It's
6:08 about controlling your hunger. It's about that one level deeper. Why are you taking so many calories? So if you simply reduce the hunger, you're going to naturally eat fewer calories, which is going to cause weight loss. And that's what this does. It really reduces your appetite to very low levels. How it it's it's it's this this hormone called GLP-1, uh, which is a natural sort of hormone. It's it's released mostly in the intestines and the distal intestine and the small intestine. And in response to certain foods, it it goes up, right? So when you eat, the body has a homeostatic mechanism. So again, remember, you know, people think that we're just eating machines. We eat until, you know, we explode sort of thing. But that's not true. When you
6:54 eat, you actually activate the GLP1 along with other hormones. There's multiple hormonal systems. The GLP1 is the one we're interested in. You activate GLP1, which then sets into motion the the the instructions for you to stop eating, right? So the act of eating sort of sets in motion that whole feedback loop to stop. Right? So this is homeostasis which is trying to keep things at a proper level. Does that mean if you eat slower uh you'll be less you'll eat less. There's probably not more time to come. Yeah, probably it's true. Um you know although it's probably mostly true that if you eat really really fast that you don't have enough time for this sort of homeostatic mechanisms to kick in. So you don't have enough time to stop
7:40 eating. Um but the GLP1s then go to the brain. So they do certain things. They help with digestion. So they increase insulin response and then they go to the brain. It crosses um the the the bloodb brain barrier. So the GLP1s gets released by the active eating goes into the brain crosses and is active um in the sort of midbrain area that tells your body to stop eating. What these GLP1s do, of course, is that it's a uh it it gives you the hormone that tells you to stop eating even though you haven't eaten. It's sort of that's that's the way the drug works. So then what people tell you is that, you know, they're just not hungry. And if they're not hungry, then they don't eat. And when they don't eat, of course, insulin falls and you start to burn calories and
8:27 lose weight. But it wasn't about controlling the calories. It was about controlling the hunger. That was the important part of it. It's the hormones, right? Every successful drug to gain or lose weight, right, is a hormone. It's a hormone based because that's instructions to the body. Food is energy and food is instructions. You change the instructions and you change the hormone. This whole history of fiber thing has been so interesting to me because in the last six months, so many of the nutritionists I've spoken to have really impressed upon me that we are fiber deficient. And I'm wondering how that happened. Um, well, I think it was part of the processing uh thing. So, taking out fiber is a great way to make foods
9:13 more appealing, if you will. Um, so what happens is that if you take um flour for example and you have a lot of fiber in it, then the digestion is slowed. So, what you get is a slower rise. So, you take flour and you put a lot of fiber in it. Well, instead of uh having this huge spike in insulin, which you're going to get, it's a much slower spike in insulin. When you have the huge spike in insulin, it basically overloads your system and it makes you feel, you know, gives you this big hit. Sort of like if you have like cocaine for example, you know, it's it's turned into a very fine powder, then you snort it, so you get this massive sort of spike. Same thing with um you know, carbohydrates. If you
10:00 don't have any uh fiber, you you pull all the fiber out by processing. You get this massive sort of unnatural spike and your body says, "Oh, that's great. It tastes great. I really love it." And you get people who are sort of addicted to it because that big spike is going then going to release dopamine. And dopamine is a pleasure hormone. So you eat, you know, cookies or whatever highly processed foods, you get this sort of pleasurable response and that makes you crave it. If you have a lot of fiber, it acts almost sort of like an antidote to that carbohydrate because you're slowing down that release. What foods are high in fiber? Well, mostly unprocessed foods. So the the things like beans and if you're having if you're eating uh whole grains
10:46 for example compared to others then it's going to have a reduction in the speed of absorption. So it's again not about the calories necessarily or even necessarily about the carbohydrates because you're still eating the same amount of carbohydrate but you're slowing down the speed at which is absorbed which is going to change the instructions that you give your body. If you have a massive spike in glucose, you get this massive dopamine surge, right? And your body's like, "Yo, love it." Then the next time you're like, "Okay, give me that refined carbohydrate." What about protein? Because we we tend to think of protein as something that, you know, is super great for weight loss. Yeah, protein is probably uh sort of inter it's not bad. I mean the main
11:32 thing is cutting down the carbohydrates but you know in the obesity code I really talk about cutting the processing down because uh proteins usually don't come as pure protein right in nature you never find like you know how you have like whey powder protein or whatever you get the only way you can do that is by processing the heck out of food to get some kind of pure protein. It doesn't exist in nature. Like it almost doesn't exist in nature. Maybe there's a few examples, but when you eat meat, you think, okay, there's a lot of protein, but that's actually a lot of fat in there, too, right? Um, if you eat anything else that has protein, it's it's rarely uh all protein. You know, very lean meats like chicken breast and stuff are going to be higher in protein,
12:18 but there's still a lot of other stuff in there. And it's very rare that somebody will eat just all pure 100% protein. it tends to be hard to eat. Like the fat brings a lot of flavor and so on. So, it's a bit of an unnatural way to eat. Sure, if you if you're to eat a lot of protein, it does spike insulin. So, it does have some effect to gain weight, but it's actually a very um inefficient uh macronutrient. That is your there's three macronutrients. There's carbohydrates, there's um fat, and there's protein. Your body stores energy or calories in two ways. There's carbo glucose which is carbohydrate and it stores it as body fat which is fat. Right? It doesn't protein is not a way for the body to store energy. So when you're eating a lot of protein it's very
13:04 difficult for it to turn it into a storage mechanism like you know so you eat glucose and you eat fat you can store glucose and you can store fat but you you eat protein but you don't really store it as a source of energy. So if all foods then increase our insulin levels, I guess the best solution is to fast. Uh fasting is certainly one way, but just changing the foods to uh other ones because if you look at the insulin uh release in processed foods versus unprocessed foods, there's a huge difference. So if you eat sort of uh highly refined foods like white bread for example then you're going to have a very different response in insulin compared to sort of um a whole a whole
13:51 food. So unprocessed foods in general your body knows how to handle like we've been eating them for thousands of years. Um but certainly anytime you eat your insulin is going to go up. You're giving your body instructions to store energy. So, the solution is to eat less often. What if you do a juice fast? Juice fast, of course, is not a real fast because you're you're taking a lot of sugars. What do you think of juice fasting? Um, I'm generally I I I think it's less effective than regular fasting and it really depends on how much juice you take. If you take a lot of juice, you could easily get, you know, thousands of calories plus a lot of sugar. If you do it, you know, cucumber juice and stuff that's very low in sugar and kale juice, then it could be very, very healthy for you because there's vitamins and stuff there. So, it all depends on how it's
14:37 done. However, the um the fasting is a way for you to sort of clean out the body. So, you can clean out the glucose. If you have excess body fat, you're you're going to use it, right? So, again, way to clean it out. And then there's this whole process called autophagy, which is just fascinating. And autophagy is this um so it's been very topical because in 2016 one of the key researchers was given the Nobel Prize in medicine. So it's it's a very important process that's been relatively recently discovered. What they discovered is that when you don't eat protein particularly but when you fast your body activates this thing called autophagy and it breaks down some of the subcellular organs which sounds really bad. Subcellular or organs. Yeah. So uh you know these are sort of like the
15:24 organs within the cell. So it's not like the liver but there's something called organels within a cell and some of that is broken down. So basically these proteins and so on within the cell your body gets rid of that and you think oh well that sounds really bad but it's not. It turns out that it's very very good for you because it's an opportunity for your body to get rid of all this old protein, old junky protein. And at the same time, remember that you're fasting, your growth hormone levels are shooting up through the roof. So like a, you know, two, three day fast, your growth hormone levels might go up five times. So you're getting rid of all the old stuff and then when you eat again, you're actually got growth hormone to produce new proteins. So in essence,
16:09 you're getting rid of the old, you're bringing in the new. It's basically the process of rejuvenation. Could this be a very important way to get rid of some of the chronic illnesses of aging? And there's lots of data uh you know talking about uh you know Alzheimer's disease. There's talk people talking about cancers. There's people talking about just general aging. You know Dr. Chris Palmer talking about mental disorders. We're all talking about insulin and overeating and diet as a really important component of not just diabetes and weight but all of these diseases, mental illnesses, uh you know chronic uh illnesses like Alzheimer's disease, neurologic illnesses, and there's all this data that suggests that autophagy
16:55 and fasting as a way to activate autophagy could be actually extremely beneficial for you, which is fine when we used to do it. And and you know what's so interesting is that people seem to have already known about it. Like you see it in almost every major religion. There's periods of fasting, right? It's like why did they do that? Because it was good for them. through trial and error, whatever, they realize that, hey, periodically abstaining from food makes us stronger. If you love the Diver CEO brand and you watch this channel, please do me a huge favor. Become part of the 15% of the viewers on this channel that have hit the subscribe
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