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0:00 okay let's let's play a fun little game um I Massacre your entire family in front of you um do you still think people are good [Music] people it's Digimon time so let's get a dig on with the digim man on the digi platform welcome to the three takes of stupidity with me Alex Clinton Chan monk hello and James Robbins hi let's get Digi with welcome back Boys episode two of the evolution or Evolution series I can never decide how to pronounce it uh one's probably UK one's American who knows uh how have you been how you been doing watched anything good CH we'll
0:46 start with you yeah I've been all right uh it's been a while since we've recorded um watched a lot catching up on things uh recently watched a Disney Plus show called Rivals with David Tenant and Aiden Turner based on a book by JY Cooper which was really good me and my partner watched that and then also on more recent we went to go see Gladiator 2 which I'll be honest was not the best I had high hopes and they were not met not as good as the first one or just generally nowhere near as good as the first one It generally not good yeah just generally not good like there was a bit in the film where you watch the effects and you're like this film has come out 24 years after the original and the effects are awful and I was just straight out the film after that I I enjoy going to the cinema more than
1:31 going to see that film did you go up to the spotty kid at the counter and be like I want a refund that was terrible spotty kid at the counter where are we mid 1980s America it's always spotty kids at the counter always but it's cuz they're standing over butter all day in in the USA we don't we don't have buttered popcorn so you know less grease I mean I'm regularly standing over butter I don't know what you guys are doing but my everyday life look at your SK moisturized today I did really well so clear standing over [Laughter] butter what about you guys you watch anything no I have had a lot of free time so I've been uh trolling through Netflix uh watching many different movies more most recent one was uh hidden figures which
2:18 just come on to Netflix good film very yeah it's very good it's but I love films like I love films like that like it's like similar to the HP where it's just based in like Deep South America 60s 50s you know it's a bit it's a it's a turbulent time I think we could call it I think you know there's a lot of disagreements going on there's a lot of people you know just they're just not getting on uh and uh yeah it's it's I'm only about halfway through that one currently but uh I also watched the the green book which is of a very similar um genre style Yeah so basically I'm just watching a lot of um things to straighten up my moral compass I'd say you need
3:04 it that felt very tense and I'm glad James is diffused it with a nice little joke there God knows what the listeners are GNA feel when they when they listen to that minute of you Alex I hope that they will also go and watch those films and you know they'll come out of it going yeah that was that was pretty bad yeah yeah people generally didn't get on then but the film was good the film was uh the green book was fantastic and from what I've seen so far of hidden Figures it's it's really really good um there's a lot of yeah a lot of moral questions to be answered and the answers are coming in a sequel and real life from you where where are those answers coming from I don't think there will be I hope there isn't going to be a sequel um I hope the current political state of America holds and yeah we we don't go back to that but you hope it holds well
3:51 with Trump coming in who knows yeah holds democracy anything can happen oh god oh okay fine I thought you me you were Trump to say no you w Dem y to last yeah yeah Christ yes five minutes five minutes before G to the work rights I I have uh I've wished away from that I've watched a few things been traveling so have watched a lot of things since the last record but most notably recently watched only murders in the building season 4 yeah me and my yeah me and Charlotte just finished that as well actually yes we we really enjoyed it I think it's better than season 3 uh season 3 I felt didn't hit as hard as season one or two
4:36 and the character that died was not so close to the main cast felt a bit distant to the main cast whereas season 4 brings it back around with saz's death who was the stunt double of Steve Martin's character yeah I felt like during the season you could really feel like the emotional connection definitely and it really hit hard I think it might be the first time that made me cry I think was it was it the bit of the end of the last episode where they're talking where he's talking to her but like talking to himself yeah even though they framed it in a really good way like they kept the humor of the show uh the humor the show has overall but it still hit hard obviously the show's very grounded in reality so something metaphysical like that is uh a
5:22 bit out there for it so I like that they grounded the emotional side of it with the sho's own brand of humor I've also watched two animes the first one is came out a couple years ago you remember the game cyber Punk that came out yeah that was came out about a year before it should have done um because it wasn't finished the game but anyway there was a anime uh uh based upon it called cyber Punk Edge Runners that came out on Netflix and it is exceptional it is tragic but exceptional uh the animation is incredible it feels very like a throwback almost to 2000 and '90s Anime especially considering it's all like cyborg people and such feels almost like an old school Mech anime and parts
6:08 where they were all quite politically charged the a lot of old school Mech animes and I think this kind of carries that forward and then on a more silly one Dandan which is a Manger I've been reading for a while we still don't know in the story it's called Dan you're right there Alex just a B in my brain when [Laughter] d That's the sequel all lined up but it's goofy it's definitely not one for non-anime Watchers to start with I think might be taken out by how goofy it is watch a couple and and you like them it's it's very very much worth it can I just ask how is it political which
6:54 one the Cyber Punk all of them all of them how how do they how do they vary on political Spectrum like do they draw them a bit more right wing or they only have a right wing on their and the others have a left it's it's it's you know it's really subtle really subtle yeah go from last time I spoke out I just watched the first episode of Fallout and I finished the season since then yeah I actually really enjoyed it like there's still a lot like thinking about there's still a lot where I was just like I still have real no idea what's going on and it sort of does resolve in the last episode but it gives you that shot at the end of I think it's Las Vegas of like the game Fallout Vegas what's it called New Vegas New Vegas sorry I think I've never played the games you should definitely do that for
7:39 one of our you know so you can talk about it for there another episode yeah I could and yeah I'm I'm excited for the next season comes out I I really enjoyed the show I think I think it keeps that sort of mystery going that you want to find out and it gives you little hints along the way just want to know more more and more so yeah I thought it was a really good series from someone who's not played the games can I just check did you you haven't played the games but just generally as a TV show bit um did you not get really annoyed at the main character I kept getting so annoyed I know it's not a beg real survival thing but you just kept doing stupid things all the time yeah but like she was not taking advantage from yeah but it's appropriate for someone like that isn't it because it's supposed to show that she's kind of an idiot and doesn't have any real world experience yeah no no because she's Tau
8:27 she's taught in the vault that it's Danger outside don't do anything don't don't go outside firstly and if you do go outside be very very careful about what you do she is not careful from from day one she's not careful she's not even careful in her own Vault she's going around places people start getting murdered she's like she fights back she fights back but I it's important to note that she was brought up in the vault a very insul Society knows nothing else doesn't even can't even comprehend what is going on outside and can't comprehend that people will act in a certain way and the first time she's shown that is from the Raiders that break in in the first episode yeah and trick them all but that is such a foreign concept to her and then leaving the Vault she still has
9:13 that naivity of people being decent being acting a certain way that's the social contract as it were yeah okay but they don't and she can't understand and comprehend it so I don't disagree with you at a times she's doing very silly things but I think it's appropriate given where she's come from and what they tell you about her okay let's let's play a funny little game um I Massacre your entire family in front of you um do you still think people are good [Laughter] people okay all right should we get should we get into this week what we're actually supposed to be talking about talk about let's get Digi atam
10:04 okay so James can you please tell us why you've chosen this to talk about this week Digimon dig Evolution Evolution there's more evolution in this than probably any of the films we talking about if we're talking about individual moments of evolution for sure it's a childhood classic there's a lot of people that love this franchise digimon's been around since the I think '90s it started off as a boys answer to tamama got his little little like digital pet game and in that we know what tamagi is and they could evolve in that game everyone's had a Tamagotchi in their time and I think a lot of are you saying the girls can't watch Digimon of course they can there's some good female characters in Digiman which we'll get on to why because they're not really in the film The Boys can't play with Tamagotchi
10:51 I had like three Tamagotchi why did you keep killing them is that why you had three have you mased your whole family God I'm not a punching bag we've come a long way since then since when we were children and you know boys play with Power Rangers and girls with Barbies what dead silence yeah Digimon I I loved it as a kid I watched I think I was first introduced to it like many people in the west by the Digimon Adventure anime on Fox kids uh which was they had a series of serializations of Japanese shows where they massacred the dub uh to make him more kid-friendly they were normally quite Dark shows Digimon is quite dark
11:37 in comparison to say way darker than Pokemon uh they had Yu-Gi-Oh at the time and and a Yu-Gi-Oh loving Yu-Gi-Oh yeah okay try do try you can I've gone back and watched Digimon like first couple episodes they're watchable try and go watch a Yu-Gi-Oh episode it is next to Impossible Is So abysmal just just a side note I think when I was a kid I had Yu-Gi-Oh parties yu- what you what did you do at a Yu-Gi-Oh Party play Yu-Gi-Oh with all our different decks it was great I had a one of my one of my I went round to matate a couple this must been a couple months ago now we we just played football and he was like I you want to come around and chill like yeah he was like can I show you what I've bought recently I was like yeah of course and he bought out like 150 worth of Yu-Gi-Oh
12:25 cards he's 29 and I'm like that's very cool mate you do you do you you do you if if that's what you spend your money on that that's fine by me like good for you I cannot remember a single thing about the things you're showing me right now because it was 20 years ago but I'm happy for you that's great treat why when I feel like when you get older there's a time when you're a teenager it's like oh kids stuff but then you get older you're like actually these were great and I'm going to continue to love these things yeah I agree and if you have the money to spend on it great I just yeah exactly and Charlie you hit on to the point of why I picked this film and it is that Nostalgia to look back at something that was huge then still huge
13:11 now but hold a place dear dear to me and you say you found you held Yu-Gi-Oh dear to you and that's the reason why not as dear to me anymore Pokemon all the way hey Pokemon's amazing but we'll get on to why I don't believe you can compare the two anyway the original the original question was can you explain what Digimon means Digimon stands for Digital Monsters thank you is that all you wanted you've watched you watched an hour and a half film all you wanted to know that's all I wanted was what was so many more questions yeah yeah I've got more questions that was I just had one question there I got taken on a journey do the funny thing about this film the weirdest thing about this film when you're watching it like the first I
13:57 think it's 10 minutes of it is just some weird ass bloody sketch before you get into the actual film and the one thing I want to say about it is why is she called Angelica Anaconda Angela Anaconda thank you Angela Anaconda why why I'm not goingon to lie it's sounds like a porn star in a children's show I didn't watch that when rewatching that short is a part of the official runtime of the movie um because prior to Digimon time slot the the TV show on Fox kids had Angela Anaconda before it and it also got wait that was another TV show yeah so that was a different TV show and it also got a lot of views uh with Disney one it was quite popular I kind of
14:43 remember Angela anonda as a kid and I hated it it freaked me out the art style is creepy as hell so the Digimon movie focuses on characters from the Digimon Adventure TV show as a part of that TV show Cannon the internet becomes a battlefield for the digi jeston and their Digimon companions as they embark on their greatest Adventure yet a powerful new Digimon hatches and begins to consume data at an exponential rate this internet Digimon rapidly dig evolves to its mega form diaboromon taking over worldwide Communications in the process with time running out only the efforts of the worldwide Network of Kids plus a new Mega hero Digimon named omnimon stand in the way of global disaster the Digimon the movie is available for free on YouTube not from official sources but
15:30 for some reason the whoever licensed it I think it was Fox and I guess now Disney aren't bothered that it's on there for free you can't find it on Netflix Etc uh weirdly I'm not surprised at that uh you should be surprised and I think you do need to tone down your distaste for something that is a beloved huge franchise you know you need to change your expectations a little CH so I'm just going to go out there and say there is a lot of Digi and mon in every word that is in this film like every it it feels like every other word either starts with Digi or ends in one when I'm watching it prodigious prod your
16:16 dick even the theme tune which James will give us five seconds no more than five because we're licensed uh a snippet of the theme tune yeah Digimon I was hoping he was going to go for the I was hoping he was GNA go for the digal shut up no oh you went six seconds when I did hear that theme I was like it's a pretty cool theme and did I as much as a Pokemon fan as I am I do think the digi rap is better than the Poke rap give us a version of both oh jeez no don't do the Dig don't do the digim one VI the P 5
17:01 seconds it's available for free on YouTube I think we're fine just actually talking about the film now like I sat down and watched this film for an hour and a half and watching it before doing like any real research in the film it all it does is it feels like three very unrelated episodes of TV stitched together which when you research it that is that all it is it's three episodes from three longer movies like actual Japanese like not even longer movies they are 20 to 30 40 minute original video animations is tends to be what they're called and they were actually released in cinemas but F Fox were like we'll Stitch these together because no one's going to go and watch a film for 20 minutes in the cinema in the west because it's just not
17:48 normal anywhere so they went through a mental production of amalgamating these three shorts together that actually have no bearing on each other uh and we'll start with the first part of the movie which was titled digy one Adventure like the TV show funny enough that is not a prequel to the show as stated in the English version it is not canon to the main digit one Adventure TV show it fits there's no problem with it it does fit but I did laugh at the line where they're like this coron or this aruman is a different one from the one we become friends with and I'm just as someone who knows the show like that's just that's a little
18:33 forced I came it with with nothing so when they were saying all these things of we're not going to become friends with this one I was very confused um I was also confused by the whole birthing from the internet thing yeah it's so weird it makes no sense I also get the feeling that people bang these animals the the internet all right let's rewind a bit so the first part just was fortunately for us with our really efficient podcasting is split into the three films we mentioned with dig one Adventure being the first and that follows Tai and Ki Tai is the lead uh character the leader of the group of Digi destined as they're
19:20 called I wanted to say it Go Go Char get your Digi in Ty and Cari his sister's first encounter with Digimon at their their apartment in Tokyo but this whole first part right like it all it does it just feels like exposition of just explaining what a a digimon is which yeah but I found that very helpful I mean yeah to me and you who've never seen anything of it before is great but when you like come to watch a film like I don't really remember watching the Pokemon film in I mean this would have been 20 years ago but like you sort of have to these films sort of don't have to cater to the unknown and the the the kids that don't know anything they cater to more towards the people who do know what they're about to watch well I would say that Pokemon is fairly self-explanatory in that there
20:05 are these things that just roam the world and we catch them we put them in these little balls and then we make them fight each other whereas digon was like uh these things actually exist on the internet they sort of make themselves by the looks of it and they get made also by computer viruses and then we sort of we download them and then bring them into our world they destroy everything and then we put them back rebuild it all and then go back to step one so this is an example of why yeah the film if you're going to watch this film watching a Roundup or some of the original series is probably important because they're not actually internet creatures they're everything digital is the point so not just internet cuz in the film uh so later on that they enter the internet from the digital world and the monsters
20:53 are able to affect Beyond digitally almost anything think electrical just by existing lights flicker your digital clock will go your microwave will go your digital devices will all act up so it's not they're not necessarily internet beings but that in nowadays given the internet is the main part of life whereas back in 2000 when this 1999 when this was released you know you got to think focus more on digital than internet I just did think that when I watched it that it's it's sort of futuristic cuz I was like wow yeah the whole world is now the internet if you lose Internet you are and you have to watch like normal TV or just be without
21:41 your phone and speak to whoever you live with it's very upsetting for a long period of time so that's why the Digimon are even more dangerous Bo games moving on one thing that did catch about this film is I did find myself laughing quite a bit I'll be honest there were a few lines where I was like okay that's quite funny and yeah that's got me like there was one bit there was one bit in the film where Tai that the name of the kid isn't it name of the male kid yeah there's a line about him going to the toilet for the fourth time that night and you're like that's not unusual for him I'm like what the [ __ ] is wrong with him and the other point is that is if he needs to go to the toilet more than four times a night why is he on the top bunk why is he not for Ease on the bottom bunk so he can just roll out of bed and go to the
22:27 toilet as someone as someone who has to go to the toilet a lot as well little I would put myself on the bottom bu knowing I needed the toilet a lot I don't think his little sister who's about two at Ma two three max can climb a ladder but if she's two three at Max they wouldn't be in bunk bags it's a small apartment in Tokyo and their dad's nowhere to be seen I did their mom is and their mom is is very caring but and leaves [ __ ] off and Le just leaves him alone then they're no more than two and what seven it's it's important that the run that we have to bring out the running gag from the mom being a bad cook which is a complete you uh Fox Edition and it is was cracking me up the whole time when
23:13 she like she's cooking stew and then Ty sniffs and he goes oh we're in luck she burnt it it's a start and I was cracking up there were some really good jokes in this there are there are I'll be honest there are some bits that made me really laugh is completely unhinged as well the poop gag with so the Digimon that appears the egg just kind of appears in their house uh for the F for the first part of the movie to these children and then they just befriend a monster which if you're an adult it has to be kids because an adult would never befriend it they'd be like what is this we need to like put this thing in a cage we need to understand first these kids are like now let's go play with it
23:59 yeah what would you two do in that situation as a kid you definitely like I want to play with this thing it's like it's like when you like if you grow up in a household with dogs and you're like you're five and your parents bring back a puppy and you're like I just want to play with the puppy like that's all I want to do is just play with this new thing that's in my house I would be enjoying it right up until the point where it became bigger than me uh which is which is pretty quick in this movie like they're like oh it's so cute oh look it's the oh my God it's huge that's the thing that's never really explained in this first part of the movie is how the hell do they just go from being one Digimon to then Digi dig evolving into another it's never explained of like okay I've I've like I've succeeded at this thing or I've gotten to this level and I now will evolve so this is a I can
24:46 answer sorry James I've forgot this one um it's quite a tricky one Chandler but um it's called copy and paste it's called I will evolve whenever the plot needs me too so I that isn't far wrong so I can explain uh Digi volution a little bit did Digimon have forms they all start as an an egg and before and they dig evolve through certain levels from a baby an in training uh rookie Champion ultimate and mega these are that's the the The American or the the English naming uh whereas in Japan it's baby baby to child adult perfect ultimate the
25:31 ultimate and mega being is confusing and they really should digon company should sort that out cuz they mean two different levels in two different uh languages which is really fantastic anyway the Japanese names infer from the original Tamagotchi like device is that it represents almost an age and a growth simply I think in the games you would feed them battle and over time they would just naturally evolve as if they are getting older and that is kind of noticeable in the TV show and the movie where their personalities do change as they dig evolve and seem more mature however in the original TV show these levels uh are used as character growth so the Digimon dig evolving is kind of
26:16 pushed by character growth within their with their human partner and them growing as emotionally and growing up and it's normally a trigger to some battle or some some outside Force so it's basically as I say just a plot device in a film in the film and it is used as a plot device and yeah for sure it definitely uses a plot device you know a metaphor for the kids growing and then the Digimon respond because of their link to the kids also dig evolving sells toys but isn't yeah Fair okay so now everyone's all caught up on what a digimon does is can be cannot be let's talk about the film uh I will I'll start I really really enjoyed the first episode of the film uh because when I
27:02 was watching it it it brought back childhood memories it made it feel quite warm cuz I remember Digimon being on when I was a kid cuz I would always see it was on and be like oh let's watch something [Laughter] else that's that's how I felt it was yeah it was warm and cuddly I like talking about the film as a whole I I don't think the film works as a whole because again as I've said it's three TV episodes knitted together to make a film so a studio can put something out at the cinema that people will go see and kids will force their parents to go take them C back in the year 2000 and yeah like sat through watching it like there are funny moments and there are lines that make you laugh and lines that make you go that makes absolutely no sense but
27:48 sure but yeah it just does not work as a film there are really good there are really good quips in it there's a lot of funny funny dialogue in there that I really enjoyed that as well like during like as I said during that first episode I used to watch Pokemon as a kid it made it reminded me of that obviously it's the same bracket so it had the same feeling the other thing I will mention though to be fair that I did enjoy was the soundtrack like I made a note of the songs that were used in the film I was like oh my God it's actually really cool like you've got like one week by Bare Naked Ladies Kids In America um funo brother and allar and I was like every time one of those songs came on I was like I actually really enjoy that like fair enough the with the kids in America is a specially recorded cover just for
28:33 this movie as well yeah that's interesting by um I can't remember the band's name had it written down the F I'd say the first movie is Right charie you've mentioned that it's been used for exposition there's a lot of exposition I think the first part of the film when their kids is very much introduction to Digimon if it was your PowerPoint presentation it's introduction to Digimon a digimon's appeared in our house this is who it is this is what it is and look it evolves what's going on but it and it gives you the idea that they can enter the human world from whatever Digital World they are exist in another world they come to us I want to touch on animation style it's really nice that it's very soft art style Thin Line work it allows for a lot of expression it
29:18 allows for good movement and in that first part of the film it's like it's a the first is a Kaiju movie it's a Godzilla V someone movie essentially they end up with a giant dinosaur and then it fights a giant bird a giant parrot essentially but the some of the animation on that and is incredible and the the way Greymon almost looks muscular and all and like kids just looked after this thing and it's terrifying it he looks terrifying the other thing like as you said the name of the what was what was the name of the one you just said gron Greymon gron Greymon like why did they all have to be called something mon it makes it really hard to follow cuz you're cuz they'll say something you're like Mon and you're
30:05 like okay that one like one it's like is that the same one I have no idea what's like it's it's actually really hard to follow like I'm sure if you're a kid and you really love this stuff like same with Pokemon like I'm sure when I was a kid and I would say to my parents uh Pikachu does this and then Eevee does that and you're like they're the same thing like no they're not how dare you say that they that's blasphemy I'm sure I'm doing that about digim one now but coming into this from absolutely nothing sometimes it's really hard to follow who the hell is who in the Digimon I'm making it sound silly that was Greymon V pamon not patamon paraton you're even laughing you're laughing and smiling as you say those names you're laughing and smiling which which means you know it's silly as well but they they start off so I can name you that whole it was botamon to coron to aamon to wait hang onang
30:51 it's bottom on as as in bottom no bot bot all right okay it there's stupid like some are in Japanese some are translated to English some are some aren't like it's the the naming the naming conventions of Digimon is a mess if anything that's all I wanted from you James the is the only consistent bit who's the first Digimon we see the one that's the egg uh bottom on the little black furry with yellow eyes is that the same does it have the same name throughout it's its whole naming thing think it evolves to it evolves into Corum it just keeps trying to kiss their faces and wrapping its ears around their head and I'm like what is this bit yeah yeah I mean I just wrote why is it being a
31:38 [Laughter] menace I also really enjoyed I really enjoyed how uh K refused to talk to her brother but loved talking to the Digimon she would only whistle at her brother but then actually speak words to the digim mod I like when they introduce themselves to it and it just back really quickly she's like I'm Ki KI he's ti ti to enunciate and try and get it to understand the pronunciations in the digal hi curry curry TI Tai that made the chuckle chat that was cute that was is there a chuckle chat for this film there is there is a chuckle chat it should be bigger because it should be bigger if there's anything the Saving Grace of this movie is it's absolutely unhinged and hilarious I wouldn't say hilarious I
32:23 would say there are funny moments I was crying at some of the little quips and stuff there are a few in the in the second part of the movie there is like a the whole bit with Tai's sort of girlfriend like being annoyed at him and like refusing to pick up the phone and like the email that he sent her like love instead of from and like obviously it's all really contrived and you're like like yes you need to there to be some conflict but it was it was quite funny it was all over what was it over it was over like a A hairband or something he bought her a hair pin hair pin and and then he said something and it was along the lines she was like oh so you don't he said something about her always wearing a hat and she like oh so you don't like my hats yeah yeah I've got that written down as well like it
33:09 was the most like she just wanted to be mad at him yeah it felt quite real yeah it it's contrived it felt contrived there were some there were some funny moments I really enjoyed watching like the Windows 98 software really enjoyed watching that on the anime I really I really enjoyed them calling it the information super highway information in I was like that is classic late 90s talking about the internet that is that is what they probably wanted the internet to be I like they were travel they were traveling they were they were they were flying down the the highway to get to their destination there also was one line that was they were talking about like oh it's when it's when Tai goes into the the internet as well and becomes digital and like the
33:57 the narration just goes and for some known for some reason that no one knows he became digital and you're like what makes no sense like you've not you've just gone I need again it's the same thing back to to digivolution where it's just like we just need a plot device there you go you're digit to why who cares No One's Gonna ask they just needed to get him there and they got him there I love it so if you there I love the I love the writer room just being like how did this happen they're like who cares how it happened it's just happened we've just wrote it so happened so it's worth to mention this is where the problem with not seeing the show really affects the both of you because it isn't like at least if you've watched the show you understand it like they they're in the digital world for the majority of the series so they've
34:42 been in there they've been digital they didn't go through a screen they were like on a camping trip and they just appeared they just were like we're still camping where is everyone now this world is really weird um and it's digimon's all like the connection with your partner is what causes these miraculous things to happen it's pretty loose they kind of do what they want with it it's not so specific and yeah that he wanted to get to he wanted to save his partner so that's why he could go in I can get that obviously scientifically there's no there's no in Universe science around it I can get that and I can get behind that it just it as I said before this it's this reason why this film shouldn't be a film it should just be three TV movies
35:27 where it's like okay there's just they're longer form episodes this this makes me just think that we're into normal episodes now because now it is just the kids against evil monster kids must beat Evil monster very simple although it's not all of them it's like two and one of them and one of them just wants to have sex with the other guy's mom yes yes he does all he's doing all he's doing is eating her food to eat her you know what I mean but I also enjoyed during like when they're like the height of the battle the height the battle bit of like like typing away this second part is how Hollywood sees how like the internet works of just people mashing away on a keyboard hoping to get [ __ ] done and it's just like that's not how actual computer science works but okay and one of them just gets food poisoning for all the [ __ ] food and
36:13 has to leave so the so in the Japanese version he doesn't get food poisoning he's drank so much oolong tea and he's addicted to caffeine and he's had so much caffeine that he needs to take he got he's gonna [ __ ] himself which as an avid coffee drinker I go through the same process every morning go through the same process every morning but when you're battling Digimon you have to poo obviously the the opening the opening this part where Izzy um shows up at who's the smart one uh for those that know Digimon know he has the crest of knowledge which you guys that wasn't mentioned in it don't know what that is but uh he shows up and he's like the egg hatched and T is holding an egg and he's like this egg
37:00 what that made the chuckle chart and okay I'm I'm I'm looking slightly down upon the chuckle chart now that was funny um so the part about the cooking the cooking gags and Izzy just loves the cooking of the mom where the mom just like oh I was going to make three bean casserole the friends aren't come here that's fine I've only got two beans anyway that was fun I enjoy that one I enjoy I wrote that one down uh then this is the first time I've used flour to make a cake it's like how are you making a cake otherwise the other B I enjoyed just going on move from the cooking sorry I'm jumping around why is everyone just glued is everyone is glued to their computer watching this like what are they actually you can watch it but like
37:46 yeah people not just doing something else with their lives they're all just GL to it but everything's not nothing's working so that as we said as we said as we said earlier this isn't 2024 where if something goes wrong with your internet you've got nothing else to do no like every it's not internet it's digital so everything's affected so yeah they could read a book but they couldn't like watch television because television was broken the microwave was acting up anything almost anything electronic was broken right they cooker is done they couldn't use the phone lines and that's another really funny bit when he's trying to call and the the um the operator is saying this number you cannot connect to this number calls again you cannot connect to
38:31 this number calls again you can't connect to this number stop calling me and I cracked up like oh it's not it's a real person that that was little a little twist but everything digital is broken so the only thing people can see is their who has a computer has the computer and kids at that time were that school started to get them people wanted to watch stuff on do stuff on the computer that was the new fun thing like but we saw there were people without computers and it was a barber shop and they were just chatting yeah the older people had no idea what the hell was going on but it was mostly kids and then that's why there all the kids end up freaking knowing what Digimon is also they see a a boy go through a
39:18 screen inside like otherwise you're just like but you don't see that but the other people wouldn't see that they wouldn't see the boy go through the screen they just see the boy on the screen yeah they just be like oh there's a boy they saw the whole fight yeah they they wouldn't see the boy go through the screen that's happening in a different part of time they would just see the boy appear on the screen though wouldn't they they have his window so they'll see him go through it because remember they've got like do you know what do you know what I just realized about this film do you know what I just realized about this film I should have been high to watch it that would have been funny should have been drunk I should have been drunk or some something not I shouldn't have been sober is what I'm saying yeah this look the second part is we've let a virus has taken over so we the fear of computer viruses that time was huge and the virus
40:04 has affected a digital monster so it was playing on the fears of the time as well as here's a cool monster that everyone was crazy about collecting monsters you were collecting Pokemon collecting Beyblades collecting Yu cards collecting football cards collecting every what was that Alex Beyblades were just different level Beyblades did you guys ever used to did you guys ever used to take apart your Beyblades and like try and reput them together in different yeah obviously no no but I think that tells us a lot about you you were you were I was I am one of these people that's just like it works thank God you were like let's find out how it works I was like I'll pull this thing it makes you spin around that's pretty good I'll take
40:51 that did you also like how when he came over they essentially just had an old school land party yes and had to dial up oh dial up I like there was a line about there was a line about a modem and I was like oh my God that's so old it kind of incredible that Digimon can run and fight on those types of network speeds what the one megabit speed I think one megabits is even pushing it probably but yeah so we we we get to the fight of and the the Dior name Dior diaboromon oh come on that's just that's just an accent difference but anyway he just keeps evolving and going to he's like oh my God he's bigger and better now and it's like four seconds later oh my God it's even more it just keeps going and going and then he clones
41:37 himself at some point and they don't know which one's the real one yeah they've got it's not just Tai and Izzy but they've got they've managed after the the dodgy phone call they've got hold of Matt and TK who are at their grandparents in some rural Japanese town and they've gone to a random barber shop to be able to join in the fight and so you've got four Digimon out of eight that could have fought and they can't get hold of any of their F any more friends cuz Joe is taking exam Mimi on holiday in Hawaii and Sora is pissed off at Ty for their love life and him not liking her hat but he does like her hat he just bought her a hair pin cuz you know he's a thoughtful
42:24 boyfriend he just wanted to be sweet but took that is you don't like my hair or my hat and as that's happening they're fighting they Digimon getting defeated left right and Center by this thing and nukes get sent off yeah I saw that I I obviously Pi I hope you saw it it was important no sorry what I meant to say is I've made a note about that and it's just it's good all let's America let's [ __ ] send some nukes I I was a bit like Japanese film yeah made to have a nuke sent from America or somewhat to Japan I was I'm glad this film's made by Japanese people well not the English dubbing though of it the English dubbing would be done by Fox probably wouldn't it like the plot yeah yeah yeah I imagine there was
43:11 one American guy in the room that was really pling up the courage to be like and then then the nukes the the nukes come in and everyone in the room was like the the what he's like yeah nuke them obviously but I've got it written down in my notes that at the end of the fight nothing actually stops the nukes so don't they go off at some point don't don't they actually hit somewhere by defeating de Boron they sto them from detonating but I did write down bit lucky it didn't blow up on impact yeah exactly it landed in a river but it's landed in a river from very high up at very F lands in the center of Tokyo doesn't it yeah the river yeah yeah yeah what happened to the other one CU there were
43:58 two just I think he went off to started solo career it's probably landed at the American kid's house that they keep mentioning but we've never seen at this point yeah they defeat it by like they defeat it by like the power of like of like Community don't they because they're like everyone now keeps sending like stop sending emails and it gets them they stop cloning and then they're like keep s sending emails now don't they send it to send it to De boron's email address how do he get that email address yeah exactly is he's like if I forward them to deor how forward them if I forward them on fair right click forward forward forward forward forward I've got so much
44:45 junk this Digimon needs send it to the one with a cannon in his mouth yeah that one like that was I did like how the fight kept getting broken up by the technology at the time failing so Ty grabbed the screen and he got blue screen of death yeah that was good that was funny haven't seen a blue screen of death in a long time they Haven to re go to a satellite uplink of Internet which he casually has is he casually has but did you notice an issue with him having a satellite uplink and some other characters in the film no the guys they were talking to that were in the rural area did they get a satellite inter Uplink cuz I'm assuming the internet was down for them did everyone around the world have a
45:31 satellite uplink why did it just them that needed to get satellite uplink interet the writers didn't want them to have satellite up plink it's all part of the plan as with everything the writers needed something to happen yeah yeah but then we got that it's so one thing that won't have hit you guys very hard is like obviously the the main characters Ty and Matt end up in the digital world with um mega at the time war gyon and metal gumon don't ask me what it's amazing it's amazing it's amazing how it just rolls off of your tongue so in the last you don't have to think about it it just
46:17 goes it's like when you hear Dutch people speaking and they just like in the last six years about you have dedicated your life to Digimon and pronunciation 20 years on from the series nearly like 15 20 years on they um continued it so they made digim one Adventure 3 and when they're adults and then they made a new one didn't we watch that one um because that's a that's six films chanler you you haven't enjoyed three so far you haven't enjoyed three 20 minutes so you're going to enjoy six over one hour each movies pass feature length pass I will say that at least with those featurelength films we could follow the story rather than having to reset every 20 minutes you need to have still
47:03 watched Digimon Adventure one and Digimon Adventure Z2 which isn't doesn't stand for the second Digimon Adventure it stands for 2002 back to the point it's a huge moment when the W gymon and metal gron formed when I was a kid this was mental but they formed together to create omnimon or in Japanese a megamon a megamon this is where like Voltron comes from as well it's just combined to be one or like the Megazord and Power Rangers I used to love the Megazord and omnimon is like a level above what they thought possible and he's like a [ __ ] Donnie he's got a dinosaur sword and a wolf Cannon like come on of course he's going to win but then he doesn't really win without the help of children's emails yeah and then it
47:51 all gets resolved at the end like they defeat doramon and you know the the email that gets sent that says love Tai get sent finally and then she goes oh do you know what I actually do like him he's not a prick for giving me a hair pin let's go let's go be with him I love that during the whole thing that's going on she's not caued on to there being a big battle going on and she's gone to his house and then left yeah like what are you doing go help them the the fight in the first movie and this one both have very good songs at the end so the first one at going digital which I'm assuming was written for the film and it very felt much like a Smashmouth thing and then kick it up also thought that was a banger when they beat I said earlier as I said earlier this this film
48:38 has a great soundtrack I say film with inverted commas and then the third movie it is so boring by this point it could have ended it it could have ended I agree it after the second one yep and then all the way during the third one I'm like we didn't need this you don't need this I've seen this already it was by this point I do agree I was I it was quite boring at this point third one is just is just the same it's just the second one in America and all I was thinking would have seen this before with all new kids which I know who those kids are but like to introduce three new characters and two aged Up characters on a third Act of a movie is
49:25 diabolical exact this is why this film does not work Dior there was one bit in the third bit that I've gotten written down it's probably the only thing I wanted to talk about the third film is there was an evolution there was an evolution of a digimon at one point and it evolves into what like your typical Gamers imagination of what a very good-look woman would look like in this third film in the third film I was like why has a digimon evolved into just like you know Lara Croft essentially so digy evolve into a lot of things and there is they can evolve into and this is actually a great time to go to the little quiz that I've prepared for you boys we are going to lose so badly on this you're not going to lose because it's not really a
50:11 competition against each other and we both know nothing how can we lose if we both know nothing everyone's a winner baby so in this game I want you to pick I'll I'll give you these lists so you've got the First Column the second column third column and I want you to pick three one from each column to see if it makes a digimon so to start with we have a lion or a bear we have a car or a musly man and a sword or a gun now I want you to pick them and tell me if you think it will make her Li I'm going to go with Lion Man gun I'm going to go with bear man which I think could also be
50:58 another bear depends on your orientation go bear bear or or or on your stages of evolution honestly get in there honestly very accurate for Digimon they become more humanoid generally yeah like the fit the fit gate Loft digim are you talking about the angel are you talking about the big titty angel that evolved from a cat yeah yeah okay so Alex has gone be man I'm going be be man sword so the closest here is you're both you've both got two out of three hey this goes to the a musly lion with a sword who is definitely furry bait called Leomon Leomon is that is
51:46 that a picture of Alice Cooper from from that's [ __ ] AOS Smith guy name Tyler from AR Smith Alice Cooper so here you've got you've got a monkey or a kangaroo Elvis or Steve Cooper metal Forester leester City let oh there's mistakes all around from all of us stud Tyler that was the worst one after we've just worked out what his name is he still do you need to change this game because you don't know what his name is Steve Tyler I'm gonna go the I'm gonna go
52:33 kangaroo Elvis and ice is it yeah I'm going to go monkey uh Steve Cooper and magnesium or whatever that is is that magnesium CH has foil it's metal cha has one right Alexs 2 it was monkey Elvis metal with metal Eamon and he was he was a mean weird like the dub go listen was he mean oh was he mean was he mean to you James M listen to the dub of him in the show oh my God it's just comical it's just a a really bad Elvis impersonation you ain't nothing but a digimon this for round three there's two answers so we've got a dragon or a gun A
53:21 gun or a sword or a train or a gun and there's technically two right answers here I'm going sword I don't care Dragon Sword gun okay to make it interesting I'm G to go gun gun gun Al Alex Alex would be correct with gun gun gun I would have I'd have also expected accepted Dragon gun gun with Gundrum on ridiculous utterly utterly ridiculous this is someone it's someone's made at 3:00 on the in the afternoon dude on a Friday when people are rigging him going we're all going to the pub afterwards don't worry company's buying we're getting the first three pints in very soon and he's gone I need to think of a digimon I know
54:07 kids love guns let's just stick loads of guns on it it's just that's called gun it's called gun Ramon right see you later [Laughter] guys gamon all right I thought this game was over I think there's two more rounds so we a Beatle or a b a laser gun enjoying it but no one can ever listen to this C or a rocket or an aircraft carrier I'm going to go Beatle nuke shuttle be nuke warship oh you are the you went laser gun you would Canon Beam on [ __ ] me you have to eat so many [ __ ]
54:53 Edibles to make this Shi what about if we just had a a big [ __ ] B and we just put guns on it no no what about cannons yeah a big cannon B the [ __ ] to wrote this back to the third part of the movie there was a little rabbit that's actually a dog called terium on that transforms into a bigger version of himself with Gatling guns for hands it's so stupid it's such a stupid show it is so stupid what is this so I picked two very Hollywood hearts for you here musle man and Chris Hemsworth or a nice woman in Sydney sede an orc or a samurai a bone club or a a bow and arrow Sweeney orc bone Club
55:38 hel Helmsworth um Helmsworth um uh Samurai uh Bor Arrow CH you're spot on what the [ __ ] why is why is she fit why is she fit oh my God if this isn't giv you the broadest strange place the broadest thing of what Digimon can be and also if this isn't fit enough for social then I don't know what it is you can't put out anime porn we're not having weird little weird little [ __ ] sweaty creeps you watch you watched a children's movie with a an angel in a bikini firing light arrows at people yeah why is that a thing Digimon
56:24 Digimon that was uh you know that wrers room that rers room [ __ ] [Laughter] stinks and it horrible now that we've just cut ourselves off in the middle of talking about the third film let's wrap up the third film so stupidly at the start of the third film you are as we said you're introduced to brand new characters which is just mental and two characters we've seen before that are now grown up in ki and TK there there were little moments where you saw the other three when they were children watching the omnimon DI aboron fight and that is a link and that um does well yeah they link it back they link it back because the kid goes oh yeah I tried to create one and that's
57:09 the one that became the aborm one that's what I got out there but they also did have shots of one of the new characters in the second part movie so there is some rough cross link there because technically the first film as I said wasn't Canon but the first and second movies in this they actually are Canon to the story of the show so they they probably transition a little better maybe but it's still rough do you do you think that's why they included the third one to make it sort of not like worth it cuz you you've had to sit through the first one so you're just getting an intro into it the second one has brought you into the actual story of Digimon and all the sweaty nerds um and now you have to bathe in the sweaty nerds in the third one well careful that is the that is an
57:56 audience for a lot of people you're I'm not I'm not bothered I'll smell them coming I've got nice After Shave on thank you Alex and they also have to leave a darken room to come and get me I know I'm in a darken room currently but um I love terryon he's like one of my favorites when I was young loved him the little rabbit snarky dog rabbit thing that ended up with Gatling Guns For Hands uh I also wrote down that LOL trains in America cuz they hitch hiked Across America they also just showed up in America with no yeah in the show they can do that by going like in the digital world and popping out somewhere else I don't know
58:42 why they just didn't do that we've had someone go through a freaking screen like they can do that but no they just were all in America on the same day I'm pretty sure that flight from Japan is long because I think they would have to explain I think it takes a minute to go into the screen out of the screen and then having some time where they're like how do we do that well let me give you a bit of explanation Expedition viewer we went into the screen came out here uh because we could we always can that's just how we get everywhere anyway the story just do a little portal that annoyed me um we we finally meet Willis sure were you talking about Willis no no one ever says that is so upsetting talk about what were you going to say Char I was
59:28 going to say it sort of just easily wraps up like they just fight and kill it and then it goes back to being an egg and it will hatch to be a nice Digimon now oh yeah but like that Digimon was nice before but it got the link through is it got possessed by by virus diaboromon yeah and it wants to go back in time oh it's cute isn't it who doesn't want to go back in time I want to go back in time before I ever saw this film there was the third one is there like a digimon Comedy Club what I I know they they tell they tell little jokes to each other when they all meet let all the digon just sort of like mush oh one one common thing I remember from the show is when and Digimon chat
1:00:13 together is just like unhinged funny um there was the most unhinged bit one Willis has got mad RZ and he's just trying to flirt in with every flirt in with any woman he sees I respect that unhinged fit the most unhinged bit of Comedy is Willis is telling the story to Davis one of the new characters we meet suddenly in this movie and the the jump cut is so harsh from Davis is crying about it saying that's the saddest story I've ever heard the jump cut to like and then he's fine again two seconds later he goes get over it he's like okay two seconds so weird it's not even two seconds it's not it's barely one that is
1:01:01 yet another the writers needed that to end sharpish so apparently in the Japanese version it's a little better but still way off guard and just as unhinged he was Bing his eyes out a minuto now he's the happiest man in the world yeah Willis had two Digimon which is a bit unfair wait you can't have more than one Digimon he can and he does but I feel like that's a bit unfair okay there was a big plot hole where they just has turned gold and they said we need these digx and they're introducing you to loads of new Concepts which haven't been talked about before in the last two bits and uh even though I watched the show Once Upon a Time I didn't quite remember things and was still confused I was like where the [ __ ] did they get these golden eggs from that make them turn gold what what's going on see I'm glad that you have points in
1:01:47 this where it's like this doesn't make sense because that was me the whole hour and a half the third part irritated me the first two bits I really enjoyed but the third part irritated me because it just came out of nowhere and didn't and like it that the you can make a a relatively okay movie I think from the first two or the last two you can't have all three the last two actually now [ __ ] it the third one's so I think like a silent film like at the end of the second one it should have been like a with just a board that just said if you enjoyed these first two fantastic you can leave if you didn't enjoy it get your money's worth another bit here's the thing so when I was talking about Evolution like it's a good film it's
1:02:34 something to watch and entertain yourself for an hour and 40 minutes and like you can follow the story pretty easily this on the other hand is kind of the opposite of that if you watch it for an hour and a half and you're like I've been bored for the past half an hour this third part did not need to be in it this is an UNOH story this is three TV episodes mushed together catch described by a studio who want to release an English version of something and I didn't enjoy it it's funny to say that I Digimon an evolution essentially have the same rating on IMDb yes they have a very different Rotten Tomato score though as well they do have a very different Tom score is 24% yeah and Evolution's 40 evolution is underrated as we said last week yeah similar similar to sim is not this is not
1:03:20 underrated similar to Evolution though Evolution has gained a cult a cult following and it and evolution was was made for anyone Digimon has a cult following for people that love the entire series and franchise but the movie to get people that haven't seen Digimon to go to the cinema it is awful for that if you don't know the show it's terrible to do that because you need so much context with that context for me enjoyable watch really funny nostalgic good throwback loved it third part doesn't really work but whatever I know those characters I can have fun with it yeah but yeah it it if you're new nah doesn't work doesn't
1:04:05 work all in the slightest but you will find it funny yeah I think I that's that's what I've said were funny bits and the soundtrack's banging I agree but it is also tough for people that do like digon though because they will have to leave their basement and go into the sunlight to go to the movies to watch it Alex you need to like careful like you're in the minority when it comes to anime now like it's beyond those o old cliched insults you make towards people they're not insults the truth I don't think Alex is generalizing anime people I think he's generalizing Digimon people yeah now anime people are weird as well though Alex I was trying to defend you why no they're they're weird
1:04:53 people why do you separate it that regard from Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh and such as would you say the same thing or just CU Pokemon is more culturally acceptable because it's bigger I don't point I don't I don't see them as the same thing because I think Pokemon is a bit more inclusive I think I think you could just jump into Pokemon and Pokemon's very simple as like this is the water Pokemon the water Pokemon will kill the fire Pokémon because water beats fire whereas Digimon it's well uh Gucci jimon will probably killon because more terabytes than him this is the thing where they they shouldn't be Digimon and Pokemon can only be compared in name and not actually in what they are they're just
1:05:39 both monster collecting fight monster things in the same genre Digimon was always way more dark Pokemon is more for probably less hard-hitting at times Digimon can be really dark and sad Pokémon less so at times and also the series of Pokémon is more like Digimon is a narrative that start middle end for the TV show whereas Pokemon was monster of the week a lot of the time lots of filler yeah overarching story wasn't it like jumping in to watch The Simpsons or Family Guy you can watch any episode of that from any year and jump in and it doesn't matter Pokemon was a bit more like that whereas Digimon unfortunately you could jump into the Pokemon movie with no prior context really a little bit helps but you don't need to Digimon movie you need to have watched two series of TV to probably find it
1:06:26 enjoyable like I did so I think what we're saying is we should have really done the Pokémon move we're sorry for wasting an hour and a bit of your time uh but thank you for tuning in um I will see you next week along with James and Chandler if they make it goodbye from me it's a goodbye from me and a goodbye from me please follow us on all our socials they'll be linked in the description for wherever you get these podcasts Spotify Apple wherever uh you can find us on Twitter Blue Sky Instagram Tik Tok thank very much see you tomorrow for Jurassic Park [Music]