[Digimon Podcast] LiT Special 31 – Mimi Continues to Be Best Girl

0:02 [Music] hello everyone and welcome to a special episode 31 of Lost in Translation 1 I'm a Lunger and this time we watch super evolution stage did you want to vent to try the adventure on August 1st and this is thanks to on K who provided the fansub for this so we are very appreciative of that because otherwise we would have to watch it raw and we would have my sort of like I think this is what happened what's happening I we wouldn't have watched it I wouldn't physically be able to understand what's going on yeah I would have watched it and I wouldn't have known much about what was what was said because my Japanese is very bad so just for a brief

0:48 synopsis it starts off with their decided to go on a camping trip and then Sora says hey since it's nearly August why don't we just go on August first it'll make it a little bit early and which go on August first will be sort of like this this nostalgic thing and we can reflect on things and you know because that's how we all met and before only sorrow and Taichi really knew each other besides obviously the siblings and minions Koecher oh we're in the same class so they knew each other yeah see so I'm Amy and Joe also knew each other so yeah beats of pairs of them knew each other but then if they didn't all know each other together this is where they met and isn't it it's an anniversary thing although I guess the first time they're doing it yeah and they all say oh yes we'll go and Joe says ok I'll go but I'll only go for one day well he doesn't say that they don't find that out until they're already later but he's all he's all on board and

1:34 they're in touch is very surprised but they also think that tie to you won't go so initially Mimi's having a big deal about how we can do it like the cavemen did we're gonna have nothing we're not gonna do a bungalow we're gonna do tents and we're gonna forage in the wild and it takes a long time to convince Izzy to actually come along and also she throws his laptop on the ground yeah because he gives on googling things while she's talking she's like okay I had what I had it came and don't any googles it exactly it is how you light a fire with sticks it's impossible you can't do it and then we cut to hikari sort of goes up to ty who's playing with a soccer ball she's like you know are you gonna go to this thing is look I don't know Joe is definitely not going so I don't know if I will either and immediately there's a call Joe he's shocked and takes the phone from her and Joe's like all right we're going in this camping trip now I know

2:20 it's gonna be difficult getting tide to go but he's a huge bonehead so you got to explain to him right way but I think I can do it so just pass the phone over to him and he's gonna listen to the whole time yeah I was like who you talking about they won't tell me you Taichi it sounds like comedic moment like the whole phone call cos Joe's like jumping around like touching them and like Hikari looks weeded out the whole time because she's being touched by someone who's not actually yeah so they eventually convinced hai to go and he's clearly going through some stuff which is the stuff because we established this is off strip so to of try it has to be the one or two after what this at the end which was we can see we're making ones go on it implies it might be able to chapter two or major in chapter two

3:06 it definitely it seems to imply that may come on just did something evil and ran away yes so it is presumably after the end of episode two and which would give them the time to have this little adventure and make her wouldn't be with them because she wants to be alone it all makes sense so that happens and they finally convince him and they all go on a big trip and they go hang on the campground and honestly this is my favorite part of the whole play is just the kids hanging out camping and they try and they show up and Mimi has not brought a tent or anything with her yeah but she promised she'd at least bring tent like a tender like tools and things no like not like what she did for the original camping trip which was when she just stole her dad's stuff like she was more prepared for that one than she is for this one and then ty but they're all like okay

3:53 we're gonna leave now and Isis no no you know what we're gonna stay and you know the last train leaves at 10:00 p.m. so we're gonna just hang out here and we'll see what we can do and if we're really struggling at 9:00 p.m. we'll leave that's fine right we'll just go home yeah and he takes charge and he's like the leader again and you're great and everyone's on board with it except for Joe but then they put stuff a backpack in his face so he shuts up yeah poor Joe they go on the trip and the old Tonio this is what we can do Joe will go fishing with goemon and he's like come on you're marching fishes will help and open ones like no I won't was like you can't rely on me for everything he should say no those fish in particular are my friends but he's not doing that either way Joe had the right idea I honestly think so then governments look I can use my claws to cut stuff up and it'll be great we can peel potatoes and maybe he goes off

4:40 to find fruit and they tell her look we're in the Okutama mountains or whatever this we're right next to metropolitan Tokyo we're not gonna find fruit here and then they all have their own little jobs they're off doing and it's doing butterflies playing like it's the intro yeah the opening of them of the stage play and butterflies playing which is really nice to hear like a little montage sort of thing and me because I've been bananas which I had a theory at the time which was just wrong they were irrelevant they would the only thing we did was to be a sign that there was something weird in the world well straightaway we have someone saying bananas were not on file Island Island I love the idea that they've never seen been honest in their life just accept their it's like oh that's a digi one thing yeah so I mean there weren't

5:25 exactly bananas so kind of like weave things we write the peel I think that was a weird yeah but the point is that the straight-up way someone says we don't follow Island you're really suspicious mmm I'm Joe caught a fish which is fine and Matt's been cooking and the I really literally liked when maybe comes back he goes cooking I can help him companies and fish we can put lots of stuff in that would make the curry way better what are you doing no they all like look at her like they're afraid yeah look stuff and she's like what do you want me to do and they'll go the best thing you could do right now is nothing please don't help I would be afraid of her cooking as well yeah she says a line later thank you you know I've been really into this like experimental cooking lately yeah we just when she's saying her

6:10 future occupations or what she wants to do she's like yeah experimental cooking seems good that's pretty much the same thing as reckless chemistry yeah so they all start talking about what occupations they want to do and the inner ones figured out is joeys it's like well I realized when I was in the doodle world that we were seeing so much death and so much pain that I didn't want to cause that pain I wanted to see if I could help but instead this is the bit where he's like look I've got a mock exam tomorrow I got a big family so I know we're all meant to be here for three days but I'm gonna be gone tomorrow yeah because I've always wanted to be doctor and going to be a doctor and I've set my sights on it and no matter how hard it is it's what I'm gonna do and then yeah they sort of Gabonese Hut sort of it is this what you want to do look yeah I guess I don't know hey Carrie you said you wanted to be a kindergarten teacher right which is why we thought that she might have been her in Intimus because you have the same voice actress yeah yeah that's good no

6:59 and they've all sort of wishy-washy with like yeah this sort of they have an idea but they don't really know what they want to do which one Josie's a shooting star and you look it's up there and no one can see it for him and they theorize well maybe because Joe knows what he wants to do and he can see clearly who say I kind of like like taco dude does mention I can't be kind of like kind of likes riding I think that was late it wasn't talking about his mom but it wasn't like he wasn't clear he just sort of said I'm like kind of like riding was the same way the Akari says I mean I kind of want to be a kindergarten teacher I'm not sure like it was a sort of vague sort of maybe but it wasn't you know someone being sure about something yeah ty you're gonna play soccer is like yeah definitely and yet so they're undecided at which point ed Amon breaks

7:45 in he's he showed up earlier he's like the campground organizer he's clearly a Daman and he's this great bit where he's surprising that this is like I thought it would be a running gag and it never was which is like okay you know this is the campground welcome to it you'll find that there are movies he stays off of the audience then waits there around here and it's entirely yeah about those monkeys would you like to see one right now really oh okay I'll just go so he returns at this point say hi everyone how you doing you having a good time you've been you live in your youth you you're awake like midnight and you're not sleeping and you're keeping

8:30 other people awake I'm having fun and they're also apologizing and then it's very clear he wants to hang out with them and they'll get creeped out and they make him leave yeah the people think you feel like hugging them and like saying oh isn't it great to be young please go away and he eventually does looking upset and you know what that I'm on the whole time and they don't but they're like oh it's we I feel like we know that guy do we know that guy sound familiar they said he had a feminine voice which I never pick up but that maybe that's a cultural issue maybe because to me it's always like Elvis yeah which actually there was a bit during the intermission where he says something like they all cheer for etymon or something and then he says something very quickly and it's president as lord have mercy and I have to assume it is a Japanese like exclamation that doesn't translate directly so the lord have

9:15 mercy is the elvis ism right like oh that well what would elvis say here lord have mercy know what he would say I don't know Elvis guy yeah and then they all go up to sleep off to sleep and they they sort of separate and Taichi Animoto talk I believe they do and you sit on the backpack but they sort of mostly sit in silence as you cut to the girls in the sleeping bags and Mimi's maybe he just wakes up and she's like everyone likes or you away yeah because hey Sora if you're awake say something and she just jumps up and she's no sleeping bag yet maybe Jon's up and he carries like she's not gonna answer you if she's asleep so they talk and he's like hey macho guy crushes who do you like I like some not gonna tell you what do you like how do I answer you what's the point of

10:03 this conversation and they go back and forth about it and then they both have shut down each other's they don't talk about it and they all just turn the conspiratorial great music there's all scary stories you have any oh I guess I have one and music I'm scared already but please go on and it's like I just don't yet the actress for Mimi is so good and so on point for how many actually is I so he carries not selling the story it's like okay when I was when I was younger I got a you know I started hearing voices and I started walking that and you know I'm not on my own control ended up in this this Beach and there were these figures with red eyes and they said and she said she saw the story about how when she went to the dark ocean and Cthulhu was

10:48 there and maybe okay notes on Wednesday like alright I don't wanna hear anymore yeah and so when they go back to the suspect crushes they're like what surah haha which made me think when we get finally gonna get a definitive discussion about met and anti and the answer is no well we know that Sora did possibly go out with your macho and 0-2 yeah that's true and they may be broken up at this point for sure who knows and they are I believe dating in the Valentine's CD drama yeah well it coolly doesn't work out for them of thinking if they're on and off like yeah I mean they get married yeah I know now I'm now tire a shipper like when he's off in space who's around the UN diplomats alright yeah why would you go to space the digital worlds right there and you can walk home space is so much less

11:34 interesting when there are other dimensions anyway whatever so they bother Sora for a while and they talk and I do not really what they talk about help me out here I think you may be trying to get an answer out of crushes also bad ambitions and stuff yeah yeah it's what do you want to do yeah so I don't know cuz the key theme with this entire thing is about growing up and whatever we found really fascinating about this story because most of these otherworldly stories where kids go somewhere they make friends etc the representative the thing that represents them growing up is when they leave and they have to go away from it Tama says something like that where you're growing up is all you're doing when going away whereas in digital ones so weird you're growing up but the digital are always going to be they're always gonna be around Peter Pan you go home and you're

12:21 done with that sort of stuff and you don't age forever so you yeah you don't not age forever in Narnia they go back and they're just my kids again they lose all those experiences that's that's how these usually go and I think this one's weird in that it's clearly got themes about growing up and evolving and progressing with your life and becoming an adult and yet it never lets go of the small monsters who are your friends yes weird I mean occasionally you have a reference like we stay the same but there keep it there still growing yeah try so then is this when Edelman shows up and then actually reveals these data mama no that's after they find out they can't leave oh yeah when they go and they find the the barrier yeah so what is it exactly how this goes it's a long thing we just we did just watch it yeah I think it's easy hanging out at the

13:07 barrier and he's figured out like he's walk away and he hits the thing and he can't go any like something's up and they check their phones and the time is like 37 33 or something yeah okay weather how's that possible okay and no it's they it's a it's the morning and he's like have you guys noticed something that's weird right I've been thinking I've he's writing on the ground right oh yeah saying what's the probability that we'd be at the campsite yeah and there's no one here usually and zero point zero zero zero zero three percent and just that's insane there's no way this could happen so if any Gavin's have been together have you knows anything weird anything at all in times like well I caught a bunch of fish but that's just that's fine I'm just great at fishing and Mimi says look I didn't think it was relevant

13:52 right because I thought my watch was a piece of crap yeah we market in New York but it's the time is 37:33 so it shouldn't be doing that at which point TK goes that's also the time on my phone it's obviously the probability of both things screwing up in exactly the same way is impossible so they go to the the front entrance of the campground and they can't leave and they'll and they realize they sort of is this a digital gate are we in the digital world right now that would explain like the bananas we found in yesterday as well and it's you know it's a it's a huge problem which point I think now anyone shows up yeah and he's like haha I've been here the whole time you didn't know cuz I'm a clever disguise everyone take off my hat because it's too hot how do you so how do you handle the heat oh yeah and so

14:38 he's hilarious he's just comedy like big comedy villain well he was always a comedy villain that no but he was kind of like a little wacky guy this is like a straight-up like looking at the audience winking yeah he breaks the fourth wall constantly and it's a good time so he gets to take off his clothes which when he got me to take off like the apron pot a little bit concerning but that's fine it's not like he it's not like she's the only person he molests in the entire show yes that's high so that happens and he reveals himself and he tells the story well physically they're about to fight and Palamon looks like she's about to evolved to fight because Ottomans limbs aren't working for some real and also Todd she says these devices not responding yeah so polymer to evolve and then I don't like no no I can stop evolutions we watched the show and remember what

15:25 guys can do and he says I know that you know I went on I went easy on you last time but keep in mind I'm tough you know I'm strong I'm a strong enemy you can't you know I'm a real Tuffy and so I think tailmon tries to fight him and he's like nah he sees the Co for the first time who are you you look like little sister type kitty you're adorable too so they transpose a fails exactly because she wasn't around that was the next dark and when middle anyone came back and he got he was there melanin want only saw Jo and me me and that was when they were with saberleomon joint I believe that puppet monarch I think so and they specifically reference metal element later so that was this atom on that's

16:11 confirmed yeah through this know we know it was because he's mentions it he explains how he became metal it him on I he was he was in the big boat the big boy with autumn on and then like he sort of merged within that's how I became an atom all right it is explained so he says that he he gives a story very similar to he carries where he went to the dark ocean but he was there and he goes how has it been guys and they go it's been like six years he goes yeah 60s would be nice I was there for a hundred years and he he hates Thai so much for defeating him which is weird though because the metal element was defeated not by Thai yeah so you think that he would focus on that but the original defeat was Thai specifically metal Greymon and he's obsessed over and for ages and goes let's go because I hated you oh I hate you and then I realized it hates really close to love

16:56 look pretty sure I love you now so we're gonna be together forever and it's this really like fascinating I can totally see what how his motivation got here and it makes him really unpredictable and really scary yeah and they says well I'm gonna keep you here forever and the next thing when we just look like after the intermission but I was going to it now and he's like kooky cooking them yucky so but it's kind of like it's it's terrifying and but he's being nice to them but he's being like he's holding he's clearly holding their against their will as I think I will feed you barbecue and we will stay here forever there's an edge of something is wrong yeah just just before the intermission he says all right so now you will see a super evolution on stage how he dropped the name of the of the show and they dropped the thing down and he does his big dance and turns what he's doing is he's summoning is the etymon five and there's four other like

17:41 a mini Edmonds who different colors like a scent I team yeah and yeah they drop an intermission at this point and during the intermission Joe comes out like just after the intermission yeah well it's doing the submission for app from our purposes because it's before Adam on shot comes back and says it's over yeah so Joe come back also just before the intermission anyone keeps on referencing house it's at the end of the first act yeah yeah because he's just kicking down that fourth wall the like one of the animal patterns to the audience is like we'll be back soon after the intermission yeah so Joe comes says like oh you know he had you did his mock exam and it was he feels amazing about it he feels really great went perfectly he remembered everything he's so happy about a good ones like I'm really proud of you I think maybe going to camp really helped you out yeah and just like yeah you're right it did it like it's

18:28 all I needed I needed to like refresh my mind before a big exam and I did believe well it wasn't is just the mock exam yeah and is really happy with it that makes me happy and he's good English later but right now he's got he knows he's got a call from ok and you know he wouldn't get a call if it wasn't an emergency so he's gonna go check out what's going on with that and then we cut back and anyone comes up with these big like wooden clappers and such like a dress in the old he's like alright who's the best digital villain of all time in the public yeah he's really happy with and he reintroduces the shows like welcome back and we too he gave it a very brief recap and then he thoughts clapping again the curtain raises and he's a everyone's you know they were all really afraid before and now they were like barbecue delicious and all hanging

19:14 out with the etymon 5 and everything seems ok until he the talking about like making yakisoba and they asked her if you want something she's got her arms crossed just like don't don't want any don't want anything she like she's obviously not falling for it or does or you know she's got some separation from the happiness at the moment she's concerned and she storms off anyone 5 coming and they say Oh what is it you want to die with you on that age do what you want without new noodles what do you want in and think you can't have carbs your own a diet yeah they've kind of being overbearing and then yes she says well I don't I don't want this I want to go home and she and then he also says hey I also want to go home know what I have a bar that she leaves and I don't know who the other one is but that someone else leaves alright Sora yeah and it was like mm-hmm mmm thank you like he's getting really

20:01 he's getting really aggressive about it no won't you just stay here forever like because the time is like 57 no yeah is like 63 40 or something yeah the time keeps on going up you know what happens when he gets to the hundredth hour I don't know either we'll find out and it's like something something's going on here and we cut back to the to the front entrance where he's like okay all right we can't get out of here and he shows that you can't walk out and TK tries it he fails as well and it's totally not working and then Joe comes through that's later yeah he's doing the same but what happens first is he says yeah I only got through to Joe's voice mail and Kosho says well that that's good that means that you actually connected through to him you like you still in service but then it's after like they sort of work out we're pretty sure this place gives you the you

20:49 know we're in a version of the digital world that's giving you the things you want yeah well they say that about that that's just in the digital world in general like it just gives you things yeah and then when Joe shows up he says well that could be faked it's just what we want to see and then we find out that Joe is able to pass through the barrier okay but we should say specifically how they do this which is all right Joe proven is I don't know how like well then go away we think we know that you're really goes okay about to walk out do you really want me to go yes okay really it's okay yes Joe oh all right let's walk away he runs back but are you sure yes oh don't walk away for like a fourth time finally TK runs after the way were in Oh hold on wait wait and easy goes Oh God that made no sense I've ever looked

21:35 multiple problems of this theory and like what well here's the thing if it was the digital world giving us what we want how did he come from outside the gate he walked in from the real world we know that so it couldn't possibly be that and the fact that Joe can leave means that they're not trapped there by the circumstances they're trapped there by some other factor yes and he goes well what's the what's the only thing that Joe's got that they don't he knows what he like he's focused on something else he's got his dream of being a doctor and he knows what he wants to do move forward because the theme is growing up and being an adult so he can leave and go back and forth because he's not obsessed with being stuck on August 1st world and he's already looking towards his future no one no one else is he's the only one who's sort of like well this is my

22:20 future now yeah I actually think there's a subtext of this entire show which they 0/2 touches on occasionally but I don't think try does it very good and try touches on it as well and I think he does a great job of it which is what would these adventures the digital world do to children like as far as troll-like traumatic experiences go I think no they tried does touch on in the first chapter with yeah with touchy that's what I'm saying is I don't think they do a good job of it I think they do it in a small way and they say yeah a little bit but like TK should be messed up by this and he's a totally normal kid yeah they're like the Thai being like a soldier in 0-2 and he carried with him is more how I would expect it oh yeah yeah like how I said we have to kill the key that was the best other kids that we can kill did

23:07 you wanna we have to and they just never really feels like that again it's weird that Thai goes from that to being traumatized the opposite direction right now he's afraid of everything within years of nothing having happened yeah within three years yeah so that's that's what happens in Jo they get him to stay and in the meantime everyone's left and I think it's ed moans like having an argument with um with Thai he's like no I can I can kill you anytime I want but I don't want to because I love you we're gonna be together forever definitely it's gonna be fine I could kill you though because he's obviously unbalanced yeah which is the scary part about it like I was just like I hate you but I love you but I want to kill you that's fine yeah let's fight right now evolve you're ugly because no I really can't and then because he can't he they they also have interrogate Thai like what's going on with you what's happening and

23:53 he's very defensive about it and they believe it's Hikari that says but most of them say he'll at the start of the camping trip it was almost like he was when he ten yeah he's energetic he was being a leader he was showing he was like he was when he was ten or I believe maybe eleven I think he was an adventurer yeah which is not at all how he was right beforehand no so something's something's going on he's uh regressing yeah exactly and then I can't quite remember what happens next on earth there's moments between Digimon and kids where they sort of talk about what they want to do and Mimi says I lied before I do not crush on anyone but I do kind of know what I want to do wait hold on if this is right off this I have to easy explains what the y2k bug was and then they Joe they

24:40 they all sort of go away and Joe's talking to Matt because Matt I see something's up with you do you want to talk about it you know I've got TK to leave it's hot as hell in front of France family and Matt goes look I need some time and she goes through got plenty of time it's 99 51 and he goes we can wait and then it like skips really hard to the hundred hours and then everything is also go really weird yeah and then it goes to like 110 and then then we get a little Mole saying like [ __ ] they're young selves and they're all like reflecting on what they how they were when they were young and how they've changed they realize you know they have they are growing up there's a really cool like the way they use the set is really cool it's mostly these like white backgrounds but they call these projectors the set is like one of my favorite things about it how they it's also so easy to they just project things that's one more budget that way but it's it's really good like the way

25:26 they do the effects and the way they move around I think I like it yeah and so they're they're going back and forth about like what are we gonna do how do we progress wait like we we feel like we've progressed we don't know what to do and the Digimon I think one of the best things about this show is how the Digimon are clearly not just tools of the kids there are different personalities and that's how they can give new perspectives yeah so if I think it's like p.m. on talking to Sora and she's like you you know you're your feelings that you're the same as you always been is wrong I've seen you grow up I know that you have changed and Golan's got grandma's got his little conversation grandmas already gone back and forth with it was um tea cane Patamon have their back and forth in which the Padawans actor looks so happy he's always so happy and all the kids have had discussions with their with

26:12 their digital on and government's helping Matt come along and it all goes and I think the last one who really hasn't gotten anywhere is ty as he's stuck and he has a very touching conversation with Agumon about how he wants to he wants to go as well and they realize that yeah they've also have accepted that yeah you know what growing up maybe the thing we need to do but the did you did the corrupted digital world is still around them yeah oh yeah that's because ed Amon also wants to regress because he because if he's weirdness with being away for 100 years yeah and he also wants to go back to the time and spend lots of time with the kids especially Tai Chi yeah so they tied she's like okay you want we got a we got a beat ed Amon and he evolves he because he's got his conviction he can evolve now yeah and he evolves to the metal Greymon and then I want defeats ed

26:58 Amon and we get sort of like this we actually see a metal Greymon and it's kind of like giant silly puppet that was just fine like looks terrible like that's fine and doesn't looks good I feel like the what they do with the lights and like the effects you'd like I feel like right here I feel like if we were in the audience it would look really good I feel like if you're in the audience like Google but when they had the shot from far away when they had like the establishing shot we saw the whole stage and metal Greymon was saying he looked really good because it had the lights on him they had like a bit of smoke they had things that were covering up the people behind them and it looked really good but as soon as that we got close shots of him it looked it still looked fine but it looked a little bit like a bit like paper mache that's probably as it was yeah but but when it

27:44 was far away it looked good and I feel like if we were in the audience it would have looked good but because we had close shots which we wouldn't be getting if we were in the audience it didn't look that good but I still thought it was fine yeah so breathe smoke on Ed Amon he appears to die and it's all good until basically everyone comes back he's wearing a robe now you think what's up with that he goes ah you thought you defeated me but I'm fine in fact haha I'm going yeah you beat me once in the middle led him on but I found another revolution best thing is he says you weren't there for this but I do have metal atom on as an ultimate level but I don't even need that I'm gonna go one higher King air time on and he does a big evolution and because it's Braveheart but it's like a different version of corrupted grounded and like corrupted evolu screen mm-hm and he comes out in these dresses King at him on now and then he

28:31 much immediately disappears and he's like so he like beats up metal Greymon a bit yeah really not that was easy and but also this area of the digital world basically this is my body you know you can see me here but I use this entire wall as my limbs do you remember these guys all the bad guys from an adventure come back yeah there's projections all the dark masses are there and everyone's there and been abandoned well a weird devil version of an event I think it's undead mode something like that and then it mostly focuses have been Evangeline who is a big face it was weird silly talking loop whereas like no no I'm gonna kill you now and he's moving around and metal guy was chasing him and failing and it's it's a cute effect it's a little silly but it's fine it's a stage play you expect that and then basically VIN a metal and start saying yeah I could was a whole word I'm

29:16 gonna crush you and it's it's implied I guess that he's grown out of stone and is then pushing against them I don't think it conveys it perfectly but it conveys enough but they're pushing back on him and tie like the event sort of losing hope and all of a sudden you hear middle c'mon help them out yeah any phrases yeah and then there's an evolution to omnimon giant set of shoulders and a head on the ground I mentioned to Jay the outside the theatre you could actually pose with this and likes down his shoulders it's really cool I would have loved to do that really awesome and then they defeat venom venom on because when it cuts to black because there's no way to animate the giant shoulders you've seen there the whole time yeah just behind and it doesn't have

30:02 arms or any moving points it just has lights at any cost of like I want to say like a minute no no 10 seconds but it felt live felt quite long because it was just black and some sound effects it's like it did the video to it off tap tap tap then they come back and the kids are just like in the back of the real world now and they're all dressed in their school uniforms again yeah and they're like well that was weird oh they looked at the even ones oh it was all a dream and ten jokers if it was all the dream but I didn't ace my mock exam and I have to do it again that was my favorite part of the whole thing usually I do I I hate the the oh it was all the drain thing kind of makes sense because how could this be canon yeah this is a perfect way of saying it's not canon but it also sort of maybe and then they and then they make me say oh well we've got make

30:49 you Mon that's still causing the distortions and you can leave you put the goggles on you can see the distortions and we also have to see how much he's up he's doing which is make oh yeah and so they're actually saying I we have to actually check on her so they're not like completely forgetting about micro cuz Makos not mentioned the whole time except for now as if she didn't even exist it's like the opposite of episode five yeah yeah you're right and and then I believe it just ends and they sort of like you know they've got resolved they will they've realized that they do have to grow up and they sort of aren't stuck in the past again but they won't revisit August first it's like a memorial thing and they'll come back four years ten years whatever they'll throw you back yeah we're not stuck in August first but we're happy to see we're still so going to celebrate it because it's important yes and they've sort of like accepted that like they're not sort like going to regress anymore they want to like just just appreciate August versus like for the memories but not for what they are

31:35 now thanks for the memories even if they weren't so great and then because this was the DVD version the it was like recorded on the final night so we have like this cute moment with the with the cast members which is really cute they get like four curtain calls they'll come and they give a little speech they all give a little speech and then they all come out again I use a speech and then he comes out again here's another speech they're all just like thank you all for coming and it's all really nice and Joey happy it's just like it's so great to see like well the actor that was Joe it was really great to see everyone loving didn't one silly hyperactive and happy about it yeah and Mimi's actors like yeah average was really happy I could play some with so much energy all the time most have ever been in my entire life yeah which she did that really well like she put a lot of energy into Mimi because to play

32:21 Mimi you have to have a lot of energy tell me and that was it that was the show what were your highlights my highlights are pretty much all of the character interaction before the actual story begins which is great I just I really enjoyed that I hear that the story was relatively boring when it became and actually all he's a crisis we have to deal with it yeah although anyone's whole thing and anyone the actor general it was great I was the idea of how they brought him back in was fascinating and it's such a what's important of the story is in the way that it's been adapted to a stage play is that well the bad guys not here to kill you he's not here to fight you there will be a fight later that'll be the climax but it is so much more important the emotional journey and the background of what's going on here and that's allows you have much more cerebral story about like trauma and

33:08 what's going on yeah rather than if mentally I want to kill you now there was like fighting on stage for 40 minutes I feel like they I feel like the fighting part wasn't really necessary but I feel like they put it in because it's digimon and they wanted to show off their puppets cough cough and the V Taylor the fighting wasn't the important part like it was actually the journey and as you said yeah it was the whole atom on was also like wanted to regress it one he wanted to be back to the way things were an adventure which is what sometimes what the fans want like that they just want everything to be adventure again yeah like that's feels like one of those things with fans think they want something and if they ever got it there'd be unhappy about it yeah because I also think that's what you always get you're consistently getting the way things go back into adventure ie kids who don't know anything going into a digital world

33:53 and learning it from the ground up yeah and I think having experienced that like four times now it's garbage every time except for maybe the first time I was fine and what's what did you want needs is fresh ideas where it's not like that like at mom was like that because if mom was different because it was phone apps that was mostly in the real world and the interaction was about learning about the digital world no you did it was mostly about its own story vtm it was like that because yeah you go to this little world but that's not the issue the issue is the political like war that's going and also here in your back do you want to begin with yeah she said oh these Digimon art from Fire Island they're from its father could serve as the one they went to in adventure so he's already really knowledgeable so he doesn't need to learn that even even zero to to an extent carry in TK had

34:41 like that upside of like people who already knew what was going on yeah which made it feel different to regional adventure frontier tamers and savers where they also have the line for the ground up and what that's the worst part of timers easily they go the digital one they're like oh I'm here now I got to learn this place from the ground up because we've seen it yeah and having seen every season of yeah you're right they have to relearn the Doodle world and we have to relearn with them and that's it comes with this problem of like but we've already learned it so many times we've we know the rules yeah and then they're like you know the rules have changed not for any good reason just because we feel like it there's no babying and training states are the same the same any other highlights north of my head I guess well I would he like the knife day how like we forgot oh yeah we didn't we didn't even mention it in our synopsis part but

35:27 your motto clearly named knife day and the other band members are kind of like um not only fling this name and they all agree because what happen was no fur day was his old band cuz that was an episode one yeah and this is episode two and this is if they go it's a totally new band except for Matt he goes well okay it's knife of day but with new members and they go I don't know he's yet 94 days great okay it's cool the new members I love the song I'm really not sure about this knife of day name know the songs great okay bands good name was great he's so into it this is I guess when they become world on the edge of a knife which is in chapter 2 it must be I think because now for day was I believe just mentioned in chapter 1 I think it was night of robbing I recall I also really liked the dark ocean reference and I guess they were two of them because ed Amon said I was in the dark ocean for a

36:13 hundred years he was there while he Kari was there he should have mentioned demon being there she would be one system on it was banished there I guess he was Ethan hammer takes place in the dark ocean what what do you steam on got out the same time Adam on got out and demon is actually causing issues in Troy I mean that would imply that this is Canada though that would imply the CIA a dream and be a Canada story I also really like the ho Monica oh wait when Taji says hey first night we spent in the doodle world and we just play the harmonica for me and Mac doesn't even say anything well that is how Monica places um first and you woke up and I was keeping watch and you helped it with you what he says yeah just starts playing like mid-sentence

37:00 and it's really cute and he almost does it perfectly almost he drops a couple notes at the end and I really like the scene and then another highlight was and this is like this minor thing but animal doesn't know he carry that was good and the continuity this was very strong and a pack apparently and I I just heard about this on the latest with the bull podcast that I was on director he had not has not worked on digimon or heard about digimon before although if they did their research a bunch of research into the same same way Taichi didn't meet medal in Amman and that's also referenced I'm just really I'm like why can't the show would be this good with that the thing is I didn't but before I was told about how he carry and everyone didn't meet that would even passed my mind if they didn't mention it I wouldn't even thought about it I guess I wouldn't either because it's not you know I probably don't

37:46 thought about it at all in the first place but especially since he comes back and there you have to think of that one as well yeah because that's at least we really saw animals around after Kara joins the team so of course they'd know each other yeah and same with me later more not going Tai Chi because yeah that was me me enjoy with saberleomon be really funny please leo mom's not here to save you now yeah oh that's right oh he's died like four times oh geez and this is positioned in the series of try he might have died just just died depending on if it's most likely and my it might just be like I think it might be before chapter 2 but I'm not sure it's because it's only making ones gone so I make who months isn't world on the edge of the knife so it could be like during chapter two no make her mom's

38:31 gone me well the other knife was Chapter three know is that was chapter two the festival chapter two was the festival right he says oh we have a new name now we're world on the edge of the knife unless they were just world on the edge of the knife for the festival yeah maybe maybe could be and also that the songs he sings in the stage play is also the ending for chapter 3 so it could just be after chapter two and that could just be an irrelevant band and my final highlight is the scenery I really liked it I liked how they were projecting things onto the backdrop I thought it was quite cool very easily done but I really liked it no it wasn't necessarily that easily done you for there have been no cheaply should cheap cheaper done like cheaply don't like this it wasn't the most expensive way of doing it for sure but why don't spread out like feed it really well especially with the evolution was done very well and oh yeah the voice

39:18 actors for the Digimon were pretty amazing because they had to time it perfectly with the puppeteers and I think they were actually the same voice actors for the Digimon not for the children obviously because they didn't know the react it had to be the actors but I really the actors were great by the way like I feel like ones that seemed the most true with their mannerisms what probably made me enjoy probably because Joe was like sort of like it be anxious he was taller than everyone else like that's in his mannerisms of being tall no no he's mad no no it's just same mannerisms , and the fact that he's tall when the mat was pretty broody so that's that's accurate yeah but that's pretty easy to be like I felt like Joe's like sort of like how he's sort of like anxious like he would just sort of be a little bit all over the place and the fact he was good too is he was good yet I'm just saying I think the best one was when made me enjoy for me okay I think Mimi and generals fantastic I

40:03 like how she's in a beanbag I don't think beanbag sleeping bag and she's just like you like you like she's so so Mimi all right all right tell me answer me if you're asleep yeah and there are a lot of bits that I like and I know I just know for a fact that after we're done recording artist I'll think of more things that I like because I just really really really like this it was great fun what rating would you give it oh it's really good the cannoli she always gonna say salmon but you know you're right because I'm always like I enjoyed the whole thing yeah I thought you would have given like a seven but I know it's you're right it is plus one oh and it was it was enjoyable it was fun it was probably better than a lot of try maybe hmm yeah no it's pretty much better than everything I try when I looked at the Tom's like two at two and a half hours I was gonna be like oh no oh no this is gonna be boring I'm for pain and it

40:50 wasn't boring like were a bit so like I look kind like I don't like the fighting bit I guess but the interactions were really nice and it had a nice theme of like growing up because I feel like that should be a big theme in Digimon because we've known them since they were 11 and now they're older teenagers and they're becoming adults and it needs to be more of a coming-of-age story and I feel like the stage play did a good job so if you have do have you have if you have not seen the stage play I highly recommend that you do it is good and I'm really enjoyed it and I feel like this is probably one of the best things to come out of the did one franchise maybe it is but it's it's a weird one of that beer where you can't like recommend it by itself I think that you have to have watch adventure 0 to Z relevance 0 she's completely irrelevant that's one thing that they didn't say like oh we should go back over told you kid oh no the only

41:36 thing that was relevant about 0-2 was the dark ocean oh that's right that is important but we didn't see their death rays the first half of 0 2 is it is less important yes I don't remember seeing a Digivice I know they were holy ok advice on the evolution Sicily about that I'm talking about was it to be too small tire was holding something well him it would have had a prop presumably had a prop but we didn't actually see what he was holding you just been holding like because hand like this I kind of suspect it might have been that yeah but it's uh it wasn't necessarily like it might have just been like ask a cube or it could have been like a disability couldn't get them because yeah like a did your best toy would make sense because that looks about right a CSA Digivice would be perfect for that actually I think I did see photos of the actors holding up CSA D devices unless I'm misremembering but no it's um we didn't actually see device

42:22 props because it didn't we have to I guess it's too far away anyway hmm but it was um no I was really impressed like OD I already pretty much had high hopes for it because everyone said how it was better than try and everyone said like everyone was seeing its praises so he kind of like had high hopes but that was also worrying because I was like oh no what if it's bad this is pretty much exactly what I would want from try yeah and it was like it hits you in the nostalgia it references it slightly but not not as much that it's like in your face about everything like hey remember this remember this remember this no it was it was like we remember this yes and thus it's part of the story it wasn't I'm just saying oh remember when this happened it was like it was it was nice little references it was nice um I really enjoyed it I'm really happy we watched are you happy I made you watch it yeah no more right because I know that you were kind of like do we have to watch the stage play when it comes out

43:07 yeah I was resistant to the idea but then at least when I told you yesterday and I was like hey people really like the stage play anyway okay that's funny I think your hopes lifted from that a little bit which is good alright so I think that's it for the our discussion on the stage play thank you for listening and say and thanks J for as always coming on to talk about Digimon with me okay I'll only die sooner than I was I would otherwise have as its drains in my life force so as always everything's gonna be linked in the description as well as a red bubble which you can buy more than just shirts there too in contact us and stay updated you can immerse it lost in translation one at gmail.com or you can comment on this episode of message on soundcloud you can follow us on that translation on twitter and you can find us and lost in translation on Tumblr Facebook Instagram and YouTube we have scrubs there and with the will

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