0:00 When I got sober, I got the bright idea to become a vegetarian. So, I was getting no fat soluble vitamins such as vitamin K2 that are necessary to have strong teeth and enamel. I was very excited to work with Dr. Nunnelly out in Marble Falls. He sat me down and just said, "Listen, man. There's nothing to fill because your teeth are so >> they're like little shards. >> They're just nubs. >> It would be neat to know about the things you thought were right and true and then later found [music] out they weren't." One of the biggest fallacies that I've had to overcome was when I checked into treatment and got sober, I was under the impression that drugs and alcohol were my problem. The thing that I came to realize is that
0:49 [music] >> All right, here we go. Episode 695. >> Boom. almost up to the 700. Oh my god, it's incredible. >> How do you feel about that? >> It's staggering to think about the fact that I have had almost 700 long form conversations. >> I wonder if you did the estimate of hours cuz yours tend to go quite long. I mean, these AMAs, like the one we're going to do today, we I try to keep closer to an hour, 90 minutes, but sometimes you guys get flowing for three plus hours. >> They're always longer than I plan on. When people come and sit in that chair, they always ask me, "How long do you think we'll go?" And I go, "H probably like 60 to 90 minutes, and then next
1:35 thing you know, it's three and a half hours later." >> Yeah. >> Uh but yeah, so people can find the show notes at lukew.com695. The uh number 695. And today Allison has uh compiled a few listener questions of which I have no idea which is the most fun way I find to do it. And so um I'm really excited to hear what people want to know about and hopefully I know something about some of it. >> Well, first things first, um [laughter] what is she doing here? Compliant
2:24 compli. >> So you Thank you. So for those watching the video on Spotify or YouTube, I have a little brownie [laughter] cake. A little birthday brownie cake. >> Thank you, honey. Cuz this comes out on my birthday, October 29th. >> That is correct. >> I didn't even put that together. I've been so scrambled with all things book and podcast and everything. I didn't even uh I didn't even add that up. >> Mhm. So, we're starting your celebration right now. >> Excellent. Well, I will make a wish.
3:10 That wish isn't going to work. There we go. Clap cookie. >> You know you get old when it takes two tries to get one candle out. >> It's Papa's birthday, Cookie. You can just set it there. >> Okay. >> Happy birthday, honey. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Best husband in the whole world. >> Funny thing is, it looks like I'm going to be on a plane to Miami on my birthday which doesn't sound like that fun of a way to spend your birthday. So, we'll have to have a real celebration uh once I return. >> Mhm. I always mark my calendar like no work, no meetings, no bookings. And then that happened to be the only day I can fly there to do a podcast. So, >> yep. All right. Well, here we go. >> 56 years. >> I thought you were 57.
3:57 >> I hope not. No, it's 2026. I was born in 70, so I'll be 56. >> Okay. I'm not that >> That's the only way I ever remember. Thank God I was born in on an even year, so it's easy for me to do the math. If I was born in 1974 67 or something, it would require a lot more calculus for me to get my head around it. >> Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. >> So, yeah. >> Okay. Uh let's begin with a question from Jessica. She would like to know um well, she actually starts with it would be neat to know about the things you thought were right and true and then later found out they weren't. or even topics where you changed your mind over time because you learned more. And when I saw Jessica's
4:43 question, it actually segueed perfectly into a topic that I have been wanting us to kind of circle back to. And that is the topic of evolution. So, I'll get us started with um a specific area of interest with this because remember when we did it was a number of episodes ago. Um it was you and I chatting about some contractors that we had in the home. It was the last house project we had. And I really was like wanting to dissect your methodology and your perspective on when things like that go ary, how do you deal with conflict
5:29 and trying to get in that example it was a team installing some things in the house. It wasn't going well. Do you remember that episode where I kept like wanting to get like even more and more detailed at how you handle these things? And at that time you your methodology that you were quite confident in was like kind of like a three strikes rule. you're like, you know, I'll I'll first I'll send him an email and if that's met with respect, then, you know, like you explained, um cuz I personally wanted to have it broken down and I and I sense that it would be supportive to some of the listeners, too, to hear how you handle that stuff. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that since that episode, um, based upon observing you, I
6:18 feel like this would be an area where you may have evolved and wouldn't necessarily have the same three strikes role because I feel like I've witnessed um, you going more down to uh, you're out of here, one or two strikes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I think that's true. I mean, that's been a a learning curve for me because just due to the things that I experienced in childhood, um, high emotional volatility and conflict is not something I typically gravitate toward. And, uh, one of my adaptations to that was to avoid conflict even when it was appropriate and necessary. [laughter]
7:04 Um, >> sorry. It was Oh, I'm just reflecting that you've come so far with this. >> Yeah. >> The vision I just had in my head though was funny. >> It's hilarious, isn't it? >> Um, so, you know, on the more pathological side of that, that can [snorts] >> morph into people pleasing in a way that is not healthy for me. um or the person or people that I'm enabling by co-signing whatever low integrity behavior they're engaged in. So yeah, over time I think I have gotten better at there's an entrepreneurial principle that says hire slowly, fire quickly. And that always rang true to me, but I found
7:50 it to be more difficult. So especially in the realm of business, I just would meet someone and I'd need a position filled and be like, "Oh, you're cool. good enough, let's go, you know, and then wouldn't really take my time to vet people and make sure that it was a a mutually um beneficial match and things like that. So, I have definitely gotten better at hire and not just hiring, but I mean just getting to know someone or just allowing someone into my life or into our lives. I'm I'm definitely much more invested in um learning about them and really testing the dynamic to see if it's a fit for whatever level of engagement. >> Cuz can you hold your thought? I would imagine you figured out that overall the slower entry
8:37 actually ends up being more efficient overall than if you were at a higher fast just because you think you know like if I just get someone in then we'll get going quicker. But then actually then when you encounter issues because you weren't slower to bring them on board then the amount of conversations and energy to like get them to shift it ends up being um a longer more arduous process if you hire too fast um than if you were to take your time and vet and have more conversations and more meetings and more pre-in it goes against like logical ical thinking, but overall in the big picture, it's more efficient, too.
9:23 >> Yeah. The net expenditure of energy to have to try to course correct or backtrack is definitely >> higher. Yeah. >> And when I say um you know, like hiring people, I mean just any relationship, you know, it doesn't necessarily have to be business or services related or anything. Just I've tend to slow my role a bit as I get to know someone. And that was true even when we met and started dating and became a couple, you know, we I mean it moved quickly in a spiritual sense, but it moved slowly in a in a physical and intimate sense, you know, which was definitely um new to me at that point. So uh yeah, I would say I I get into any kind of relationship work or otherwise a bit more slowly and
10:08 really largely inspired by watching you and your high level of discernment and intuition. Just the way you're able to feel into the energy of a person or a project or whatever it is um very quickly has been instructive for me. you know, it's helped me to kind of pause and slow down and tune in to what I'm feeling and experiencing. So, yeah, that would be definitely one way of behaving uh that has evolved and changed uh from the past. Um just having more discernment and just being a bit more prudent about things. But what came to mind other than that with that question was one of the biggest fallacies that I've had to overcome was
10:55 been a long long time since I came to this realization. But um in 1997 when I checked into treatment and got sober uh I was under the impression that drugs and alcohol were my problem and that's why my life was completely >> chaotic and unmanageable. And I naively thought that if I just cleaned up and got physically sober that >> the great person beneath all of the addiction would emerge >> and I would be happy and functional and successful. And um it took quite a few years in early recovery to start to identify that my issues around addiction were symptomatic rather than causal.
11:40 >> Right. I I have he also heard throughout my life um from various people um over the course of many years who have had addiction issues. I've I've heard almost the exact same things come out of their mouth like this thing is the devil or this like trying to blame or point to the drug being the problem. And I'm not saying that certain substances are not a problem, but to your point, yeah, like their knee-jerk reaction. I guess just maybe they're in some additional stage of denial or not ready to accept that there's probably going to be a lot deeper work to come from within them. They're not ready to face that. Yeah, I'm sure there's a ton of different
12:27 reasons why, but I've legit heard people say like that thing is the devil. that thing's the problem. [laughter] Like, >> well, it it's easy to fall for that uh illusion because on the surface when you're trapped in addiction, most if not all of your problems are created by or at least related to the way that you're abusing substances. So, on the surface, it's quite logical. You know, oh, I need to quit doing these drugs, then my life will smooth out. Um, >> but the thing that I came to realize is that physical sobriety doesn't change your character. >> Mhm. >> And so I remember in early sobriety I mean I was steal from my job and do all kinds of unsober behavior in that those
13:13 first couple years um and didn't even really think about it. You know, I didn't I didn't have a tremendous amount of guilt around it. It's just that's who I was. and taking drugs and alcohol out of my hands didn't change the way that I thought and behaved and definitely didn't get to the the deeper levels of um of trauma and pain that I was trying to avoid and also didn't in and of itself help me to feel more connected, you know, which is really what those substances I thought were doing for me was helping me feel connected to people and to myself and just to my life and the uh The tragic irony of that is the further I went into addiction, the more isolated and lonely I became. So when I got sober, there was
13:59 a little bit of reprieve because I had a sense of community and I had support and I made friends and we were all on the same path and that was uh that was wonderful. But even that human connection and that community still didn't change who I was fundamentally um in terms of my morals and ethics and just the way that I rolled in the world. So that was that was a huge awakening for me to start to come to terms with the fact that there was a lot more inner work that needed to be done um in addition to just the physical sobriety. So that's what I would look at as emotional sobriety, you know, being able to self-regulate, mental sobriety, thinking in a sane, logical way, [laughter] working towards solutions rather than focusing on a problem, etc. Um, but I'll
14:45 close her question with I think what it really points to is true open-mindedness, which is one of my most cherished principles. And open-mindedness to me goes both ways. In one respect, it allows me to contemplate new ideas um freely and take what works and leave the rest. So, you know, to be open to uh changing my mind and just being receptive to different people and um [clears throat] you know, the way different people see the world, uh open-minded to superficial things, different kinds of music, foods, whatever. But the open-mindedness that has set me free more than being open and receptive to new things is through my
15:31 willingness to discard falsehoods and old ideas when they are either proven to be false or I find another truth or principle to replace them that supersedes them. So >> yeah, you don't let pride get in the way. >> Yeah, exactly. just to not I think coming to know and understand who I really am beyond the persona um helps me be less attached to beliefs and ideas as part of my identity. You know, I I already know that I'm not this thing that I see in the mirror. There's there's something behind these eyes and behind everyone's eyes that speaks to something uh much more eternal. And so the more in touch I am
16:18 with my real self, the less apt I am to cling to ideas and beliefs or even cling to the idea of being right. I mean, it's to me it's like it's a great feeling to to to discover that I was wrong about something and just like, "Oh, thank God. I just I saw that I was wrong. Now I can move on and find what's right." you know, um, where there were periods of my life where I would just be so rigid and so attached to a certain idea because I was so closely identified with it as part of who I am. I think that's a lot of the problem in the world. >> Is that ego protection or um, what's that thing? Cognitive dissonance. >> Cognitive dissonance. Yeah, I think so. I mean, the ego is always seeking to fortify itself and ingrain itself into
17:03 your life experience. And so, it wants to grab on to anything it can, any label or sublabel or sub sublabel. And we see this a lot in culture now. It's sort of being foisted upon us to encourage people to become more uniquely identified because the ego likes to feel special. It doesn't just want to be a regular guy without any title or any sort of definition. It's always seeking to define itself by comparison, comparing itself as superior, inferior. So, I like to be just the middle of the road, have an open mind, not too not to think too highly of myself or to not think too lowly of myself, right? to just be a fellow earth walker with my brothers and sisters and and not get too
17:48 attached to any particular beliefs or ideas and always be willing to to let them go if they're no longer serving me >> because all that um creates further and deeper separation as well. Um because anyone that thinks differently than you or uses a different title than you or goes about things differently, there can be a much higher tendency then to do that us verse you thing rather than we and oneness thing. It's just like oh that's different. And then that creates a higher propensity to then also want to say that that different thing is the is the thing that's wrong. >> Yeah. So it's just like another layer after layer after layer after layer of
18:34 more and more separation. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And and clinging to those ideas and beliefs that push me further into separation tend to only create more of what they're trying to solve. It's like I'm trying to feel empowered by standing on my soap box and this is the way it is. But actually um it's disempowering because of the division that it causes. >> Mhm. Cool. >> I I guess I could say like I >> I said cool. >> I I I I enjoy being curious much more than I enjoy being certain. >> That's a good way to to button that one up. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just so fun to learn. And part of learning is letting
19:20 go of things that you know proving themselves to be less true. >> It's also the whole reason we're all excited to be here too. A lot of people get amnesia around that particular point, but uh we come here real excited to have another earth experience to there's just there's so much to look at and feel and smell and taste and learn and that amnesia layer, you know, creates the perfect um environment for us to kind of stumble around and figure stuff out again. So yeah, I think being curious and have a genuine excitement about being human and learning is
20:05 good to remember. >> Yeah, it keeps life vital and interesting. >> You know, being willing to change your mind just is is a lever for growth and evolution. It's difficult for me to be around people that are very serious and really attached to their righteousness and locked in positionalities >> about, you know, knowing the way it is. I was doing a podcast the other day as a guest and >> the host said something to the effect of, >> um, I really enjoy the way you frame your ideas because you're not you're not claiming that's the way it is. Yeah. >> You're just claiming that that's how you see it, right? [laughter] It's like, you know, many things >> non-dogmatic. >> Yeah. Many things in life are subjective. You know, two people can look at the same painting and see
20:51 something completely different. That doesn't mean that the objective truth and reality of what that painting is isn't there. But everything we experience in life is experienced through perception, through our senses. And we all have different perception and different senses. So, how can you really know your way is the right way? >> Yeah. I also feel it's very disempowering to the other person that you're trying to preach or bark that that way of looking things at things too. You know, because you don't maybe don't know the the state of mind that person is in or where they're at in life or how fragile or vulnerable they they are or how much they're seeking knowledge. And so they
21:37 haven't, you know, refined or fine-tuned the trust within themselves to go about from their own intuition. And so, yeah, I I I um it's interesting. Um when when certain manners of of thought are presented as this is the way, I I think it can be very disempowering to the person that they're trying to teach that to. >> Yeah. It's one of the um side effects of coachitis. >> It's top three side effects. >> Offer offering unsolicited advice, you know. >> Oh god, please make it stop. [laughter] Please. >> Yeah. But sometimes it I find that if if you don't offer advice when someone
22:24 presents you with a problem that they um at times feel like you don't care or you're not invested in finding a solution. Um, so I always ask, "Hey, would you like my point of view?" I mean, I ask you this all the time when you're sharing things that you're going through in life and you want to get something off your chest. I know to just compassionately listen and let you start to sort out uh what you're going through on your own and then only at the point where you're like, "Well, what do you think?" I'm going to share. You know, I'm not going to um give unsolicited advice, but that doesn't mean I don't care. you know, if I see someone going through something, I'll check in on them and say, "Hey, are you okay?" But I'm not going to start barking orders at them and telling them what to do. I think that's because I was brought into my spiritual path through
23:11 recovery. And in addiction recovery, um, it's pretty widely known that trying to bark orders at someone from a self-righteous perspective is very ineffective because all you're going to do is just bounce off their ego. >> Yeah. So to get through someone's ego, you have to have an invitation and consent from the more wise, truer version of of that person right? >> Rather than trying to break through their armor, it's like, who has time for that? >> As soon as you're willing to put your armor down and you ask for help, I'll do whatever I can. You know, that kind of thing. All right. Most of us know we should be eating more nutrient-dense plants, but getting enough of them in your diet to
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25:28 latest now? >> Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to do that earlier today because um sometimes it gets toward the end and then I forget and then we end up sitting here for much too long. So, for those that haven't heard the uh AMA episodes that I do with Allison, um you know, brands send me stuff all the time. And uh it's part of my hobby and career to check out new things in the wellness space and see what works and what doesn't. And when I'm intrigued by something, I like to share about it. So, and this is a big week. There's been it's been a lot of lot of development since we recorded our last one. So, I will uh go into my little treat bag here. >> While you're going into your treat bag, I will give a listener uh note. If I
26:17 seem, sound, feel, weird, off today. I'm dealing with a wave of the cedar fever that comes wafting through the Austin, Texas area a number of times a year, which creates some brain fog in me and um getting very sweaty. It like legit produces it like cedar fever is a is an accurate title for it. Um and that's why I don't like to have my dogs out during episodes. I think it's like I feel like it's really gross when I see other people's feet on shows, but I would be pouring sweat due to the cedar fever if I didn't have if I had these thick socks on. I have so See, I have socks. I brought them to wear, but I would be too hot. So, >> I mean, to be fair, you have very pretty feet.
27:02 >> Thanks. Well, no foot fetish people. I already have there's already a thing online that says like my It's like a foot page for me from when I used to host that the television show. >> Oh, man. Yeah, that's like a foot Wikipedia. It's like a Fipedia thing and there's like a listing for my feet there. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Your feet are famous. >> I I mean I don't know how many people look at them. >> That is one fetish I've never understood, you know. >> Yeah, I don't like feet. >> Different strokes for different folks. >> I like baby toes and baby feet, but not adult ones. >> Yeah, I'd have to agree. >> So, anyways, apologies in advance for having my dogs out today. >> Okay, honey. Whatever. >> Those are my notes. Whatever disclaimer you need to share, I'm I'm here for it. Uh so the first thing is this company, Kaizen,
27:49 and uh they sent me this instant coffee blend. >> So good. >> Yeah. And I don't, you know, this is like the instant coffee space and medicinal mushrooms and stuff. I feel like it's so played out. It's not something I pay that much attention to, but you know, they sent it to me and it was free, so I thought, okay, I'll try it. And this stuff is freaking amazing. Uh, it's got seaoss, cacao, cortiseps, chaga, lion's mang, lion's mane, tla, which is another mushroom, alpha gpc, ginoba, and eltheanine. >> I have to cosign on it, too. And I'm very I'm a beverage gal. I am very, very, very picky. >> You're a heavy drinker. You're into the beverages >> of healthy beverages. I do not. I haven't drank alcohol in years and years and years. >> I don't think I've ever seen you take a sip of alcohol. I I think maybe I don't
28:36 know like maybe in Mexico I took one sip of champagne or something. I I've probably had less than three sips of alcohol in the last 15 years, something like that. I I just it just phased out. I'm not like a quote unquote sober person, but alcohol just phased out naturally a long time ago. But so yeah, when he Yes, I love other types of beverages. And what does it say on that bag? like the world's best the perfect cup of coffee. And >> I have to say I'm not I'm not disagreeing. It's amazing. >> It's very tasty. >> A little bit of creamer and some ice. Like >> ice it up. I actually have it right here in my mug. >> Oh, you're drinking some now? Yeah. >> I'm jealous. I should have made myself
29:21 one. >> It is very >> coffee for me though. And despite, you know, this being an incredible um version of coffee, I have to be kind of mindful about caffeine. If I'm if I'm already super energized and well slept and feeling quite awake and I add caffeine, well, coffee more so, uh, on the top of that, it can make me a little sketched out. But this one, I think because of the mushrooms and the other nutrients and stuff that they infused it with, I don't feel as cracked out as I would from just drinking a regular black coffee. >> It's more grounding. And I'm highly sensitive to caffeine, especially coffee, as well. So, the first time I tried some, I kept asking or remember how many milligrams of caffeine is in it because I I didn't think I wanted to do a full scooper. Um, so I went like half
30:07 scoop the first time and yeah, I still felt grounded. So, that's the reason why I have kept enjoying it. Um, because I I don't do coffee much, but I'm enjoying this one. >> Yeah, it's yummy. So, well played, Kaizen. And then they also have a electrolyte mix with sea moss and torine which is an amino acid >> also very good. >> Yeah. And these are great and also just don't have a lot of the other garbage that a lot of these little you know electrolyte pouches have. It's a very clean and also like their coffee super tasty. You throw some of this in cold water with ice and it's like an amazing kind of habiscus tea sort of flavor. Um so big fan of this. I'm really appreciate that they did it right. Uh so many
30:54 people just kind of jump on the bandwagon and put out products just to make money and their products end up being, you know, inferior based on my high standards. >> Okay, this one, >> well, they have unique formula. You can tell >> they do. This one is super cool. So, for those watching the video again on Spotify or YouTube, this is called Memory Air. And you put this little box uh on your nightstand. I keep it a little far away cuz I don't want any electric fields near me at night obviously. Um, and then you open up the little door and it has this uh belt and inside the belt are a number of different essential oils. And so during the night it acts as a periodic automated diffuser. And yeah, when I first found out about
31:40 it, I was like, memory air? Why is it called memory air? Like I could just have a diffuser and use essential oils. But uh we're going to do a podcast with the inventor of this with this um PhD um college professor who is one of the world's foremost experts in your olfactory system >> and I listened to a podcast um before I booked him just to learn more about this and I was like holy [ __ ] smell is like a really really big deal. I >> I think it's our most powerful or sensitive uh sense that we have. >> Yes. I mean, it can transport you. I I love having experiences like that where I'll just be walking through a random place and for whatever reason, like the scent that is there in that room or that
32:28 somebody left as they walk through, it like will transport me to a memory when I was six years old on the swing set or something. It's like the power of smell is um very very deep and ancient. >> Same. And when I listened to this podcast, um, I thought about all your sprays. You know, you always [laughter] >> I stay steady. >> They're really not they're really nice and pleasant, but I never thought about it in terms of brain health. So there there is a massive correlation between uh cognitive decline and Alzheimer's and things like that because as you get older, your sense of smell is diminished just through the process of aging. So, memory error, I've got some notes on it. Targets the brain's memory and emotional centers through the olfactory system. Cycles through 40 scientifically
33:13 selected scent stimuli to support brain health, which is what that little belt is. Oh, the other thing that's cool, too, is you you open it up and you hit the button whenever you go to bed and then it just remembers your bedtime every night and then every night it goes on at that particular time. Uh, delivers passive brain training while you sleep. No daytime exercises required. And this is where it gets wild. Research found a 226 improvement on a memory test with nightly olfactory enrichment. >> Wow. >> Supports both next day mental sharpness and long-term cognitive health. >> Well, they need to send a second one so that we have them in everybody. >> So, you have one on your side, too. >> It's mine. >> Yeah. >> So, that's the memory air. And for
33:58 people that are intrigued by that like I am, as I said, I'll be doing a show with the uh inventor soon and we can learn more about how it works. But I'm into it. Then the next one is Tuco and this is a nattokynese formula for cardiovascular health. And um this is an enzyme that comes from natto beans, the fermented soybeans. Oh, I I am very familiar. [laughter] The stringy, gooey beans. >> Yeah, they're uh they're they can be a little tough. Uh I like the taste of natto. Uh but it is very smelly. It smells like 4,000 rotten feet that just walked into your house. Um but the thing is with uh the natto kynise is that
34:46 normally it comes in capsules and you have to take quite a lot of it to get the effective dose. And you know, even after all these years, I'm not really that excited about taking 40 capsules of something. So, these come in a little pouch and delivers 10,800 FUS FU uh per serving. And it also has the vitamin K2. And so, the way this particular enzyme works is it gets into your arteries and it gobbles up fibbrin and plaque, which is why it's so renowned for heart health. And I've realized lately uh as we just um you know shared earlier to celebrate my birthday, I'm turning 56 and I just I think of like heart issues as something you get when you're 80. Um but the reality is especially men uh tend to get
35:34 heart issues much younger. And so this tooku flow is super easy to take and that is a massive dose and it's not dry. >> It's a lot of FUS. It's a lot of FUS and uh interestingly it's uh created from fermented chickpea instead of fermented soy. So >> if people are concerned about soy allergies or growing man boobs from uh too much estrogen in your soy >> soy boy >> if you don't want to be a soy boy these guys have you covered. Uh let me see if there's any other factoids about that that might be worth mentioning. Uh, >> chickpeas have some good protein, too. >> There you go. Oh, actually, yeah. So, I I pretty much nailed it. Um, cuz I've
36:21 been using I've been using variations of this product for a long time, so I'm basically familiar with what it does. But, uh, these guys say studies show a 39% reduction in in, uh, corateed artery plaque size plus improvements in corateed artery thickness, total cholesterol, and triglyceride. So, this is very much a heart formula. >> Sounds pretty important. >> Yeah, you want to gobble up the fibbrin and all of that plaque that builds up in your in your arteries. Super super important thing to do. >> And also K2 is is a really big part of that. So, it's smart that they put that in there. >> And then the next one, wait, where is it?
37:07 It's like Christmas. So, I love doing this part of the show. So, the next one is called uh I don't know how if you pronounce it chi, it's QI QI 601 by Quorum Innovations. And this is a biofilm shield >> specifically designed for microplastics. >> Oh, >> yeah. So, you know, I'm sure a lot of the male listeners have seen the memes about your testes being full of microplastics and so on, but microplastics are, you know, a huge problem and they're very difficult to avoid even if you live in a very holistic house and have a holistic lifestyle. Just everything is made of freaking plastic. So, uh, Qi 601 is a non-living probiotic derived material
37:53 that acts like a microlastic catcher mitt for plastics in your gut. H >> so selectively binds micro and nanoplastics in the gut helping them uh helping prevent them from attaching to intestinal cells. M >> and so these guys have created a patented formula and laboratory testing reports trapping of up to 98% of microplastics and nanoplastic and they received two DARPA awards to develop microbiome derived protective barriers against chemical and biological threats. So that one's pretty exciting to me. Is that something that you do almost like like a cleanse or it's like a daily? >> No, I think it's just a daily. It says
38:39 serving one capsule. I haven't started taking it yet because I wanted to read the instructions and try to do it right and not just cowboy it like I usually do. But uh yeah. Oh, yeah. Suggested use take one capsule daily. But it's mine, >> honey. >> Don't you get into my cabinet. >> So, that one that one's cool and and innovative. I think that's, you know, a viable solution. And then also got uh something from a company called Wonderfield and this is activated NMN. So this is a precursor to NAD. So it's got uh nicotinomide. It's got riveratrol res. That's the hardest word to say. Resveratrol. I've never been able to say that word right. >> Olive extract and ergoanine.
39:29 erggoenine, which I don't know what that is, but um you know, there's one way to approach NAD, and that's to take NAD. Um but it's pretty expensive. And I don't know, I always kind of am on the fence of whether or not putting something in your body that your body is designed to produce itself. I don't know that I don't take NAD every day, right? I take it when I'm flying and, you know, in cases when I'm like extremely smoked and I need that boost. So, I am just intuitively a fan of giving your body the precursors it needs to build said thing. And in this case, what we're building is NAD. So, you're helping the body >> produce NAD and NAD is what makes your energy. That's what gives you vitality. So, um, you know, if you want to produce
40:15 ATP and be able to function, you definitely want your NAD levels to, uh, remain as high as they can, especially as you get older because, uh, it starts to decline just like so many things, including your sense of smell. >> That's the good news and the bad news. Okay, the next one I'm really excited about and I was thinking about this and you I mean you know cuz you live here but there's >> I live here. >> You live here. You live here in this space. I mean there are rooms in our house that are that are like overflowing with technology. All these different bioacking things, saunas, red light, biochar, PMF stuff. I mean it's just fun. I like having all these healing tools um you know at hand. But the other day I was thinking about, you know, what
41:02 which one of those has impacted my life and my health the most. >> I know what you're going to say. >> You probably think sauna or ice bath. >> No, I mean partly because I see it sitting here, but I think it would have been I think I might have guessed it because I know how into sleep you are. >> Yes. >> So the chili pad. >> The chili pad. Um, and I I just have never thought about it in that way. But when I started using the Chilipad, you know, version 1.0 back in the day, maybe 10 years ago or something, um, you know, it was a little more crude of a device, but in essence, you have a, you know, a motherboard, kind of a control unit, and you fill it with distilled water and then plug it in, and it has a hose that runs to a pad that goes under your
41:48 fitted sheet and gives you the ability to temperature control your bed. And when I first got one and started using it, my sleep just improved so dramatically that it caused me to realize that most of the sleep issues I've had my entire life, which used to be quite uh profound and troublesome, were just because I was overheating. I'm just a hot sleeper, as you well know. And it was like just the most massive life upgrade and discovery for me to just be able to keep the bed cool. and they've had a few iterations over the past few years and I think at one point they they were acquired or something and so there's a change of ownership and they kind of went off the radar and I was like oh damn what am I going to do cuz no one else makes this thing. I mean
42:34 there's mattresses that are cooling and stuff but as far as I know they all have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and you're frying yourself with EMF all night which kind of defeats the purpose of healthy restorative sleep. So, um I'm going to grab this thing in a minute, but they have the Chili Pad 2.0 now, which is just so much more effective than the ones they had in the past. A because it's much quieter. Um you know, ours we had to well, I decided to put it in the closet and run a long water hose, you know, to the pad and because it kind of would make this sound. Uh this thing is quiet enough where we can just be in the room. Another feature that's super cool is it has airplane mode, so you can disable all of the connectivity, so
43:19 you're not blasting yourself with EMF. And it also has an app where you can go and uh actually set a temperature schedule. So, one of the cool features that I like is having it set to warm up in the morning cuz I don't like waking up cold. I just like going to bed cold. So, it's pretty cool in the way that the algorithm of the app works. It knows what temperature variations are needed for the different stages of sleep at night. So, you set it in the app and then you turn on airplane mode and it still keeps that program going. And I did one little upgrade on on the these new units and that is I got a shielded power cable from Shielded Healing. So, that I mean it's far away from the bed anyway, but um you know if if a power
44:04 cable isn't shielded, it's going to produce a pretty massive uh electric field. So now there's even less EMF because of that customization. So I'm going to grab it and I'll show the people >> the super cool new design because it's all black matte and murdered out and it it just looks dope and instead of being like an ugly thing in the corner of your room. >> Okay, so here she is in all her glory. This is the the 2.0 and for those watching on the video you'll be able to see. So there's a little reservoir. You unscrew this guy, you fill it with distilled water. Um, and the purpose of that is just so it doesn't build up, you know, calcium deposits and and mess up the uh the little motors and whatnot. And then they also have a new hose that is insulated and much lighter.
44:50 >> You're hitting Cookie with the >> Sorry, Cookie. >> Sorry, >> cuz as you know, uh, Allison, uh, when we travel for long periods of time, >> I ship the chili pad to wherever we're staying. >> Yes, he does. Um, so the new pad is insulated with like a um >> wet suit kind of material. So it's like super light. The other ones were quite heavy. >> Oh yeah. >> And as I said, it's much quieter and maybe even the coolest thing about it is that it also makes hot water, too. So you can have your bed be super warm in the winter. So, the advantages for me have not only been just quality of sleep, which of course I've been tracking for years and can tell when it gets better or worse, but another cool feature is that you can have, say you have a king
45:37 bed that you share with a partner. There's two divided pads that are one unified pad on top, but each one of them have their own control unit. So if Allison doesn't want to sleep freezing, I can I or she can program hers to be warmer throughout the night. So there goes all of the conflict about about temperature. If you're in a male female relationship, I'm sure you've experienced situations in which one of said partners prefers a different temperature. In my experience, typically I want to be colder than a female does. So that solves that. And another cool thing about it is you don't have to run your AC or heat all night. Like we have a pretty goodiz house and it doesn't really make sense to waste that much electricity and spend that much money on
46:24 electricity to cool the entire house or heat the entire house when all you really care about is the bed. >> Mhm. Um, another thing they added is a little bedside uh remote so that you can actually there there are times like I forgot to turn the AC up and it's still super cold and then the chili pad gets cold and I wake up freezing so all I have to do is reach over and just go bang just dial it up or down a little bit. >> They've stepped up their um aesthetics a bit. >> Yeah. >> Like this is like the matte black version. >> That's what I'm saying. I mean, like we we've always had ours in the closet just because I don't want to hear it, but this one's quiet enough to have it out in the room. And I >> This is more Luke story style. >> I don't mind having it out in the room. It doesn't look like a weird ugly white,
47:11 you know, piece of machinery. So, um, so kudos to Chiliat. I'm so glad they, you know, reinvented themselves and came back because I've gone through a few of their units just from using them for years every single night and traveling with them and bumping them around and stuff like that. So, I was truly kind of freaking out when their site was on hold for a minute there. I was like, "Uhoh." >> Because they had patented this, so someone else can't just copy it and put it out. And I was like, "Uh, I really hope someone takes over this company and keeps going because I need one." >> So, yeah, I'm super stoked about that. And >> I think that's it for show and tell. >> A solid >> It was an eventful day today. >> Yes. >> Happy birthday to me. >> All right. There you go. Yeah, those are
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50:18 Love how you asked it, Jo. >> Great question for which I'm not sure I have uh >> any answers. [laughter] >> I have some answers. Maybe not. >> I think I have a good answer. >> I can't wait to hear that. Uh I don't think I have the answer. Um but it's funny that they mentioned, you know, going to a plant medicine retreat. I've had so many situations in ceremony where by the end of it I'm convinced I'm supposed to get trained as a facilitator, >> right? I'm supposed to serve medicine. >> Yeah. I mean, I say about half the time I've worked with psychedelics, I walk out of it going, "Oh, this is my dharma. I need to be doing this." you know, just because I've had such transformative experiences >> and because I just love that, you know, the space in a in a tightly held clean
51:04 container uh in >> super clean >> in the context of medicine. I mean, it just is a rarified field and I really enjoy that field. >> Uh so far, God has not tapped me to follow up on any of those inclinations. But I think in my experience, how I've come closer to my dharma is by honestly evaluating what it is that I'm doing professionally or how I'm spending my time and energy, where where my life force is directed and >> the following your highest excitement kind of thing. Well, I'm getting there, but I think for me, just being honest with myself that whatever I'm doing is not my dharma and is not fulfilling me in ways that that I would prefer. So, >> I see >> I think back on my my very long career
51:51 in fashion working in the entertainment industry and um >> I I never really had a sense of purpose or an excess of passion for that. I enjoyed it. It was creative. I got to work with some incredible artists and it it had a lot of variety. It was always um different, right? And I'm someone that just enjoys novelty, especially in my in my work. And so that was something I did for, you know, almost 15 years. And then at a certain point, the lack of deeper fulfillment started to become obvious. And so it wasn't that I knew what my dharmic path was or what my life mission or purpose was. It's just that I started to see that what I
52:37 was doing wasn't. And that created the space for me to get curious about what was. And in 2016 when I started this podcast at that point from the minute I started doing it, it felt much more aligned, right? Because I'm, you know, I'm sharing and I'm being of service and I'm continuing to learn and grow. and I just was availed the opportunity to spend time with so many incredible people as I still am and as I'm doing here today. So if you asked me um you know five years ago I would say oh I found my dharma it's you know it's doing podcasts and public speaking and things like that and uh and now having spent the past few years uh writing my book a horse named lonesome which is available
53:23 now at a horsenamed lonesome.com uh I'm getting more curious about what my dharma is going to look like. So I think in my own experience there's a couple ingredients. one is identifying that what I'm doing is not it which is the first step in discovering what it is but there's also been um an evolutionary process where I'm on my dharmic path and I feel quite certain about that because of the fulfillment and just the create creative juice and just life force you know I'm the passion I guess you could say right I was never passionate about um about fashion at all I just kind of had to like fake it, [laughter] you know, I had to like force the passion to educate myself and be interested in that
54:10 industry. Um, but it wasn't really, it wasn't my calling. Um, sitting here today, I don't know that just doing a podcast for the next 10 years is going to fulfill those needs and really inspire me in that way. I'm still having fun doing it, but there are other things that I want to do. So I think um sitting here today I'm realizing that you know the dharmic path for me is um is fluid. It it changes with time and I unfortunately am someone who has a habit of kind of getting stuck in doing something because I don't like big upheavalss in my life. So in terms of my um the various careers I've had and businesses I've owned and things like that, I tend to do things longer than my passion supports. And so I'm,
54:57 you know, to to speak to this question from this person who sounds like they're going, man, what am I supposed to do with my life? That happens for me every few years. And there's usually um somewhat of a substantial pivot to where I I have to put myself out there in a way that is that feels a bit vulnerable and risky and lacks certainty. And um being a first-time author would be a great example of that. It's like doing something I don't know how to do and just learning as I go and then just being open to where that might take me and where where I feel that sense of charm pulling me in one direction or the other. And usually for me it has to do with dismantling self-imposed limitations
55:43 >> around what I think I'm capable of. And I think a lot of people probably know what their dharma is based on their their heart's desire and their passion. But you have to reconcile with the um the inner critic and the resistance to moving forward with something that is stepping into the unknown or stepping into the public eye or risking loss if it involves a financial investment or something like that. It's like no quantum shift in life comes without some degree of risk, you know, >> right? So I'm not saying >> so that's kind of where where I am with it now. >> I'm not saying this is uh applying to Joe Buu necessarily. Um, but there could be some unconscious subconscious blocking going on impeding them because
56:30 I do agree that aligning with one's calling can go through many different refinement periods. Uh, mine certainly has. And I was reflecting this week um on something that I have found to be absolutely paramount. not only for aligning with and in a devoted way living my calling, but also I attribute it to um me being able to truly tap into positive life force and a
57:16 zest for life and a joy for living and a profound gratitude for being able to be human and being able to be on Earth and and that is uh the ability to um be [clears throat] humble and to have humility and to allow yourself to truly I'm not saying like oh be the phoenix rising. I am saying to have the capacity for and willingness to completely dissolve into nothingness and to allow your ego to dissolve and to allow all previous former titles and roles to completely dissolve. And for me, I have gone through that
58:03 cryalis process u more than once in life. But the one that happened within the last five, [snorts] four or five years, by far my most profound, I mean, I was a complete dissolved, liquefied goo that truly was like being saturated into mother earth's soil. Like I was allowed myself to so completely so far down be brought back down to earth that I let everything all the constructs all that I thought I knew about myself. All that I
58:49 thought I knew about my life. All that I thought I knew about my career and my calling. I truly whatever facet and category of life I brought all of them with me and I dissolved all components and parts into liquefied death of sorts. Um and I don't want to say you know you know it was the prettiest experience. It was also quite a bit longer than what I my my ego or different parts of me would have chosen or wanted. And um I am so grateful. I am so grateful that I let myself
59:37 get so humbled and to have so much humility that I was willing to let all of it fully dissolve because what I am being born into and expanding into and rising into are the most elated joys I've experienced this life. maybe maybe other lives. The the widest gratitude I've ever felt. Um, I mean, my life force, I'm back online and I really feel clear that I wouldn't have arrived to where I am at and to have the clear vision of
1:00:23 the new offerings and the new trajectory that I'm going on had I not gone through that full complete dissolving. So, um, that's my big answer. My more specific answer that lives within that is if that process that I'm speaking to interests you. I know I really sold it. Yeah. Sounds like a great time. Um but through the new offerings and the new pathway that have emerged from me going through that, there are now various practices um and a transmission that I have received um specifically through a dear friend
1:01:10 and colleague and teacher um Paige Britt. This transmission and these transmission trainings that I've gone through have allowed my already existing God-given gifts to go to, you know, exponentially deeper, higher, more expanded levels. And so um I now work with people in my brand called the field reveal where we shift into the field together and we enter into the medicine space with no medicine and we just go on a fantastical voyage that is truly sourced through the other person's own
1:01:55 wisdom that has been living within them but most likely has been dormant or perhaps distorted in some way. But it those uh those pathways that gets the gets the juice flowing again and um the clarity and illumination and coherence that enters in through um these these practices that I now offer. I I for many years was offering you know seership sessions um working as you know on the shamanic path and oracle path and being a seer is one of my main gifts but now it's that woven in with the personal
1:02:42 dissolving that I went through the true resurrection and rebirth I experienced the receiving of this transmission and some of these new methodologies And um it's by far the most excited I've ever been about my calling and my work. And I was very clear that through the field reveal along with working with singles who are ready to find their life partner. I have a love audit field reveal that's specifically for those folks. But I knew that I would be working with people who specifically want to find their purpose and align with their dharma and their calling. So, if this is resonating with you, you can find me on Instagram at I am Allison Charles and just send me a message there and be like, I'm Joe Buu and I will know who you are and we can discuss um going
1:03:30 through this practice together. >> Beautiful. It's been so fun to watch you go into your cave for the season of renewal and to now emerge. What comes to mind for me as a metaphor is a garden. It's like you have a garden that is fertile and producing, but it's not producing the kind of nutrition and flavor that you're really looking for. And sometimes you have to pull everything out of the garden, make some compost, till the soil, add that compost back in, and something new and more vital grows. And that's kind of what I see in what you're doing because it's not like you had to abandon your gifts or the progress that you'd made. It's more of a
1:04:17 reorientation and taking bits and pieces that are >> more closely aligned with who you've evolved into, which is really cool. I think sometimes people think they need to completely nuke their >> prior career or something. And even when I started my podcast, I mean, I left the fashion industry, but I took with me my >> experience of just video production, sound production, just being on set, just absolutely graphic design, brand identity, some of those things that I had learned, >> uh, content marketing and and whatnot. So, um it was one of the ways I early on I was able to differentiate myself because there were far fewer podcasts then and um definitely far fewer with like a higher production value and just a kind of a visual identity and a visual presence. And so I was able to, you
1:05:03 know, make a little bit faster progress because I did bring some of what I'd learned from a completely unrelated industry into this. And seems that you're doing a bit of that, too. >> Oh, yeah. Huge. It's way more than a bit. I I've literally sat with these different hugely vastly important parts to myself that you know were so brave and so courageous and and have been so powerful and have been main components and aspects of me that have allowed me to forge the path that I have forged and birth animal power book and deck and do all so many incredible things on the path um that I feel really good about and being of service with. So I truly sat a number of times um with these
1:05:49 different parts and made sure that they knew they are included and they are coming with me and arriving with me. I am they are not being separated from my new era and my new path moving forward. Like I spoke to them and I was just like thank you. I'm so proud of you. Like absolutely you're coming with me. We we are in this together. We are one. I you know I'm not separating from you the path and maybe the titles and the branding and the website like things might look new revitalized fresh and different but we are still in this together and we are moving forward as as whole and as one and that was a really important part to my my process and the
1:06:38 last thing I'll say is uh there are clue huge clues not just breadcrumbs but like huge puzzle piece clues that in hindsight you realize were there all along or you know left along the way because even upon entry when I had my divine intervention and spiritual awakening day um and my cla audient gift and so many of my other gifts got turned on you know instantaneously and in the immediate months after that divine intervention day I was given vision visions and such clear messages um as to who I really am, why I'm really here, and the pathway forward. Um so once the shamanic path
1:07:25 reopened inside of me, my light body, and I remembered, it was like the light switch got turned back on. I was like, "Oh my gosh, I remember who I am, and and this is why I'm here and the work I'm to do." But even though it was the shamanic path that opened and that I fully surrendered to and devoted myself to in accordance with pure love God and sacred earth mother and all parts of me of course and some Jesus and Mary, a lot of Jesus and Mary too. Um but I was on that path for many many years without ever being called into working with plant medicine, you know, and I and I was very devoted to it and and out guiding um other types of shamanic journeys and um through
1:08:12 utilizing the drum and and other ways. So I just I think it's so beautiful and I'm fascinated by but not surprised at all that through you know almost a couple decades now of being devoted to that path and the work that I've now arrived to a place where I've been able to go to the next level of being in the field with people and and in that medicine field with no medicine. It's not a surprise to me because while I do revere the medicines that I have sat with and oh my gosh like you know sacred grandfather medicine peyote played a huge part in you and I coming together and becoming a couple like the stories are countless and I
1:09:00 deepest deepest bow and deepest bow of respect um to the plant medicine intelligence and wisdom and love um and I wouldn't change a second of it and I'm sure I will sit and probably work with medicine again. Um, but it just my path didn't start there and it's not where I'm at right now. And I'm not surprised. You see what I'm saying? So, it's like >> that's how it began for me. I was I was doing that this work for a long time before ever sitting with any of the the medicines. >> And now one of my specialties is being with people in the medicine field. No medicine. Not a shocker, you know. >> Yeah, it makes perfect sense. So sometimes you can if you sit in meditation long enough like you can kind
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